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Thanks for taking the time to do this, excellent research and emphasises what a shame that Friday was rained off . one wee point and I hope you don't think i'm nit picking but since you've gone to so much trouble Danny Ayres hasn't ridden and doesn't ride for eastbourne

Doh, good spot Kent not eastbourne. 2 matches were against eastbourne

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Wolbert had ridden in two individuals in Germany (Ludwigslust 19/3 (15) & Gustrow 26/3 (12)) btw.

 

Overall, result was slightly better than I expected for us, mainly because of Smiler's magnificent performance.

 

Would also give Kevin pass marks, particularly when driving past Lawson in ht 10.

 

After a couple of tentative outings on his UK debut, Jye was on the pace in his last two races, so hopefully will progress further, once he becomes more familiar with the PL.

 

Erik & Ryan were less competitive than I expected and Max did not appear too keen to mix it with the opposition when briefly in front of them.

 

It might take Dan some time before he starts to score points but he is certainly worth persevering with long term.

 

Tigers were well worth their 19 pt win, with Ayres looking a good and entertaining no.7.

 

However I think it's a bit premature to bring the trumpets out yet on the basis of a single home league cup match where Tigers bottom three had an easy time outscoring their Monarchs counterparts 17 - 2.

 

Given the loss of the best opening pairing in the 2015 PL, realistically a middle to lower table finish in the PL, should be our expectation as things stand.

 

Finally plaudits to Glasgow on providing a decent racing strip, despite the heavy rain that had apparently fallen on Saturday and Sunday morning.

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Still confused how Monarchs fans think that was a decent performance! My team got beat at home by Scunthorpe no excuses its worrying for that to happen so a 20 point beating has to be a concern. Unless they make changes Edinburgh won't be in the play offs with that 1-7. Masters won't be dominant every week. As I sayd you replace Cook and Sedgeman and Branford with a has been in Fisher, an untried Aussie in Etheridge and a kid at reserve then you can't expect to be near the top of the league.

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Worried not at all. Only the first match a few boys under performed big deal. we will still be there or there about come end of the season.

Looking at the line up of other PL teams, I think there are a few that look much stronger this year. I think without changes this side will struggle.

 

I think if no injuries then Glasgow have to be one of the favourites this year. Strong throughout.

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I don't understand how people are righting us of after our first match of the season away to what is a good Glasgow side. We had someone who rode his first ever meeting in this country and another riding only his second ever meeting. Don't know what people were expecting.

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Still confused how Monarchs fans think that was a decent performance! My team got beat at home by Scunthorpe no excuses its worrying for that to happen so a 20 point beating has to be a concern. Unless they make changes Edinburgh won't be in the play offs with that 1-7. Masters won't be dominant every week. As I sayd you replace Cook and Sedgeman and Branford with a has been in Fisher, an untried Aussie in Etheridge and a kid at reserve then you can't expect to be near the top of the league.

Masters aside I don't think anyone thinks it was a good performance, even decent is stretching it but there were signs of potential which is what you are after in your first meeting. so no need to hit the panic button and there is a big difference between losing at home to scunny vs losing away to Glasgow.

 

There are lots of twists and turns between now and when the trophies are handed out and they are still potentially only 1 point away at Berwick from qualifying for the lcup semi. It feels unlikely today but stranger things have happened.

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A very solid performance from Glasgow right through from 1 to 7, The long tail mentioned by many during the winter doesn't look too bad although tougher opposition and away matches will give us more of an idea, great atmosphere in the stadium yesterday and Glasgow were well up for it right from the start, special mention to Nike Lunna who was beating Sam Masters with ease in heat one before Jye Etheridge came to grief causing a re run,

Edinburgh will no doubt say they will get better as the season goes on which I'm sure they will, whether that will be enough to challenge the top teams remains to be seen,

 

Glasgow don't have another fixture until they visit Edinburgh a week on Friday where they will no doubt have a large travelling support compared to what must be the smallest support Edinburgh have ever took to Ashfield, a mixture of strained relationships between the clubs or do they only travel in large numbers when they think they have a chance of winning.

 

As I say there will be tougher meetings ahead so we shouldn't get too carried away but a very very promising start from the stripes.

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I don't understand how people are righting us of after our first match of the season away to what is a good Glasgow side. We had someone who rode his first ever meeting in this country and another riding only his second ever meeting. Don't know what people were expecting.

There expecting a team that scores maximums every meeting,i for one would love to see all these "experts" line up and have a go,

dead easy to sit at home watching updates and write a report on riders performances.Support your team be it good or poor none of these riders travel to a meeting wanting to have a bad one...

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Still confused how Monarchs fans think that was a decent performance! My team got beat at home by Scunthorpe no excuses its worrying for that to happen so a 20 point beating has to be a concern. Unless they make changes Edinburgh won't be in the play offs with that 1-7. Masters won't be dominant every week. As I sayd you replace Cook and Sedgeman and Branford with a has been in Fisher, an untried Aussie in Etheridge and a kid at reserve then you can't expect to be near the top of the league.

 

All based on a sample size of 1 as justification for your prediction.

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All based on a sample size of 1 as justification for your prediction.

Oh do you mean im basing it on this 1 meeting or basing it on what i thought when the side was announced??

 

Because if you check back over the threads ive said from day 1 that Edinburgh looked a poor outfit this season.

