chris4gillian Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Exactly what I've been saying! At the end of the day Tai is his own man who makes his own decisions just like we all do. He has decided to focus on the World Championship in 2016 and not risk injury/fatigue in the British Final bearing in mind there's a GP sandwiched in there. His goal is to be a multi World Champion so his decision makes sense to me. It's his choice so bleating on about it is pointless and rather silly...but I'm sure it won't stop all the usual keyboard warriors who have nothing better to do carrying on with their pathetic persecution. Tai is British through and through but loves the country he grew up in. What's wrong with that? Sweet FA!! How right I was! I'd like to say respect to both Gavan and BWitcher who like myself (and a few others) have taken a step back and sensibly thought about things before posting. I suggest a few others should do the same...however pigs flying has more of a chance! I wonder what all the other British riders think about Tai's decision? May hear from a couple on the EDP speedway podcast It ought to be an honour to race in your country's national championship, not be taken for granted but there ya go ..... I doubt they care tbh. A few may feel they have more of a chance of winning now, but other than that...probably not a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Some folk are so selfish. There are 50,000 fans who bought tickets for the Warsaw GP last year... they are being compensated with an extra meeting on Sunday afternoon yet a few fans over here expect the World Champion to ignore those 50,000 fans and race over here in front of a few thousand. The reality is, the first semi-final is scheduled the night before the GP. There is no chance he was ever going to race in that... one poster quite brilliantly (in a bad way) mentioned that Chris Harris has often ridden on a Friday night before a GP. Brilliant! That's the way to go quite clearly with his level of success in such meetings.... As for the Sunday, Woffinden will be contracted to race in the meeting at Warsaw... where he is already present as are his bikes. I wonder what all the other British riders think about Tai's decision? May hear from a couple on the EDP speedway podcast It ought to be an honour to race in your country's national championship, not be taken for granted but there ya go ..... The national championship is an individual meeting. It should be an honour to race for your COUNTRY which Tai does whereas Scott Nicholls for example, for quite some time has not. If he rides that meeting then fans will have a right to be annoyed. And if he doesn't, about 20 x as many fans will have a far bigger right to be annoyed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Peter Collins skipped the 77 British final. Riders like mauger, Olsen, Jan Anderson, per jonsson, Bruce pen hall happily skipped their national champs back in the day. Just saying. .. Edited March 31, 2016 by waihekeaces1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I don't recall Jan Andersson skipping the Swedish Championships - certainly not whilst when he was riding at his peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Riders like mauger, Olsen, Jan Anderson, per jonsson, Bruce pen hall happily skipped their national champs back in the day. Just saying. .. I think you're mistaking the Danish, Swedish and US Finals of the World Championship, with the Danish, Swedish and US Championships. Separate events. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Of course Tal chose to be British rather than Aussie because it was easier to get into the GB team.... Everyone know his natural talent would never have got him in the Aussie team as they are so good and even now after two world titles he would stuggle to get a place I am sure.... Are you really serious in that statement. There were only 2 of the Aussie team in the gp's last year, the best 2 they had (after the sad departure of DW) and he thrashed both of them. Edited March 31, 2016 by Joe Hatton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Tai said he is giving it a miss this year, he never said he is never going to do the final again, he wants to become a 3rd time world champion ..for me its the timing of the semis.....he cant do the semis as its gp week so maybe feels he shouldtn be seeded into the final, which i believe is also a gp week,If he was seeded straight through then all you Tai haters would feed on the fact of "why?. he didnt do the semis.. give it to some one who rode in them" To me Tai cant win whatever he does... No. British speedway should be saying he's never doing the British final again !!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 No. British speedway should be saying he's never doing the British final again !!. Why? They didn't tell Peter Collins he couldn't ride again. They didn't tell Mark Loram he couldn't ride again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Why? They didn't tell Peter Collins he couldn't ride again. They didn't tell Mark Loram he couldn't ride again. Peter Collins (1977) was seeded directly thru' to the inter-Continental Final (by-passing the British Final stage of the World Championship qualifying system) by the then authorities. A totally different scenario. