BluPanther Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I know what I saw. And please don't expect me to take seriously any post that said they didn't bother watching because the racing is supposed to be poor or those that said they turned off halfway thru. Those opinions are completely irrelevant. Feel free to tell me there was no passing or close racing because you will be lying. TBH Brum i thought it was garbage, and i painfully watched all 15 heats... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bump Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Well I parted with my tenner and stood by the 4th bend watching the whole thing. Whilst the first 8 or so heats were pretty dull, the latter half of the meeting was decent enough. Riders much closer, a reasonable amount of overtaking. Not fab but ok. Guess we all see things differently though. Having said that watched Sunday's Torun v Zielona Gora last night, great track, top riders on each side, sod all overtaking, very dull meeting. So perhaps its not just Leicester after all... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 TBH Brum i thought it was garbage, and i painfully watched all 15 heats... We all think different. Enough close racing to keep me entertained. Maybe I've just been starved of EL action! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted April 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 We all think different. Enough close racing to keep me entertained. Maybe I've just been starved of EL action! No offence but maybe you are happily pleased by any track action which is like most hardcore fans. Long term just hardcore fans won't keep the sport alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) No offence but maybe you are happily pleased by any track action which is like most hardcore fans. Long term just hardcore fans won't keep the sport alive. I'm not, I like close racing and close battles. I've seen 2 meetings at Birmingham this season that have been bore fests because the opposition has been strung out at the back. People going to support the sport and local team keep the sport alive. What doesn't is people not going to watch their local team because they don't like the shape of the track or those who stay away because of the politics of the sport. That helps no one. Edited April 19, 2016 by stevebrum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I'd love to know what the BSPA/Go-Speed contract with Sky actually states?! Its not as if Sky even attempt to cover every EL meeting - let alone screen each one LIVE!!! It can't have total exclusivity otherwise other TV outlets wouldn't be able to feature any speedway on their local news/sports programmes, which means that each promotion must be allowed to 'give permission'!! The rights to show footage in news is likely bought from Sky since that is how it usually works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I'm still waiting to hear the outcome of their "in depth look" into social media . I won't hold my breath though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 The rights to show footage in news is likely bought from Sky since that is how it usually works. In my day, which was a very long time ago now, there was a system of 'news access' that gave other broadcasters the right to show short clips of sports action. No doubt today that has to be paid for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 If other (terrestrial?) broadcasters are prepared to pay Sky for small snippets of speedway, they must think it provides some decent value and interest for their viewers, otherwise they simply wouldn't include it in their bulletins?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) If other (terrestrial?) broadcasters are prepared to pay Sky for small snippets of speedway, they must think it provides some decent value and interest for their viewers, otherwise they simply wouldn't include it in their bulletins?! I can't speak for ITV, having had no involvement in that area, unlike the BBC. At Nations and Regions level in the latter I found that an appreciation of the sport differed widely regionally and often was down to the personal views of the relevant heads of sport. I once had a discussion with the head of sport at Nations and Regions, the guy in overall charge of sport on the regional TV shows and local radio. He was very open to speedway being covered, a refreshing contrast to the attitide at national level. Clearly with Poole's success BBC South and BBC Radio Solent are keen to include reports while my own local BBC region, West will give coverage if Swindon or Somerset are in an important meeting. With no BBC footage of actual meetings obviously they have to obtain access rights to footage from Sky. BBC Wiltshire has a strong involvement at Swindon while I believe the same is the case at Poole. Then there is the superb coverage by BBC WM. Equally I'm sure there are many here who will tell you that their region or local radio give no coverage at all. In my past life in the London area the coverage was pitiful, apart from a brief spell in the 70s when Norman de Mesquita was in charge of BBC Radio London sport. I fail to see the point in your posting though. Obviously coverage will be given if the relevant sports editor believes it to be in the interest of his viewers. What other criterion would apply? Is there something we should know? Edited April 20, 2016 by rmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 My point is that streaming of one or two race highlights on social media is no different to the snippets that appear on local/regional news programmes (apart from an obvious difference in quality). I've stated previously that I'm against whole meetings being periscoped, but clubs can be missing a promotional trick with the terms of the Sky deal. Incidentally I am reliably informed that BBC Local TV only need to give Sky a 'caption credit' to use their footage. There is a reciprocal arrangement in place apparently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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