 

Your loss Cook Sedgeman and Branford and replace them with 3 riders so inferior yet you expect to be top of the league.

 

Dont forget Masters scored what Cook would have done and you still get thrashed.

 

Cook , Sedgeman and Branfords direct replacements scored a Grand Total of 5 points that sums up how difficult your season will be.

 

Even if they improve i cant see them ever scoring more than 18-20 between the 3 and that simply will not be enough to win meetings and dont forget as good a rider as Masters is he wont get 15 plus every week.

 

This isnt a pop at Edinburgh, although any negative word about them the fans are so precious, as i even tipped my side to finish 6th at best. Its called being a realist rather than just think you will win every season.

 

However i do think Fisher is an awful signing he may prove me wrong

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Oh dear. These Moanarchs don't like it now they've been knocked off their pedestal. Welcome to the also rans club lads

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Oh do you mean im basing it on this 1 meeting or basing it on what i thought when the side was announced??

 

Because if you check back over the threads ive said from day 1 that Edinburgh looked a poor outfit this season.

 

Your loss Cook Sedgeman and Branford and replace them with 3 riders so inferior yet you expect to be top of the league.

 

Dont forget Masters scored what Cook would have done and you still get thrashed.

 

Cook , Sedgeman and Branfords direct replacements scored a Grand Total of 5 points that sums up how difficult your season will be.

 

Even if they improve i cant see them ever scoring more than 18-20 between the 3 and that simply will not be enough to win meetings and dont forget as good a rider as Masters is he wont get 15 plus every week.

 

This isnt a pop at Edinburgh, although any negative word about them the fans are so precious, as i even tipped my side to finish 6th at best. Its called being a realist rather than just think you will win every season.

 

However i do think Fisher is an awful signing he may prove me wrong

I don't think we'll win anything this year but I still think we'll make the top 6. I see this year as more of a rebuilding year with us looking to 2017 with guys like Etheridge, Riss, Clegg and Bewley.

 

The last two season have been more than anyone could of asked for and you need to enjoy those moments while we can (you know being extremely smug about everything) as you know they aren't going to last forever.

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I feel the same as Mr. B.

 

Top 6 was always the main aim.

And if the new lads have built up a good head of steam we'll see what happens then.

 

The on edge-ness (?) of the past 2 seasons has worn me out.

 

I'm looking for a more relaxing 2016 to recover.

It should be good just seeing Erik, Jye, Max & Dan improve.

 

Probably Smiler's last season in the PL too so want to enjoy that while we can.

 

 

And I think the insurance cover for all the trophies must be totally crippling!!

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Because if you check back over the threads ive said from day 1 that Edinburgh looked a poor outfit this season.

 

 

To be fair, after their all conquering season in 2014, the 2015 team looked poor on paper. Granted there are a couple of enigmas this year, but there were last year too...and they still won the league again.

 

That said I don't think this season will be as good for them, but I wouldn't write anyone off just yet. :)

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Jeez....maybe we just send all the bling along the M8 to the already crowned tiggers.

 

Of course we are going to be weaker on paper....and on the track, but its too early to be writing us off, before we have raced at home.

The tigers have put together a good team and should be in the top 6 easily if not at the top when the PL fixtures are done, they will be powerful at home, so an Embra loss is not unexpected there......we did not get anything there last LC campaign.

 

Now if we start getting humped at home that would be concerning, and maybe Berwick with dale specialists will be coming at the right time......but for those desperate to see us struggle....it`s just too early yet to crow.

 

You may be right but on the available evidence .......way too premature.....which is a common problem for many.!!!!!!

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If the Tiggers don't win with relative ease, they will be jumping into the Clyde like lemmings.

 

Can Bewley put Ayres in his place? Will Etheridge score a point?

Yes we did , no he didn't , and he didn't either .

Danny has certainly endeared himself to the fans with his celebrations , the sport is sadly lacking characters , so he is a breath of fresh air .

There will be tougher battles for him to come though as Edinburgh's bottom end was woefully weak .

Always nice to humble them , but the final margin of victory should have been greater , but it's not too much of a disaster when a chain goes when you're 20 points ahead . Masters apart , the Monarchs never brought much to the party .

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Sorry this thread has somehow deteriorated into a slagging/defending Edinburgh thread.

 

the bottom line is on the day Glasgow were good Edinburgh weren't. Edinburgh say they have got more to come, well I think so have Glasgow.

 

But it wasn't just winning that made it a good day. a big enthusiastic crowd, air horns, flags, fans dressed in team colours, loads of kids enjoying themselves, the comfy seats in the stand, a beer afterwards, riders comin into the den and talking to the fans - think Richard was maybe a bit embarrassed by it all.

 

quite simply I was entertained and if only more promoters and riders realised the importance of entertaining we might be better of.

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To be fair, after their all conquering season in 2014, the 2015 team looked poor on paper. Granted there are a couple of enigmas this year, but there were last year too...and they still won the league again.

 

That said I don't think this season will be as good for them, but I wouldn't write anyone off just yet. :)

you believe that do you??

 

Cook, Masters and Wolbert , 3 of the top heat leaders plus Sedgeman, who is good enough to be a heat leader in every other side. Add in Riss , who is world longtrack champion so hardly a novice although likely to take time and 2 solid reserves.

 

You think that team looked weak on paper??? They were picked by everyone to win the league

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