geoff 100 Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 what it boils down to is he dont want to ride at scunny or glasgow on a sunday ,i have thought for a long time he dont give a toss about british speedway since he made it big,have often wondered what i would do if i was a boss of a big company and he came asking for sponsorship looking the way he does i would chase him right out the door .cant wait to hear mr pearsons take on it on sky just hope he wipes the brown stuff off his lips after talking to tai .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Talking of a pile of poo ..first of all he only British because it suits him and the doors that is had opened lets made that clear ..the moment he no longer needs us he turns his back on uk speedway just when it needs him more than ever Ermmmmm I will try and explain this as simply as I can for you...here goes, HE IS BRITISH BECAUSE HE WAS BORN IN BRITAIN. Are it explain it to you as simply as I can ,just because you were born somewhere does not mean that you represent them at sport etc I could give you a endless list of sportsman who do not represent the nation they were born ...Using your logic Chris Froome must be a Kenyan Edited March 30, 2016 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Talking of a pile of poo ..first of all he only British because it suits him and the doors that is had opened lets made that clear ..the moment he no longer needs us he turns his back on uk speedway just when it needs him more than ever Ermmmmm I will try and explain this as simply as I can for you...here goes, HE IS BRITISH BECAUSE HE WAS BORN IN BRITAIN. And as far as I'm aware it's up to everyone to make there own decisions on how they run there live's/sporting careers, tai has for wotever reason decided against competing in the British Final,which has wotever anyone wants to say, lost its appeal. Then it's totally up to him. agree with every word of that..BUT theres some dodgy comments coming out today from the woffy family on "two" twitter accounts that's showing a piece of arrogance imo. the earlier comment of "done more in 3 yrs than anyone will in the next 10"..(that's an incentive for young rob lambet if I ever seen one..PLUS "hes done more for british speedway than anybody in the last 15 yrs".. Cant deny hes successful, but is speedway here in a better state than 15 yrs ago? really? lowest crowd levels in my lifetime (I'm 48), to my knowledge he has nothing to do with the national stadium, if he walked down any road in the uk who would recognise him? lets not go overboard here..i have always praised him when I believed he deserved it, but I simply cant believe 1 day of devotion to the UK is much to ask for. Agree with BW and others about a lot they say, I think he could be the first 7 time world champ, and in all honesty "if" the brits won the world cup who would complain? just think hes lost a bit of respect today (it wont bother him, nor should it), but I'm just one person who wont purchase another £25 piece of clothing from his merchandise now Are it explain it to you as simply I can just because you were born somewhere does not mean that you represent them at sport etc I could give you a endless list of sportsman who do not represent the nation they were born ... as I quoted on another page.....jesus was born in a stable, it doesn't make him a horse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Are it explain it to you as simply I can just because you were born somewhere does not mean that you represent them at sport etc I could give you a endless list of sportsman who do not represent the nation they were born ...Yes your right, but tai has chosen to show allegiance to the country he was born in and yet you are saying he's not even British. I quote " he's only British cos it suits him" no he's only British cos he was born here ffs which bit of that do you not understand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) We do not all know that. Post something which proves it. Good luck! Have a look at the last Gp and what he choose to sing ...there you go ..no luck needed Yes your right, but tai has chosen to show allegiance to the country he was born in and yet you are saying he's not even British. I quote " he's only British cos it suits him" no he's only British cos he was born here ffs which bit of that do you not understand. So as I said do you think Chris Froome is a Kenyan ? I never said Woffy was not British I said he has choose to do so at Sport because it suited him but at heart he is a Aussie Edited March 30, 2016 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 i personally think woffy imo loves riding for GB. i think he adores Australia, which is fine, i love new york, but on this part of the discussion, i have no gripes with his nationality......just gutted bout todays decision! