No Woffinden....

[ColinMills]

Some people on here need to look at the bigger picture! All I'm reading is he isn't even British which is just an absurd an easy way to bash him. How often did Holder and Ward do the Aussie champs? Where was Holder this season? The Aussie champs aren't eveb in GP time so no excuses for him not to ride. Nicki Pedersen misses the Danish Champs nothing is said. Greg Hancock doesn't do the Us Champs. Sorry but there are some pathetic bunch of losers on here just looking for the bad in Tai and time after time being up his nationality which just shoes how incredibly thick some of you are. Not one of you people having a go have even bothered to mention the dates of the semis or the final itself! Have you seen the dates or is it easier just to join in with the in crowd and have a whinge. One of you are trotting out 'it's just one more meeting in his schedule, yes it is, smack bang before a GP. Some of you who call yourselves speedway fans are a joke. And do you honestly think more people go because he would have rode??? I doubt it. We followed Mark Loram everywhere but we still went to the British Final when he missed out in 1993.

agree with a lot you say here Gavan, as I said earlier, TODAY, is the day I lost faith in Tai. Yes I see its a busy schedule, but

I ask anybody again, ...would 1 hectic day ruin his title hopes? if he rode here, I think one missed day would of been accepted.

the fact british fans never see him, I believe its not too much to hope the holder and world champ would grace

the british final. its quite disappointing, but I say again, I agree its a busy period..

Gavan also correct in saying, his attendance wouldn't bring out more people. buster said the same in a ss interview a few weeks ago. hes world champion, but try finding him on the monster energy website!

[iris123]

What a load of verbal diarrhoea most people on here have spouted. Woffinden was born in England & his parents opted to emigrate to Australia. I don't see how that is his fault & anyone in his position will have a natural affinity with the country & it's people. He grew up there & essentially, it is "home" to him. I have a friend who moved there about 3 years ago & already calls it home.

 

He chose to represent the country of his birth, but could easily have elected to race for Australia, but didn't.

All well and good,but I thought we already had it proved to us on a previous thread that NO,he couldn't ride for Australia as he doesn't qualify under the rules unless they make a special case for him as a top sportsman.It isn't though an easy choice of who he rides for according to the experts as he left Australia before his 16th birthday......

[Red Panda]

Some people on here need to look at the bigger picture! All I'm reading is he isn't even British which is just an absurd an easy way to bash him. How often did Holder and Ward do the Aussie champs? Where was Holder this season? The Aussie champs aren't eveb in GP time so no excuses for him not to ride. Nicki Pedersen misses the Danish Champs nothing is said. Greg Hancock doesn't do the Us Champs. Sorry but there are some pathetic bunch of losers on here just looking for the bad in Tai and time after time being up his nationality which just shoes how incredibly thick some of you are. Not one of you people having a go have even bothered to mention the dates of the semis or the final itself! Have you seen the dates or is it easier just to join in with the in crowd and have a whinge. One of you are trotting out 'it's just one more meeting in his schedule, yes it is, smack bang before a GP. Some of you who call yourselves speedway fans are a joke. And do you honestly think more people go because he would have rode??? I doubt it. We followed Mark Loram everywhere but we still went to the British Final when he missed out in 1993.

Holder won it 5 times on the trot and missed the last couple of years through injury and taking time out for a break to re energise himself for the current season..............having had several winters recovering from injury and not being able to take part..............

 

On to Tai..............at the end of the day Tai is going to do what is right for him and rightly or wrongly if he feels taking part in the British Final is detrimental to his health or feels it will burn him out by doing extra meetings then that is his business and no one elses...............the fans cannot dictate who rides in what meeting and threaten to boycott ones he does not take part in...........

 

Team GB need Tai more than Tai needs Team GB..............without Tai in Team GB we are likely to be humiliated on home shale in the SWC because there is no one who is likely to be in the British Final that is as good as Tai and that can perform in a big event the way that he does............

