andys Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Others don't and have parents bitching and moaning and blaming everyone else for the rest of their lives. Not mentioning any names of course Pmsl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) well thanks for enlightening me Dave the prick , I had no idea Football clubs paid Up to £130.000.000 for a player then just let them walk away and play for someone else , no wonder many of them are in financial difficulty if their assets are depreciating at £40.000.000 a year . makes Hancocks transfer fee to Coventry look proper peanuts , and considering he stayed for 5 years they only lost 6,000 a year when he waved goodbye and sailed off to Poland You had no idea but decided to introduce football into the argument. Doing well aren't you? What a clever use of abusive language as well, give yourself a pat on the back. Edited April 1, 2016 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 And so it rages on... What a sad bunch some of you are. Tai is British, rides for Team GB as a Brit and is proud of both but at the same time has huge affection also for the country he was brought up in. What's so difficult to understand with that? NOWT. He doesn't want to ride in the British final this year as he want to concentrate 100% on the World Championship. Again, what's so difficult to understand with that? NOWT. Fin. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 And so it rages on... What a sad bunch some of you are. Tai is British, rides for Team GB as a Brit and is proud of both but at the same time has huge affection also for the country he was brought up in. What's so difficult to understand with that? NOWT. He doesn't want to ride in the British final this year as he want to concentrate 100% on the World Championship. Again, what's so difficult to understand with that? NOWT. Fin. Another chris classic ..not for the first time you go on to a topic to moan about it still going on ..then add another comment ...if your not sad and don't want it to rage on ..don't read it and don't comment ..how hard can it be ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 The good news is that British fans will be able to see the British Champ competing at their track for the rest of the season !! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 And so it rages on... What a sad bunch some of you are. Tai is British, rides for Team GB as a Brit and is proud of both but at the same time has huge affection also for the country he was brought up in. What's so difficult to understand with that? NOWT. He doesn't want to ride in the British final this year as he want to concentrate 100% on the World Championship. Again, what's so difficult to understand with that? NOWT. Fin. 100% spot on mate. We might not agree about everything (i.e Newman & Garrity) but at least i know i can have a debate with yourself. Another chris classic ..not for the first time you go on to a topic to moan about it still going on ..then add another comment ...if your not sad and don't want it to rage on ..don't read it and don't comment ..how hard can it be ? because he is the same as i am frustrated by the sheer volume of people who are not intelligent to understand what is going on and simply jump on the Aussie/Not British line that people either to dumb or unable to think for themselves use. No issue with people not liking Tai, I wasnt a fan of Tatum, but to use his nationality as the stick to beat him with shows a lack of intelligence. Again i tell people look at the dates of the semis and the final!! Anyone with half a brain can understand why he isnt riding 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) jason crump didnt need to because he was good enough to qualify for the GPand the aussie team on merit , and Morris claimed to be british rode in the national league then after he had made use of that decided he was Australian Indeed. JC was good enough & at the same age, Woffinden would have walked into any national team, Australia included. Regarding Morris, yes he did. Woffinden hasn't. Crump claimed to be British too when he started, coming in as a British junior. So those two both used their British roots to their advantage, before becoming Australian once it suited. No he didn't. As he was born in England, he was perfectly entitled to race on what I seem to recall then was a 2.00 assessed average. well thanks for enlightening me Dave the prick , I had no idea Football clubs paid Up to £130.000.000 for a player then just let them walk away and play for someone else , no wonder many of them are in financial difficulty if their assets are depreciating at £40.000.000 a year . makes Hancocks transfer fee to Coventry look proper peanuts , and considering he stayed for 5 years they only lost 6,000 a year when he waved goodbye and sailed off to Poland You really are a most unpleasant individual. There is no need for abuse at all & your opening comment just serves to show that you cannot hold a reasoned argument with anyone without resorting to abuse. The football link you provided & point you raise is not relevant, nor is the fact that many clubs are in difficulty. The fact that you liken the story of that