SCB Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 I thought race 15 had to be chosen from the 3 top scorers Top 3 in averages or top 3 scorers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Liecester need to get rid of the two old Poles who are wasting everyones time and money. Bjarne is available and would score a sackload more points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnificentseven Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 It's hard to see Leicester winning regularly with the team they have - and it's equally hard to see where the necessary replacements are going to come from. Â If the Leicester fans get disillusioned and vote with their feet it might be hard for them to see the season out. Â Wolfie Liecester need to get rid of the two old Poles who are wasting everyones time and money. Bjarne is available and would score a sackload more points. Â Bjarne dropped them in it last year - is it really feasible he will feel any different this year? Â Wolfie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Top 3 in averages or top 3 scorers. OH right . but I still can't see why Allen put Ulamek in heat 15 . Liecester need to get rid of the two old Poles who are wasting everyones time and money. Bjarne is available and would score a sackload more points. I before E except after C and in Leicester of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Of course Leicester bear some responsibility but it was the BSPA that set a points limit that is too high for the riders available,that decided to use PL averages for the draft that enabled Poole to sign the strongest reserve pairing and for the flawed heat leader list. Â If Leicester had, as you say, worked it out, some other team would have suffered because there are insufficient riders available. It is the BSPA that has decided there should be a system to equalise team strengths so it is their responsibility to devise a workable system. Â Other than that you make your usual well thought out valid points. Riders available ? sorry I must have missed it but never knew there was a list of riders you could sign...can you put them up for so we can see them ? thou the draft is unfair leics have hardly come out of it badly ..and some would say they have the strongest pairing with Starke and Auty ..they also have a massive advantage of owning there own stadium . Â The rules are the same for everyone and rather than looking for charity and feeling sorry for themselves(the norm in speedway ) how about they start running the club better ? ...if I was you I would stick to being a apologist for your mates at Belle Vue . Â T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Liecester need to get rid of the two old Poles who are wasting everyones time and money. Bjarne is available and would score a sackload more points. He didn't last year , think his real average was about 4. No better than Walasek then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 A good result in the end, Leicester rallied for a couple of heats after their 8-1 and came back at us but just didnt have enough. The racing was much better than my last visit, the track changes seem to have been a positive. It must be frustrating for Lions fans at the moment but a poor side is better than no side at all when you consider the years Leicester was without the sport. Considering how Bjarne Pedersen was dropped before a wheel was turned i think he would be a far better bet than the likes of Walasek, like Paddy he owes Leicester after his last performance there, Hougaard will be fine, the reserves will always do a job, add Pedersen, and thats a better starting point than whats there at the moment. I thought Wozniak would have kicked on this season i saw him a few times last year and he looked real promising. I dont know about averages but the likes of Stead and Summers would defo be better than the poles, hope the Lions can sort something out to strengthen them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 It was a better performance by Leicester up against a very strong Belle Vue side who I am sure will be up at the top end of the table some really nice friendly fans as well which was good. Â I thought Paddy rode well for Leicester but in his own words is not an EL no1 the reserves did their part as expected. With the Poles Wozniak score was a bit inflated due to the double and showed more fight. Ullamek just mostly beat Walasek and lower BV riders. Â I think it will be Walasek that goes but not sure if he will be sacked or will walk out as some fans were saying the riders were not being paid which Is why riding poor I cannot see this personally as their livelihood. If you make changes as has often been said there is very limited options available with many riders not wanting Saturday's and a number of fixture clashes with doubling up riders. Â I see some on here have mentioned Summers for Walasek he would possibly do a bit better but not honestly the answer to turn the team around however will he want regular Sat nights then up to Glasgow the next day and will the Tigers be happy with that too. Â During the winter people mentioned about Simon Stead but am sure when I looked there was 10 or so fixture clashes so that would rule him out. We shall have to see which way the club goes but something has to be done before more fans walk away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 If he wanted to ride over here I would sign Leszno`s Tobias Musielak (ex Wolves) to replace Walasek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 If he wanted to ride over here I would sign Zengi (ex Swindon) to replace Walasek. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 If he wanted to ride over here I would sign Zengi (ex Swindon) to replace Walasek. He does want to ride over here....just reluctant to ride for anybody else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckettlion Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 He does want to ride over here....just reluctant to ride for anybody else  Im sure he'd ride for Coventry or Swindon. But apparently he wants big money... and a saturday track isn't ideal for an ekstraliga rider. I'm sure we'd have tried it before the season started, if it was a no then, I can't see what circumstances would make it a yes now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethelion Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 The form of Walesak is really a mystery, last season at home I think he averaged close to 9 & although missed alot of meetings through injury, he was excellent. But now he doesn't seem interested, maybe he as mechanical issues, but if that was the case you would think the club would say so & ask for patience. If they are going to replace him I hope they go for a younger rider with a bit of fight & ambition rather than another has-been. Someone who as started the season well is Ryan Douglas & i'm sure would at least give 100%, the trouble is how many meetings would he miss. Also signing any Aussies you have the added problem of visas, it could take weeks before one is approved, which is also the case if they wanted to sign Summers. The other option I suppose is the shared D/U role like Lakeside have, in which case you could have Stead & one of Summers/ Douglas, admittedly none of which are world-beaters, but at least would give there all, which is more than we're getting at the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Zengota would be a good option but unfortunately he is already committed to the pairs series and doing the SEC which is mostly on non GP Saturday's when Leicester have all their fixtures. Â I have a feeling it may be a doubling up rider probably Aaron Summers especially as he has been saying wants more racing and now has British residency so no visa required but will depend on fixture clashes with Glasgow and Sweden on Thursdays. The team needs more top end support though Edited April 10, 2016 by flagrag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Riders available ? sorry I must have missed it but never knew there was a list of riders you could sign...can you put them up for so we can see them ? thou the draft is unfair leics have hardly come out of it badly ..and some would say they have the strongest pairing with Starke and Auty ..they also have a massive advantage of owning there own stadium .The rules are the same for everyone and rather than looking for charity and feeling sorry for themselves(the norm in speedway ) how about they start running the club better ? ...if I was you I would stick to being a apologist for your mates at Belle Vue .T I am sorry that you cannot understand what I said. Â It seems from the many many posts on here that it is generally accepted that there is a shortage of suitable riders wanting to ride in the EL. I never mentioned a list, that is a figment of your imagination. Â My point about the reserves was not Leicester specific. Again, most fans seem to agree that the draft system was not equitable or fair because they used PL averages when EL averages were available for virtually everyone. Most agree that wrongly skewed the selection process in favour of Poole. Â Similarly, most seem to agree that the heat leader list is not equitable or fair because some riders are wrongly categorised. Â If you genuinely believe that despite those issues every team had the same opportunities then you are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 If he wanted to ride over here I would sign Leszno`s Tobias Musielak (ex Wolves) to replace Walasek. that's the major problem not many want to race in the UK we are bottom of the things to do list . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I am sorry that you cannot understand what I said. Â It seems from the many many posts on here that it is generally accepted that there is a shortage of suitable riders wanting to ride in the EL. I never mentioned a list, that is a figment of your imagination. Â My point about the reserves was not Leicester specific. Again, most fans seem to agree that the draft system was not equitable or fair because they used PL averages when EL averages were available for virtually everyone. Most agree that wrongly skewed the selection process in favour of Poole. Â Similarly, most seem to agree that the heat leader list is not equitable or fair because some riders are wrongly categorised. Â If you genuinely believe that despite those issues every team had the same opportunities then you are wrong. As I explained the draft system is unfair but as I said leics and others agree to it before the start of the season so who's fault is that ? Â As for the riders being available yet again most won't ride or can't ride at a weekend when the lions choose top ride so yet again who fault is that ? we know Zengota etc are more that willing to ride in the uk so it's guff to say the riders are not out there if you try hard enough your get them . Â Yet again thou the heat list maybe wrong leics all teams had to chance to sign the same riders on those lists but leics yet again because they ride at a weekend it's gave them a limited chance ...so to sum it up most of there problems are of there own doing but as normal in speedway the likes of would rather they blame others and feel sorry for themselves and ask for the charity box to be handed round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 So someone has had the sack then according to Norrie. Doesn't take a genius to work out who. But who will be replacing him? Aaron Summers? YES! Finally one of my random guesses was right. Unlucky Leicester, because Summmers is not more than a 3 point man as a heat leader so makes naff all difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Liecester need to get rid of the two old Poles who are wasting everyones time and money. Bjarne is available and would score a sackload more points. From Bjarne's comment on Twitter when a fan suggested it, I don't think he will be signing for Leicester again after last year. Â Summers sounds like the only change at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckettlion Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 YES! Finally one of my random guesses was right. Unlucky Leicester, because Summmers is not more than a 3 point man as a heat leader so makes naff all difference. 3 points is more than 0 points, so it makes some difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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