 

And yes one hectic day could ruin his title hopes.........what if he took part and was then injured in the meeting and it ended his world title hopes................and before anyone says anything I am aware that could happen at any meeting but sometimes its too bigger risk to take............we do not know what other commitments he may have around that time so why are people pulling him apart for pulling out of one meeting...........

 

Oh and I think Scunthorpe born even though brought up in Australia is enough to qualify him for Team GB...............you don't see anyone complaining about Mark Loram having represented GB despite being born in Malta.............

 

RP

[scottyfan]

How does he qualify for the Australian side? He was born in Britain to British parents. He can't just choose to become an Australian because he lived there as a child.

Personally, my guess would be that this isn't really about 'burn out' and he is saying that as an excuse.

My guess is that he wanted decent money, what with being World Champion and everything, but they wouldn't agree to it.

Just a guess though. Also, let's not forget the frustrations of Scott Nicholls and Lee Richardson with British authorities.

I suspect there is more to this than meets the eye. I bet he was trying to work out a good deal to perform in a meeting that seems to mean very little these days, and none was forthcoming.

......or maybe because it's not at his "home" track this year like usual and he doesn't want to be beaten by the Belle Vue boys!!

[Notenoughnerve]

I suspect the point is that Rooney doesn't swear while being

interviewed.

I'm pretty sure he said it into camera as he was leaving the pitch

[New Science]

 

Because Woffinden isn't choosing to dip out of the sport's highest competition.. in fact he is doing quite the opposite.

Maybe Woffinden should duck out of the meaningless Poland vs The Rest of the World the day following the Warsaw GP if he is committed to avoiding burnout. Lets be honest Woffinden rightly or wrongly thinks he has outgrown the British Final and a rare British appearance is too much trouble. Woffinden riding does increase interest,ticket sales and TV audience ,no doubt his PR guru Pearson will fill us in on the night.Don't worry See you all at my merchandise stall at Cardiff, "British fans are the best."

Edited March 30, 2016 by New Science

[Dave the Mic]

went off him today.

pathetic. "double standards" is a two way thing, don't go spouting off to the Sun newspaper to look good, saying how people

used to go and watch the best, Mauger and Briggo......then the best (now) don't give them the opportunity to see them!! double standards my a*se!!

I made no mention of double standards. Don't resort to abuse. I just asked you to get some perspective.

[ColinMills]

I made no mention of double standards. Don't resort to abuse. I just asked you to get some perspective.

I not gone back and read it, but my apologises

[Dave the Mic]

Tai's decision not to ride says more about the state/organisation of British Speedway than it does of Him...and If You can;t work that out then.....Well !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone who gets it. F***king Halleluljah

[orion]

What a load of verbal diarrhoea most people on here have spouted. Woffinden was born in England & his parents opted to emigrate to Australia. I don't see how that is his fault & anyone in his position will have a natural affinity with the country & it's people. He grew up there & essentially, it is "home" to him. I have a friend who moved there about 3 years ago & already calls it home.

 

He chose to represent the country of his birth, but could easily have elected to race for Australia, but didn't. You can argue it was a choice of convenience all you like, but for someone with the confidence he has always had in his own ability, he would have backed himself to get in an Aussie side any day, so the "He races for GB because he couldn't get in the Aussie side" argument is bollox.

 

He has always been the first to hold his hand up & race in the SWC, just like Bomber has & has excelled very time, just as Bomber has, but he gets a slating from all and sundry as well, because he "doesn't deserve his place in the GP". Brits can't win, can they? Bomber races in every meeting going & gets slated, Woffinden picks his racing & gets slated. Brilliant.

 

The British Championship means almost nothing these days, unlike in the heady days of the 70's & even the 80's & 90's when there were many world class Brits & several who could win it in any given year, unlike now, when the reality is Woffinden has no real competition & only has to turn up.

