Trees Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 That is an even bigger sense of madness from the BSPA. Ridiculous Bloody is too, should let the guys learn about picking the best gates, they will have to in all big meetings in the future!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I know I keep saying this but I still cannot agree with this format. How can a rider who goes through the card unbeaten not be champion ? Should not have to race off !!!! That's the format & I personally prefer to see meetings have Semi Finals & Finals otherwise meeting can become an anti climax. Same with league Play-Off's. I much prefer those too. If Lambert made the choice of gate 4 then he threw it away with his unreliable gating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Was the meeting filmed??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Obviously the real champ is Robert Lambert...One race only counts at the end format,, robs the best rider of the title again The old world final format is the only way to get a fair result in individual competitions.. The B.S.P,A never get any thing right hence the slow death of Speedway in this country.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILKO Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 First of all Lambert was the best rider on the night, but picking gate 4 in the final cost him the title. Bates took advantage of this and rode a fantastic race to become champion. But I think the best was last place in the final Jack Parkinson-Blackburn, 4th in the British u21 final at 15 years of age. Let's hope he gets the backing he deserves, he could be as good as Tai. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballinger Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Was the meeting filmed??? Clean Cut Sports were supposed to have filmed it, but no, no it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Obviously the real champ is Robert Lambert...One race only counts at the end format,, robs the best rider of the title again The old world final format is the only way to get a fair result in individual competitions.. The B.S.P,A never get any thing right hence the slow death of Speedway in this country.... That sounds like sour grapes, the riders knew the format and it isn't compulsory to take part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 All the riders know the format at the start of the meeting. That said it's a rubbish format. The semi(s) and final are to keep the fans interested until the end of the meeting, but as long as the racing is a of a good standard then fans will be interested until the end of the 20 heats, when the best rider will top the scorecard. If there's any doubts then there are run-offs. There has to be a balance between what is fair and what makes the fans happy and I suspect there will be more fans that have turned away from last night thinking "the best bloke didn't win," than "I'm glad there were two more races to watch." 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Duppcomic Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 The semi / final method has been around since before most of the kids in ls night meeting were born. Its how all the big meetings are settled. The riders who know how to rise to the occasion will win the big events in the future and need to learn how to do it now. Josh Bates has won the event twice now and both times apparently he wasn't the best rider. Sorry but history will show he was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Clean Cut Sports were supposed to have filmed it, but no, no it wasn't. Ohhhhh shame, would've bought it The semi / final method has been around since before most of the kids in ls night meeting were born. Its how all the big meetings are settled. The riders who know how to rise to the occasion will win the big events in the future and need to learn how to do it now. Josh Bates has won the event twice now and both times apparently he wasn't the best rider. Sorry but history will show he was. Only if he goes onto bigger things or it will be 'whatever happened to ...' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godmother Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 There were 6 race wins from each of the red,white and y/b gate and only 2 from blue gate,not including the semi final and final. The gates seemed fairly even except for blue,so it would seem that Lambert,if he made the choice,was let down by his gating, not the position. However,Lambert was a class above the rest. Bates looks wild and out of control at times and over riding. J P B looked a good prospect for the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Olly Allen won the 2013 PLRC from the outside gate, he had 3rd pick, just wound it on through the smallest of gaps around the outside of 1&2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 There were 6 race wins from each of the red,white and y/b gate and only 2 from blue gate,not including the semi final and final. The gates seemed fairly even except for blue,so it would seem that Lambert,if he made the choice,was let down by his gating, not the position. However,Lambert was a class above the rest. Bates looks wild and out of control at times and over riding. J P B looked a good prospect for the future. No matter how even the gates are you risk being closed out on gate 4 if everyone makes a decent start, in a final that's quite likely. No matter what event it is, all riders including the GP guys pick gates 1 or 2 in the Semi's or Final. It's utter madness to select anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godmother Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Perhaps Lambert was feeling generous and gave Bates the chance he needed and took? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 There were 6 race wins from each of the red,white and y/b gate and only 2 from blue gate,not including the semi final and final. The gates seemed fairly even except for blue,so it would seem that Lambert,if he made the choice,was let down by his gating, not the position. However,Lambert was a class above the rest. Bates looks wild and out of control at times and over riding. J P B looked a good prospect for the future. Bates doesn't look in control most of the time,fair play to him though he won.Maybe he will settle down in time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 The semi / final method has been around since before most of the kids in ls night meeting were born. Its how all the big meetings are settled. The riders who know how to rise to the occasion will win the big events in the future and need to learn how to do it now. Josh Bates has won the event twice now and both times apparently he wasn't the best rider. Sorry but history will show he was. No apparently about it, he's won the final of two meetings where he wasn't top scorer in the heats. History will show it as exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy2706 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 May I say that I also dislike this format, last years NL Pairs threw up the same unjust result? I had hoped that Josh would win, but he wasn't nearly good enough through the heats to beat Robert Lambert. Josh is the fair winner according to the format, but the format is rubbish, unfair and unjust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Why not keep the format the same& the winner is that after the 20 heats,then you could still run a semi-final& the final but for money or some other idea then it keeps everybody happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nicki Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I was quite happy to wait until Heat 19 for the winner of the meeting to be confirmed and for Heat 20, to complete the rostrum places. How good is JPB at 15, by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Why not keep the format the same& the winner is that after the 20 heats,then you could still run a semi-final& the final but for money or some other idea then it keeps everybody happy. Every type of competition has gone over to a one off final, even league championships, whatever you might think of that, there won't be any going back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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