New Science Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) you for whatever reason have a huge chip on your shoulder. Read my posts i never said he wasnt eligible to ride for Australia. He loves the country he grew up in whats wrong with that? I was born in a place called Osborne Park in Perth in 1976. I was 7 months old when i come home so if i was doing what Tai did then i would ride for Australia as i was born there. However i feel that i am English, i was born to 2 English parents and lived here 39 years. Tai chose to ride for GB as he feels he is English. Of course he will hang around Aussie riders he grew up with them!!! Jason Crump was born here but to Australian parents, he sees himself as Australian. You are just spouting ignorant rubbish. By all means dislike Tai but your daft stance that he is more an Aussie than a Brit is a cheap and ignorant shot You must admit that if you had not seen his body colour in Melbourne you would not know Britain had the new world champion. From belting out the national anthem of a country he doesn't even represent and then in the moment of triumph with the Gold medal round his neck he feels so much pride for his country of birth to clown around with his hat on backwards when the national anthem plays out.,If that's pride in being British well it said a thousand words, can understand why people talk.Personally as someone who follows Woffinden all over Europe in the GP with my 9 foot union jack I was embarrassed for him, Edited April 1, 2016 by New Science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Your comment was they make "decent" money which is different to "a bit of money" The prize money is really poor and goes nowhere near covering costs, even for the top riders. There is simply no profit to come from GP prize money alone. But, being in the GP series allows them to get places in the European leagues and command higher pay rates than non-GP riders plus the media exposure helps with gaining sponsorship A bit of money as in a saying. Of course they make good money or they wouldnt do it its as sinple as that. How many of them would ride in it if they only covered costs and made $0 profit? My guess would be none of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 A bit of money as in a saying. Of course they make good money or they wouldnt do it its as sinple as that. How many of them would ride in it if they only covered costs and made $0 profit? My guess would be none of them. Are you saying it would be silly of them to do that? i.e. if they made no money from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Best of luck to England in the World T20 on Sunday.. Hoping that Eoin Morgan (Irish) can lift the trophy. He will I am sure need a good game from Ben Stokes (Kiwi) or should that be 'Ben Stoked'? As well as vital contributions from Jason Roy (South African) and Chris Jordan (Barbadian) Cannot wait to cheer on the lads to possibly the greatest victory against the odds since Andrew Strauss (South African) lifted the 'Ashes Urn' in 2005. With Kevin Petersen (South African) playing a major part in the success with his superb batting and Geraint Jones (Papua New Guinean) having a great series behind the wickets... With the recent five nations victory at Rugby led by great performances from Mako Vunipola (Kiwi) and Billy Vunipola (Australian). It could be a great few weeks for 'English' sport.. Let's hope Tai Woffinden (English) can win the World Title this year.... Edited April 1, 2016 by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Best of luck to England in the World T20 on Sunday.. Hoping that Eoin Morgan (Irish) can lift the trophy. He will I am sure need a good game from Ben Stokes (Kiwi) or should that be 'Ben Stoked'? As well as vital contributions from Jason Roy (South African) and Chris Jordan (Barbadian) Cannot wait to cheer on the lads to possibly the greatest victory against the odds since Andrew Strauss (South African) lifted the 'Ashes Urn' in 2005. With Kevin Petersen (South African) playing a major part in the success with his superb batting and Geraint Jones (Papua New Guinean) having a great series behind the wickets... With the recent five nations victory at Rugby led by great performances from Mako Vunipola (Kiwi) and Billy Vunipola (Australian). It could be a great few weeks for 'English' sport.. Let's hope Tai Woffinden (English) can win the World Title this year.... Lets hope if they do win the cricket they stay with there clubs in England and back the game here and put something back into the sport ....I hear others turn there back on the sport in the uk that built them up Edited April 1, 2016 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Best of luck to England in the World T20 on Sunday.. Hoping that Eoin Morgan (Irish) can lift the trophy. He will I am sure need a good game from Ben Stokes (Kiwi) or should that be 'Ben Stoked'? As well as vital contributions from Jason Roy (South African) and Chris Jordan (Barbadian) Cannot wait to cheer on the lads to possibly the greatest victory against the odds since Andrew Strauss (South African) lifted the 'Ashes Urn' in 2005. With Kevin Petersen (South African) playing a major part in the success with his superb batting and Geraint Jones (Papua New Guinean) having a great series behind the wickets... With the recent five nations victory at Rugby led by great performances from Mako Vunipola (Kiwi) and Billy Vunipola (Australian). It could be a great few weeks for 'English' sport.. Let's hope Tai Woffinden (English) can win the World Title this year.... Point taken, but it was Michael Vaughan (Lancastrian originally) who lifted the Ashes in 2005. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Point taken, but it was Michael Vaughan (Lancastrian originally) who lifted the Ashes in 2005. Course it was.... Never a true Yorkshireman!!!😁 Flag of convenience because he couldn't get in Lankys team!!!😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 If Ecclestone thinks F1 is like The Rolling Stones without Mick Jagger at the moment,is British speedway like Gerry without the Pacemakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Well Come the GPs, I for one will be supporting BRITISH WORLD CHAMPION Tai Woffinden ALL THE WAY...I don't give a Shiny Sh1te what some of you think...As for the British Final..time for the Young Guns to step up..If Bomber or Scott wins it again...WOW! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kester Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Lets hope if they do win the cricket they stay with there clubs in England and back the game here and put something back into the sport ....I hear others turn there back on the sport in the uk that built them up I agree with you on most things but not this I'm afraid. What about if I take a job with a new employer doing the same job I do now? Am I 'turning my back' on my employer? Should I not take that job? Am I beholden to my existing employer as they trained me in that job and gave me the skills necessary to do it? What do I owe them? Nothing - they paid me to do a job, I did the job and took that money. Loyalty means a lot to fans, but ultimately means a lot less to employees - which is what riders are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Are you saying it would be silly of them to do that? i.e. if they made no money from it? From their point of view, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) I agree with you on most things but not this I'm afraid. What about if I take a job with a new employer doing the same job I do now? Am I 'turning my back' on my employer? Should I not take that job? Am I beholden to my existing employer as they trained me in that job and gave me the skills necessary to do it? What do I owe them? Nothing - they paid me to do a job, I did the job and took that money. Loyalty means a lot to fans, but ultimately means a lot less to employees - which is what riders are. I respect your opinion a lot ...and I agree with you with what you say and understand that people move on to better jobs etc ...the people who run the sport in the uk we all agree a complete mess of everything hence why the sport in on it's knees even here the way they have got abouts things on the dates etc is a complete cock up ....I just fell strongly in this case and where the sport is and with Tai being world champion he should make a massive effort to help and promote the league and the sport in the uk I don't look it like a normal 9 to 5 job etc it's more than that . Uk speedway helped to put Tai where he is I think the least he could do if he cares about British speedway is to ride in it's final . Edited April 1, 2016 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 From their point of view, yes. So it would therefore be silly for Woffinden to ride in the British Final. Glad we established that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjsj9803 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 BWitcher get home from Portugal and actually see a meeting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 BWitcher get home from Portugal and actually see a meeting I would, but I don't want to burn myself out 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Best of luck to England in the World T20 on Sunday.. Hoping that Eoin Morgan (Irish) can lift the trophy. He will I am sure need a good game from Ben Stokes (Kiwi) or should that be 'Ben Stoked'? As well as vital contributions from Jason Roy (South African) and Chris Jordan (Barbadian) Cannot wait to cheer on the lads to possibly the greatest victory against the odds since Andrew Strauss (South African) lifted the 'Ashes Urn' in 2005. With Kevin Petersen (South African) playing a major part in the success with his superb batting and Geraint Jones (Papua New Guinean) having a great series behind the wickets... With the recent five nations victory at Rugby led by great performances from Mako Vunipola (Kiwi) and Billy Vunipola (Australian). It could be a great few weeks for 'English' sport.. Let's hope Tai Woffinden (English) can win the World Title this year.... H'ow many of these sportsmen you name belt out the national anthem of the country they don't represent when representing their err adopted countries . NON. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 So it would therefore be silly for Woffinden to ride in the British Final. Glad we established that. They dont get paid for the british final at all then, do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 They dont get paid for the british final at all then, do they?I'd imagine not enough to make much profit after bringing bikes back to the UK twice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Tai has been backed by all promotors on this as they understand his reasons. Chris Louis has gone on record as saying he would do the same thing in Tai's position Its just a few keyboard warriors on here who feel the need to have a go 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nicki Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 H'ow many of these sportsmen you name belt out the national anthem of the country they don't represent when representing their err adopted countries . NON. NON - is that French for No? A mark of respect to know the words of another country's National Anthem (I know a few and could sing along to them). Believe Tai knows the words to the Polish National Anthem too, so wouldn't be surprised if you see him singing along to that as well. Would you be up in arms about this too? Then he has gone to the trouble of learning to speak Polish (another sign of his massive professionalism), as it seems that you have with the French language. Very impressive, oui Tai is a professional 21st century sportsman and has made a professional decision to further his ambition to win further World Titles. He was born in Britain, to British parents, therefore he is British and represents the ACU in international events. There is no longer an obligation for an ACU licensed rider to take part in the British Championship. If you believe the British Title meant nothing to him, then witness his disappointment when he failed to previously. The World Title is the pinnacle in his chosen sport. Currently, Tai has achieved more as a Britain in Individual World Championship terms since Peter Craven in 1962. Back to back Titles achieved this year will seal Tai's claim to be the greatest British World Title achiever in history. Holding an affinity to another country does not and will not alter this. His competing in this year's British Title would not be a panacea to the sport's woes in Britain. The issues go far deeper than this and, maybe, his omission from the British Final is another sign of these rather than a reason. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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