 

If you doubt his commitment - PC dropped out of the BL in 1981 & I remember the uproar when he was denied a place in the WC qualifiers that year, almost everyone came in on his side after the BSPA said he couldn't compete - he even considered taking out a foreign licence to do so, Wiggy did that, took out a foreign licence to race in the WC's back in the late 90's & early noughties. Nicholls refused to race for Team GB & so did the sadly missed Lee Richardson. Assume that's all OK, because everyone wants to bash Woffinden, yet institutions like PC & Wiggy can do what they want. Nicholls is BRitish & proud, but had his reasons for not competing & his decision was respected by most, what is the difference between those I have mentioned & Woffinden. Nowt, as far as I can see.

 

Woffinden may not be everyone's cup of tea, but don't slate him for looking after his own interests. Many, many riders have done so in the past, usually winners, which, unless I am mistaken, is the name of the game. Ivan Mauger did exactly the same thing & he did OK out of it, didn't he. Woffinden is THE most professional rider in speedway at the moment, which is why he is a double world champion. Speedway is a sport, not a popularity contest & the best know it. Do you think sponsors will care what a few whingers on a forum think, when their man is all across the TV & media promoting them? Of course. Many riders have cut down on their racing due the hectic schedules they have. How many world class stars have stopped racing in the UK - dozens, because it's a pain in the ass with different race days, flights in & out & to be blunt an EL that is about as strong as the second tier sides in Poland & Sweden. So why bother?

 

The BSPA are bunch of idiots & couldn't run a bath without burning themselves, much less run a "professional sport" properly. Why do you think speedway in the UK is in the mess it is in? Riders have had to wait ages to be paid, put up with poor management & decision making & lord knows what else from the powers that be in this country. It doesn't matter if you are from Birmingham or Botswana, putting up with the crap dished out by the people that run the sport in this country is enough to drive anyone away & there have been plenty of Brit's who have felt the same. They are the ones that cause the issue, not the likes of Woffinden. If his reasoning is that he hasn't been paid on time previously, or that the dates for the semis & final are either side of a GP weekend, or whatever, then to be honest, I would back him totally. In his position I would sooner focus my energy on winning a third world title than race in what, to be honest, is at best a second rate meeting these days.

 

Regardless of you lot moaning, when he pulls on the GB colours at Cardiff & Belle Vue, there will be plenty cheering him on & if his reaction to his reception at Cardiff in he last few years is anything to go by, with the tremendous support he gets from the Cardiff crowd, he is pretty proud to represent them.

 

Finally, before I step down from my soap box, if any of you have raised the money he has for charity by doing to bike rides he has, whilst trying to compete as a professional sportsman all across Europe, I take my hat off to you & will accept all your moaning & whinging. If not, I would argue he is a better man than all of you - and me - because, despite what you lot think, he does care & cares about important stuff like raising money to help sick kids have a better life.

Talking of a pile of poo ..first of all he only British because it suits him and the doors that is had opened lets made that clear ..the moment he no longer needs us he turns his back on uk speedway just when it needs him more than ever .

 

Rather than talk riders who don't ride in the uk how about we talk riders who don't in there own league ? let me know when you find me some names ? As for His charity work that has nothing to do with the points being made that he only a brit because it suited him ....as I said before how does woffy not going in the british final made it better than a second rate event ? how that's helping ? ....if you want to wave your union jack at his while he laughs at you then fair enough but don't expect others to feel the same .

 

The different between Nicholls ,Collins etc is that no what there actions we understood and trust that they were trust brits unlike the plastic Woffy

Edited March 30, 2016 by orion

[ColinMills]

the ego has taken off again tonight on twitter. Tai says "i done more for speedway in last 3 years than anyone will do in

the next 10".....I sure hope someone proves him wrong now!

[Coventry_Bee]

Where he is from/born & what nationality we think he wants to be doesnt really matter. He thinks he is too busy to ride in the British final, there are a very select few that are at the top of there game for a sustained period of time, there will be that time when the new kid comes along and takes the speedway world by storm. Tai himself only a few years ago many of us thought he would never reach the levels he has, for that I congratulate him but it's a long way down when you are at the top and then form dips, motivation dips. Happens to the very best. How many have we thought were going to dominate for years...Emil, Hampel, Holder, Ward?

