Alan_Jones Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Every type of competition has gone over to a one off final, even league championships, whatever you might think of that, there won't be any going back. The 3 levels of British Championship use the traditional format for the semi finals as does the NLRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 The introduction of semi finals and a final in a one off individual meeting is ludicrous. Last night illustrated the fact that the best rider does not always win, and riders knowing the format is irrelevant. I have never been to a meeting operating this ridiculous system and never will, its a joke... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Every type of competition has gone over to a one off final, even league championships, whatever you might think of that, there won't be any going back. We all know that but does not mean to say it is right,suppose it is only done to keep the excitement going a bit longer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nicki Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 We all know that but does not mean to say it is right,suppose it is only done to keep the excitement going a bit longer  Lambert hadn't won the 20 Heat meeting until heat 19 last night, and Adam Ellis hadn't confirmed his place on the rostrum until the last Heat.  The excitement went on long enough to hold my attention and was quite happy to go home after Heat 20. Count-back to decide places after that would've been fine by me, with Lambert 1st, Bates 2nd & Ellis 3rd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Â Lambert hadn't won the 20 Heat meeting until heat 19 last night, and Adam Ellis hadn't confirmed his place on the rostrum until the last Heat. Â The excitement went on long enough to hold my attention and was quite happy to go home after Heat 20. Count-back to decide places after that would've been fine by me, with Lambert 1st, Bates 2nd & Ellis 3rd. Shouldn't that be Ellis 2nd and Bates 3rd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nicki Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Shouldn't that be Ellis 2nd and Bates 3rd? Â Yep, certainly should: Lambert 15, Ellis 13, Bates 11. My points addition is worse than my count-back definition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 No one will remeber who won the u21s anyway. It means nothing about being a top level rider No one will remeber who won the u21s anyway. It means nothing about being a top level rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nicki Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 No one will remeber who won the u21s anyway. It means nothing about being a top level riderNo one will remeber who won the u21s anyway. It means nothing about being a top level rider  Quite a few decent riders on the roll of honour Quite a few decent riders on the roll of honour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Quite a few decent riders on the roll of honour Quite a few decent riders on the roll of honour More poor than good id say winning this competition doesnt mean anything on who will make it as a top level rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godmother Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Peter Collins M. Lee, M.Loram, G.Havelock, Woffinden. Not very memorable are they? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Clouting, Haines, Wilson, Kennett, Bridger ans many more Clouting, Haines, Wilson, Kennett, Bridger ans many more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 No one will remeber who won the u21s anyway. It means nothing about being a top level rider No one will remeber who won the u21s anyway. It means nothing about being a top level rider  Bet Josh Bates will, and it will be in the record books for ever more. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nicki Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Chris Morton, Les & Phil Collins, Kenny Carter, Marvyn Cox, Martin Dugard, Scott Nicholls, Simon Stead all 'half decent' and represented their country. Â Kennett, Bridger & Haines all beat Woffinden to win titles, bet they'll remember that for a long time. Â And bet Robert Lambert will remember who won this year's for some time to come too. Â Nature of an U21 title is that some will progress more than others but, as screm says, it will be in the record books forever with yor name there as a National title winner. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Obviously the real champ is Robert Lambert...One race only counts at the end format,, robs the best rider of the title again The old world final format is the only way to get a fair result in individual competitions.. The B.S.P,A never get any thing right hence the slow death of Speedway in this country.... Â Sorry but i thought it was obviously Josh Bates, sure thats what my programme said, either that or i had the riders in the wrong helmet covers in the final 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 JOSH BATES 2016 UNDER 21 BRITISH CHAMPION.....NUFF SAID! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Â Clean Cut Sports were supposed to have filmed it, but no, no it wasn't. Apparently Sky stopped anyone from filming the live action according to Sheffield management??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hel'n'Back Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Don't see why Sky should have had anything to do with this as obviously they weren't going to show it live on TV anyway? Bloomin April and we've only seen one Sky meeting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) Following on from the British U21 at Sheffield on Thursday, GB's representatives for the World U21 qualifiers (semi-finals) have been announced:  Friday 20 May - Pardubice, Czech Republic: Adam Ellis  Saturday 21 May - Pocking, Germany: Josh Bates  Saturday 21 May - Belle Vue, Manchester: Robert Lambert & Max Clegg (Meeting Reserves: Nathan Greaves & Jack Smith)  Jack Parkinson-Blackburn is ineligible to compete due to his age and Zach Wajtknecht & James Shanes are committed already to international meetings on the semi-final weekend.  http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.30299 Edited April 16, 2016 by macca56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIS002 Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 The semi / final method has been around since before most of the kids in ls night meeting were born. Its how all the big meetings are settled. The riders who know how to rise to the occasion will win the big events in the future and need to learn how to do it now. Josh Bates has won the event twice now and both times apparently he wasn't the best rider. Sorry but history will show he was. Spot on!!!! On the night the young lad won it fair and square. No one will remeber who won the u21s anyway. It means nothing about being a top level rider No one will remeber who won the u21s anyway. It means nothing about being a top level rider Fortunately for Josh and his sponsors the will remember it twice 😜😜🤔 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Speedway riders ought to see every win as something special, we all know why ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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