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Peter Collins (1977) was seeded directly thru' to the inter-Continental Final (by-passing the British Final stage of the World Championship qualifying system) by the then authorities. A totally different scenario. Tai Woffinden is already in the Grand Prix, therefore doesn't need to ride in the British qualifying rounds, nor does he need to earn a wild card for the British GP. Exactly the same situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Tai Woffinden is already in the Grand Prix, therefore doesn't need to ride in the British qualifying rounds, nor does he need to earn a wild card for the British GP. Exactly the same situation. The British Final was once one step along a long qualifying system to reach the then World Final. Riders had to take part in it to stand any chance making the big night. The British authorities took the unprecedented decision to seed Peter thu' to the Inter-Continental Final. It wasn't Peter's decision but one he obviously was very happy to accept. Tai's decision not to compete is purely down to himself (whatever his personal reasons maybe) The circumstances regarding the World Championship are very different now to what it once was. Edited March 31, 2016 by steve roberts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I don't follow the Grand Prix so am not familiar with the qualification system. Are you therefore saying that a British rider is required to ride in the British Final to stand a chance qualifying for the next year's GP series if not already in it? To be honest I'm not 100% sure anymore, they seem to change it from year to year. Either way, it doesn't change the fact that Peter Collins skipped the British Final the moment he didn't 'need' to ride in it. No different from what Tai is doing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 No Chris Froome isn't a Kenyan because he was born to British parents, just as Tai Woffinden was. Your ignorance of the matter really is childlike. Woffinden didn't and doesn't qualify to race for Australia. There was no choice involved. As for showing some allegiance to Australia, that is 100% natural as he spent the majority of his childhood there and considers it 'home'. Maybe I am wrong but I am sure if Chris Froome as was born in Kenya would be allowed to represent them if he choose to do so ..hence in sporting terms he would be classed as Kenyan ..so no ignorance at all . As for child like your Sticking up for anything Tai just because he rode for Wolves is akin to a 13 year old girl and hence why anything you say on subject is not important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Maybe I am wrong but I am sure if Chris Froome as was born in Kenya would be allowed to represent them if he choose to do so ..hence in sporting terms he would be classed as Kenyan ..so no ignorance at all . As for child like your Sticking up for anything Tai just because he rode for Wolves is akin to a 13 year old girl and hence why anything you say on subject is not important Woffinden wasn't eligible for Australia. It's that simple. That is where your childlike ignorance comes in. You've been told this many times, I've no doubt you actually know this, but prefer to ignore it to try and score points. Anyway, I hope the posts keep coming in from yourself and others abusing Woffinden for this decision as you are effectively abusing Peter Collins as well, you can't have one without the other... unless of course the real reason is nothing at all to do with being upset he is missing the British Final but purely a xenophobic hatred because Woffinden has the country he spent his childhood in close to his heart. As for your references to Wolves.. the keyword there is 'rode'.. he doesn't anymore, he's left Wolves in the lurch so why that would make me show allegiance to him is beyond me. If a rider is worthy of criticising, I'll criticise them, regardless of whom they rode for, Wolves riders are no exception. Edited March 31, 2016 by BWitcher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 To be honest I'm not 100% sure anymore, they seem to change it from year to year. Either way, it doesn't change the fact that Peter Collins skipped the British Final the moment he didn't 'need' to ride in it. No different from what Tai is doing now. Apologies but I made an edit in between posts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Apologies but I made an edit in between posts! I've seen it and it confirms my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 the best thing would be to put him on ignore along with all the halfwits who cannot debate their argument without the need for abuse of anyone who doesn't agree with them Oh, the irony. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 If the country's overall abilities speedway wise were reversed, IE the UK had a plethora of GP quality riders, but little domestic speedway and Australia were in the doldrums speedway wise, lots of opportunities, but nobody to step into those opportunities, would Tai, as he was living in Australia at the time, May well have gone for Aussie Citizenship, to quickly progress to the GP circus..... And left the UK well alone... Tell me if you think that scenario is in the realms of fantasy or not...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Peter Collins (1977) was seeded directly thru' to the inter-Continental Final (by-passing the British Final stage of the World Championship qualifying system) by the then authorities. A totally different scenario. Surely that, in itself, indicates that winning the British title isn't as significant as some people are trying to make us believe. The reason for the seeding would, presumably, have been to give a British rider a better chance of being World Champion. The thinking is not so different really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 If the country's overall abilities speedway wise were reversed, IE the UK had a plethora of GP quality riders, but little domestic speedway and Australia were in the doldrums speedway wise, lots of opportunities, but nobody to step into those opportunities, would Tai, as he was living in Australia at the time, May well have gone for Aussie Citizenship, to quickly progress to the GP circus..... And left the UK well alone... Tell me if you think that scenario is in the realms of fantasy or not...? Spot on... I remember at the time no one knowing would he ride for the GB or Aus ...it was quite clear that he could have got Aussie citizenship and gone that path Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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