As a PR exercise I thinks it's not great, it's done though and hope he finds it works for him. Eyes are going to be on him off track also.

Roll on the British final in Manchester !! Can't wait.

 

Cook

Nicholls

Harris

[chris4gillian]

Not so, this is clearly the view of many on here.
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Propose those feeling that way email Chapman and Rossiter and advocate TW is not selected for Team GB unless he reverses his decision.
How can 2 meetings burn him out ?
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I was wrong, this is the comedy post of 2016!

 

Check out the amount likes on posts supporting Tai compared to those on posts berating him.

 

As for your second point

 

Yes he's more an Aussie than a Brit & no matter what spin Rosco gives on this it's a JOKE

 

He was born here you buffoon! So yep, more Aussie

[orion]

 

 

 

He was born here you buffoon! So yep, more Aussie

? Mo Farrah was born in Somalia ,,Chris Froome in Kenya .. ....thou Tai was born in the uk we all know that he thinks he an aussie and only took the union jack to help him open doors for speedway ....

[BWitcher]

......or maybe because it's not at his "home" track this year like usual and he doesn't want to be beaten by the Belle Vue boys!!

 

Yeah, because Woffinden has no clue on big fast tracks does he.

 

I'd say Cook, Nicholls and Harris have a better chance of beating him at Monmore a track Tai was NEVER particularly dominant on.

[chris4gillian]

? Mo Farrah was born in Somalia ,,Chris Froome in Kenya .. ....thou Tai was born in the uk we all know that he thinks he an aussie and only took the union jack to help him open doors for speedway ....

 

We do not all know that. Post something which proves it. Good luck!

[BWitcher]

Talking of a pile of poo ..first of all he only British because it suits him and the doors that is had opened lets made that clear ..the moment he no longer needs us he turns his back on uk speedway just when it needs him more than ever .

 

Rather than talk riders who don't ride in the uk how about we talk riders who don't in there own league ? let me know when you find me some names ? As for His charity work that has nothing to do with the points being made that he only a brit because it suited him ....as I said before how does woffy not going in the british final made it better than a second rate event ? how that's helping ? ....if you want to wave your union jack at his while he laughs at you then fair enough but don't expect others to feel the same .

 

The different between Nicholls ,Collins etc is that no what there actions we understood and trust that they were trust brits unlike the plastic Woffy

 

He's British because he is British.

 

He didn't qualify to be Australian, that has already been discussed previously.

 

If your argument is making things up, it's over already.

[New Science]

Tai's decision not to ride says more about the state/organisation of British Speedway than it does of Him...and If You can;t work that out then.....Well !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hasn't bothered him for the last 5 years when he had something to gain. Ah a stand against British speedway that he doesn't participate in anymore., Don't forget to count me in for the World Cup thou

[BWitcher]

Hasn't bothered him for the last 5 years when he had something to gain. Ah a stand against British speedway that he doesn't participate in anymore., Don't forget to count me in for the World Cup thou

 

Another jealous, bitter soul.

 

Have you ever changed jobs? Do you still go back to your old job to help out or have you moved on to better yourself and your career.

 

The sport has changed, it's time people understood that. Woffinden understands it and has adapted to be the very best in the current speedway world. He's a winner and will do whatever is best for him to continue to be so.. just as the great riders of the past did.

[andys]

 

Talking of a pile of poo ..first of all he only British because it suits him and the doors that is had opened lets made that clear ..the moment he no longer needs us he turns his back on uk speedway just when it needs him more than ever

 

 

 

Ermmmmm I will try and explain this as simply as I can for you...here goes, HE IS BRITISH BECAUSE HE WAS BORN IN BRITAIN.

And as far as I'm aware it's up to everyone to make there own decisions on how they run there live's/sporting careers, tai has for wotever reason decided against competing in the British Final,which has wotever anyone wants to say, lost its appeal. Then it's totally up to him.

Edited March 30, 2016 by andys