young man to a completely different sport with different rules & a set of circumstances that bears no comparison shows how you are simply attempting to create an argument, which everyone else knows doesn't hold water. I'm not really sure why I have even responded to this as your comments are so puerile they should just be ignored, which, in future is the approach I will take. Edited April 1, 2016 by Dave the Mic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 No he didn't. As he was born in England, he was perfectly entitled to race on what I seem to recall then was a 2.00 assessed average. He would have had to ride as British to get it. Had he just ridden as an Australian he would not have been assessed at 2.00 or 3.00 or whatever it was, regardless of where he was born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 100% spot on mate. We might not agree about everything (i.e Newman & Garrity) but at least i know i can have a debate with yourself. because he is the same as i am frustrated by the sheer volume of people who are not intelligent to understand what is going on and simply jump on the Aussie/Not British line that people either to dumb or unable to think for themselves use. No issue with people not liking Tai, I wasnt a fan of Tatum, but to use his nationality as the stick to beat him with shows a lack of intelligence. Again i tell people look at the dates of the semis and the final!! Anyone with half a brain can understand why he isnt riding Not sure there dumb ..what the likes are you are doing is not understanding the argument ...people think that he is aussie at heart and the way he treats uk speedway adds fuel to the fire ..you may not agree with that but nothing non intelligent about thinking that, it's just a valid point of view . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 He got lucky wining it last year, hope cookie does it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 He would have had to ride as British to get it. Had he just ridden as an Australian he would not have been assessed at 2.00 or 3.00 or whatever it was, regardless of where he was born. Are you sure? many Aussies back then raced here on very low averages & not all of them had JC's birthplace. I am not saying you are wrong, I genuinely thought there were others, in fact I am certain as Leigh Adams was the same - started at reserve for Poole on a stupidly low average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 So you are suggesting that Tai chose GB because he was worried he wouldnt get in the gp's. Stop talking claptrap. He would back himself to do anything he is that confident. Who was the Aussie squad when Tai made his decision then? Crump, Adams, Sullivan? 3 riders who would have been retiring not long after Tai came through then basically a young Holder. Your quite correct saying Tai could have choose GB or Australia but to say he chose GB to get an easier route in is absolute rubbish How is it rubbish? Everyone knows even the backmarkers in the gp make decent money hence the likes of harris year after year taking part in it. Woffinden wanted to grt in the series like any other rider and being a brit sped the process up hugely He is no brit. i can understand his loyalty to aus completely, he grew up here. But his claims he is british through and through is just claptrap. Hes got aussie tattoos , an aussie accent, spent most of his life in western australia, hangs round with fellow aussie riders , prefers to sing the aussie national anthem, yet people think hes british! He is british out of convienience!!! People say he wasnt able to represent australia are talking absolute crap. Ive had many a meeting with solicitors on how to stay in australia long term, and he meets the criteria. His parents both would of been australian citizens which give him every right to become an aussie citizen himself. So all this crap that he isnt able to represent aussie doesnt wash. Hes an aussie with a convienient british passport. Nothing less. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Everyone knows even the backmarkers in the gp make decent money They do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Another chris classic ..not for the first time you go on to a topic to moan about it still going on ..then add another comment ...if your not sad and don't want it to rage on ..don't read it and don't comment ..how hard can it be ? Oh I love your continuing codswallop, you never fail to make me laugh at you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) They do? Of course they do thru sponsors etc Do you really think every rider in it enters hoping theyll be world champ? Do you really think Harris believes in himself to be world champ this season? The years of the drymls, andy smith, pepe, stonehewer etc..... Do you really think any of these believed they had it in them to be world champ? Course not. They know that with plenty of sponsors, gaining world wide tv coverage will earn them a decent few quid. I remember speaking with charlie gjedde during his time at newport, jokingly saying if you carry on this form youll be in the gps next year. He basically replied saying even the lower ranked gp riders get paid