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Have a look at the last Gp and what he choose to sing ...there you go ..no luck needed So as I said do you think Chris Froome is a Kenyan ? The one where he won the World Championship? Yep he sung the Aussie national anthem WTF has Chris Froome got to do with Tai? Nothing. i personally think woffy imo loves riding for GB. i think he adores Australia, which is fine, i love new york, but on this part of the discussion, i have no gripes with his nationality......just gutted bout todays decision! Pretty good post fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Andy Murray - British when he's winning on English soil - Scottish at all other times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) As I said in a previous post, I am saddened by this move on Tai's part. I also have to say how uncomfortable I am with his ebay auctioning of medals. It is entirely his decision of course. And BWitcher may be right in his thinking that ANYTHING that moves him closer to a third World Championship is acceptable. I'm just not so sure at all. But, among others, selling his Garry Stead Benefit medal for profit. Just seems grossly misjudged. No doubt Pearson will come out with a Press Release to offer absolution. Edited March 30, 2016 by Grand Central 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Andy Murray - British when he's winning on English soil - Scottish at all other times. Tai Woffinden - British at all times. Fin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 As I said in a previous post, I am saddened by this move on Tai's part. I also have to say how uncomfortable I am with his ebay auctioning of medals. It is entirely his decision of course. And BWithcer may be right in his thinking that ANYTHING that moves him closer to a third World Championship is acceptable. I'm just not so sure at all. But, among others, selling his Garry Stead Benefit medal for profit. Just seems grossly misjudged. No doubt Pearson will come out with a Press Release to offer absolution. agree bout the medals, shame they couldn't go to a speedway museum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 He only chose to be a brit because he wasnt good enough for the aussie side at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 He only chose to be a brit because he wasnt good enough for the aussie side at the time. Add to that the wildcard sponsors etc . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 After living out here in aus tho, i dont blame him for taking preferance to aus over the uk 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Tai Woffinden chose to align himself to Britain for one reason, and one reason only. He wanted to ride at international level, if he had chosen to take the Austrailan Citizenship route, he would not have got that opportunity, he would have been way down the pecking order to get into the Aussie team, and would have had an equally poor chance of getting into to GP's as an Aussie, there were just to many good Aussie riders at that time.... He chose Britain, purely because we were woeful at the time, and had a far far better set of opportunities with The UK.. He's not the only sportsman that has chosen a flag for convenience, he won't be the last. He just doesn't do a very good job of disguising his loyalties when it comes to where he really wants to be.. I don't buy the burn-out story, that's just a load of old twaddle.. Why didn't he just say he didn't want to race in the British Final, because it would hamper his application for Australian Citizenship.. At least we would of known.. And before you harp on about the SWC, if his application for Aussie Citizenship wascgoing well, he may well have pulled out of that as well and have been picked to represent Australia!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Tai Woffinden chose to align himself to Britain for one reason, and one reason only. He wanted to ride at international level, if he had chosen to take the Austrailan Citizenship route, he would not have got that opportunity, he would have been way down the pecking order to get into the Aussie team, and would have had an equally poor chance of getting into to GP's as an Aussie, there were just to many good Aussie riders at that time.... He chose Britain, purely because we were woeful at the time, and had a far far better set of opportunities with The UK.. He's not the only sportsman that has chosen a flag for convenience, he won't be the last. He just doesn't do a very good job of disguising his loyalties when it comes to where he really wants to be.. I don't buy the burn-out story, that's just a load of old twaddle.. Why didn't he just say he didn't want to race in the British Final, because it would hamper his application for Australian Citizenship.. At least we would of known.. And before you harp on about the SWC, if his application for Aussie Citizenship wascgoing well, he may well have pulled out of that as well and have been picked to represent Australia!! Absolute nonsense. Even if he was eligible for Aussie citizenship, riding Speedway for GB would have no effect on it. So, anyway, what you are saying is that he doesn't have Aussie citizenship. So how can he have ridden for Australia then if he wasn't a citizen? Edited March 31, 2016 by grachan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Absolute nonsense. Even if he was eligible for Aussie citizenship, riding Speedway for GB would have no effect on it. So, anyway, what you are saying is that he doesn't have Aussie citizenship. So how can he have ridden for Australia then if he wasn't a citizen? "If" Tai has used the system to further his career then fair enough but don'y expect everyone to be happy about it !