Fromafar Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Woffy,Cook,Lambert,The last spot is up for grabs IMO but to overlook King in favour of Harris or Nichols would be a it unfair ,given the the result on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I think it would have been a good idea to have a thread discussing the British Final. Maybe we should start one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Cook has to be a shoe in. Woffy, Woffy, Woofy Cook S Worral Lambert No insult to King just give him time to settle. Cook could easily be riding another ten years so don't think it's fair to bring age into it, wheras Nicholls and Harris are at the other end of their careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 You blame Gavan, he is not capable of holding any sort of conversation/ debate without turning nasty, yes, he really should be banned after some of the language that he has displayed, But there does seem to be a certain amount of favoritisum on this forum.. Although doubt you will go along with that.. Nobody was the target of the post you quoted, more a general opinion of what I was reading on a thread that was supposed to be about the British Final, that had yet again turned into a name calling slagging match. IMO if one or more posters are attacking the poster rather than the post that goes against forum rules and they should be warned or banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 It's a very difficult choice. King was impressive all night and didn't ride badly when Coveney visited but the track for the British Final was hopefully, far different than the track we shall see in the SWC. It was wet and heavy and therefore not necessarily a good guide to who will cope with it best at the end of July. I would go for Woffinden, Cook and Lambert and choose the best from Harris, Nicholls and King based on form much closer to the meeting. Nicholls will have done more laps around the NSS, Harris, often a slow starter to the season and may have come into form and King may have shown his victory was no flash in the pan. Likewise, the UK reserve,pick whoever is in form at the time. Ellis,if he is fit and in the form he was at the beginning of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Cook has to be a shoe in. Cook could easily be riding another ten years so don't think it's fair to bring age into it, wheras Nicholls and Harris are at the other end of their careers. Cook is already 29. Heading towards the end of his career. He came to the sport far too late. No point saying Hancock is still going because the guys a freak. Most riders careers stop rising around 30. Cook is more or less at his best now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Cook is already 29. Heading towards the end of his career. He came to the sport far too late. No point saying Hancock is still going because the guys a freak. Most riders careers stop rising around 30. Cook is more or less at his best now. That's because most riders start riding at a much younger age. Sam Ermolenko didn't start racing till he was 21/22.. he peaked aged 33 and arguably only injuries slowed him up from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Cook is already 29. Heading towards the end of his career. He came to the sport far too late. No point saying Hancock is still going because the guys a freak. Most riders careers stop rising around 30. Cook is more or less at his best now. I recall a certain John Louis starting at 28 and doing quite well! A lower level but Martin Goodwin had his best years in his thirties while riding for Rye House. Qualifying for (and from) a British Final. Craig Cook may not peak until his mid thirties. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Cook is already 29. Heading towards the end of his career. He came to the sport far too late. No point saying Hancock is still going because the guys a freak. Most riders careers stop rising around 30. Cook is more or less at his best now.Loram was 30. Crump won two. Rickardsson 3 and Gollob and Ermolenko 1. Then you have Hancock. I would say a lot of top riders hit there peak in their 30's so Cook could get better in the next 5 years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Loram was 30. Crump won two. Rickardsson 3 and Gollob and Ermolenko 1. Then you have Hancock. I would say a lot of top riders hit there peak in their 30's so Cook could get better in the next 5 years I think Craig Cook still has the potential to be a top line rider. Mind you it does make you wonder whether or not it is age that is holding him back cracking riding the foreign leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I think it would have been a good idea to have a thread discussing the British Final. Maybe we should start one. There is one. It's on the "News & Discussions" page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendover Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 It's a very difficult choice. King was impressive all night and didn't ride badly when Coveney visited but the track for the British Final was hopefully, far different than the track we shall see in the SWC. It was wet and heavy and therefore not necessarily a good guide to who will cope with it best at the end of July. Hmmm, Manchester, July, ,,,,,,,,, it'll be exactly the same, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I think Craig Cook still has the potential to be a top line rider. Mind you it does make you wonder whether or not it is age that is holding him back cracking riding the foreign leagues. Just dont see it. A second heat leader at very best. The riders like Crump, Lora,. Trick etc were hugely experienced when they won their title. Granted Louis started at a very late age and that would never happen today. Cook has done well but a Davey Watt or David Norris at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Might be different if Cookie rode for Poole!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 nice to see GB team selection make the daily star today. for once, we are back to a selection, rather than automatic picks. imo the 3 automatic ones are tai, cook and lambet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Might be different if Cookie rode for Poole!! Why? Wont make much difference to the rider he is or will be. He is not as good as Holder and wont be as good as Andersen was. Why dont Polish clubs give him a chance? Easy answer. nice to see GB team selection make the daily star today. for once, we are back to a selection, rather than automatic picks. imo the 3 automatic ones are tai, cook and lambet... Lambert should be reserve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 nice to see GB team selection make the daily star today. for once, we are back to a selection, rather than automatic picks. imo the 3 automatic ones are tai, cook and lambet... No British Champ ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 No British Champ ?. not automatic imo. yes he had a great night, but whose to say next week, bomber has a stormer, nicholls even? yes king is british champ, but I'm nowhere near convinced hes a international standard....just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 not automatic imo. yes he had a great night, but whose to say next week, bomber has a stormer, nicholls even? yes king is british champ, but I'm nowhere near convinced hes a international standard....just my opinion Fair enough, though King does have experience of SWC from last year, and as he showed last Monday looked very impressive on the track. IMO Woffinden and Lambert should be two certs, after that its a toss up between Nicholls, Cook and King as to who gets the last two places. Then we need an Under-21 reserve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Lambert should be reserve. Steve, on current form that would be a crazy decision. What's your reason for putting Lambert at reserve for GB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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