well. Edited April 1, 2016 by Pinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 How is it rubbish? Everyone knows even the backmarkers in the gp make decent money hence the likes of harris year after year taking part in it. Woffinden wanted to grt in the series like any other rider and being a brit sped the process up hugely He is no brit. i can understand his loyalty to aus completely, he grew up here. But his claims he is british through and through is just claptrap. Hes got aussie tattoos , an aussie accent, spent most of his life in western australia, hangs round with fellow aussie riders , prefers to sing the aussie national anthem, yet people think hes british! He is british out of convienience!!! People say he wasnt able to represent australia are talking absolute crap. Ive had many a meeting with solicitors on how to stay in australia long term, and he meets the criteria. His parents both would of been australian citizens which give him every right to become an aussie citizen himself. So all this crap that he isnt able to represent aussie doesnt wash. Hes an aussie with a convienient british passport. Nothing less. you for whatever reason have a huge chip on your shoulder. Read my posts i never said he wasnt eligible to ride for Australia. He loves the country he grew up in whats wrong with that? I was born in a place called Osborne Park in Perth in 1976. I was 7 months old when i come home so if i was doing what Tai did then i would ride for Australia as i was born there. However i feel that i am English, i was born to 2 English parents and lived here 39 years. Tai chose to ride for GB as he feels he is English. Of course he will hang around Aussie riders he grew up with them!!! Jason Crump was born here but to Australian parents, he sees himself as Australian. You are just spouting ignorant rubbish. By all means dislike Tai but your daft stance that he is more an Aussie than a Brit is a cheap and ignorant shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Not sure there dumb ..what the likes are you are doing is not understanding the argument ...people think that he is aussie at heart and the way he treats uk speedway adds fuel to the fire ..you may not agree with that but nothing non intelligent about thinking that, it's just a valid point of view . More classic laughable codswallop! Gavan and I both understand 'the argument' as you put it very well. It's the likes of yourself that are refusing to take step back and think for a few moments, instead you just follow the sheep. Try thinking as an individual for once, you may even write something worth reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 More classic laughable codswallop! Gavan and I both understand 'the argument' as you put it very well. It's the likes of yourself that are refusing to take step back and think for a few moments, instead you just follow the sheep. Try thinking as an individual for once, you may even write something worth reading. You got no chance trying to explain to those who simply bury their heads and go along with a few lemmings. As ive said if you dislike Tai then fine but the blind and dumb who follow the herd and trot out the ' he is an Aussie' line are just a tad clueless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 More classic laughable codswallop! Gavan and I both understand 'the argument' as you put it very well. It's the likes of yourself that are refusing to take step back and think for a few moments, instead you just follow the sheep. Try thinking as an individual for once, you may even write something worth reading. You make reference to “sheep” yet continually use the comments of others to validate your posts….posts on a thread that you are fed up with…yet continue to post on. A thread where you have taken a step back and actually thought about what you were posting before falling for a post soaked in sarcasm….all the while openly questioning the intelligence of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Of course they do thru sponsors etc Do you really think every rider in it enters hoping theyll be world champ? Do you really think Harris believes in himself to be world champ this season? The years of the drymls, andy smith, pepe, stonehewer etc..... Do you really think any of these believed they had it in them to be world champ? Course not. They know that with plenty of sponsors, gaining world wide tv coverage will earn them a decent few quid. I remember speaking with charlie gjedde during his time at newport, jokingly saying if you carry on this form youll be in the gps next year. He basically replied saying even the lower ranked gp riders get paid well. A lot of riders say they LOSE money riding in the GP's so that alone proves you're completely wrong. Every one of those riders you've quoted felt at some stage they could win the World Championship and all of them wanted to be there. As for Harris, he genuinely does feel he can win it, he said so a few days ago in an article on the GP website. I personally don't think he will get close, but if you think you can't from the outset then forget it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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