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 What a bunch of pig ignorant head in the sand people there are on this forum. Tai is British, he was born here his parents are British. They chose to emigrate and obviously at that age Tai had to go with them hardly his fault where he grew up. You fools on here somehow expect him to have no affinity with Australia!! Of course he will love the place he made many friends there. He chose to ride for the UK his parents are British and he considers himself British like his parents are. If you don't like Tai as a person that's fine we don't like everyone, I was never a big Tatum fan, but to simply keep going on and on about he usnt even British is just being a lemming and joining up with the idiots. Once again I ask people have you seen the dates of the semis and final??????? Understandably he doesn't want to be injured. He is a Brit through and through who also loves the country he grew up in what is wrong with that!!!!! As we all say Mark Loram was born in Malta. Didn't see to many people moaning that he rode for Team GB!!! By the pathetic responses on here Mark should have ride for his country of birth then shouldn't he!!!! Those who also say Tai chose GB because he couldn't get in the Aussie team are also talking tosh. Tai as a character backs himself to be the best at anything so he would have fought tooth and nail anyway. Some sad people on here that I would suggest should stay away from Cardiff 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahLapworth Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I have nothing personal against Tai but his actions here have completely devalued the British Championship. In a time where British Speedway is having a hard time we now have a "British" World champion giving his home championship a snub because he can't be arsed. How can he say he doesn't want to burn himself out when he does half the meeting he used to? I also think this show's that Tai has little regard for his British fans. Of cause he is going to ride in the World Cup final. Its only one meeting and besides that its sponsored by his big backers Monster so its more than his sponsorship is worth to give that event the cold shoulder. Sorry Tai I have always supported you but your snub of your British fans is unsavory. It's one bloody meeting and a lot of fans would have turned up just to see you as your appearances here now are far and few between over here. I know at the end of the day its business and you have to look after number 1 but don't forget the people who have always supported you. British World Champion? - Then behave like one. Just thought I'd re-post this as a lot of people are now saying that those speaking out against Mr Woffinden are pig headed and ignorant. I have not made any comment that Tai in anti-British and I have note said he cares more about Australia. Tai is not forced to ride in the British Final but I do think he is being very selfish and is having very little regard for his British Fan base. With regards to the SWC the only reason Rosco and Chapman are still sucking up to him is due to sponsorship. The SWC is sponsored by Monster Energy. They are Tai's big backers. Monster pull the strings so the BSPA would not dare upset them by not using their golden boy in Team GB. Just a thought as well. If Mr Woffinden is scared of being burned out he should take a leaf out of Greg Hancock's book. Greg is 46, a 3 time world champ, rides in probably more meetings and also flies back to the States during the season to compete in his home championship combined with having a family! If lessons are to be learned maybe the BSPA should consider seeding their British GP riders directly through to the Final. I know Tai reads these posts and he has to realise he has let a lot of his supporters down who would have turned up to see him. Maybe it's not too late to change your mind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Tai Woffinden chose to align himself to Britain for one reason, and one reason only. He wanted to ride at international level, if he had chosen to take the Austrailan Citizenship route, he would not have got that opportunity, he would have been way down the pecking order to get into the Aussie team, and would have had an equally poor chance of getting into to GP's as an Aussie, there were just to many good Aussie riders at that time.... He chose Britain, purely because we were woeful at the time, and had a far far better set of opportunities with The UK.. He's not the only sportsman that has chosen a flag for convenience, he won't be the last. He just doesn't do a very good job of disguising his loyalties when it comes to where he really wants to be.. I don't buy the burn-out story, that's just a load of old twaddle.. Why didn't he just say he didn't want to race in the British Final, because it would hamper his application for Australian Citizenship.. At least we would of known.. And before you harp on about the SWC, if his application for Aussie Citizenship wascgoing well, he may well have pulled out of that as well and have been picked to represent Australia!! Oh dear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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