iris123 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 I don't really see it quite the same as the warsaw situation,because now the Belle Vue management have themselves come out and said the track wasn't up to standards.The riders are off the hook.In Warsaw I don't think anyone other than the riders said the track wasn't suitable??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Joe, not a hint of an issue from watching the riders complete their practice. No adverse body language, shaking of heads, gesticulations etc.. No unusual 'coasting', all went full whack.. Which is why everyone at the track was amazed they never immediately came out for heat one once the last of the 16 had completed their laps.. Usually you at least sense an issue building.. Nothing on Saturday.... Edited March 21, 2016 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) I must admit, when I watched the link to Nicki P going round I was looking for an issue and couldn't see one at all. It's also strange all the riders appeared to be smiling, joking, taking in the occasion from the various pictures I've seen.. usually there are frowns etc when a postponement is likely. Edited March 21, 2016 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of clubs Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Regardless who was at fault for Saturday's unfortunate event, the statement put out by the governing body the BSPA/SCB is a stinging attack on the club. Every professional governing body should have said yes, we got it wrong and we will learn by it, and not savage the club and stick the knife in. It seems a venomous and hateful statement. I am sure had the events mentioned been at certain other clubs, who run the sport for their own ends, then the statement would have been very different. The real issue behind the sport being "set back ten years" is the violin case brigade bent bleeders at the governing body. It seems the guy at Kings Lynn has gone home and took ball in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry1603 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 There's going to be a lot of blame being issued over the next few weeks. I imagine it will be the lawyers who get rich as usual. The BSPA coming out with such a defamatory statement without being in possession of the full facts was unprofessional at best - and I'd venture to say that THEY have put the sport back because of their actions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Blimey whoever is at fault for the shambles,please step forward.This is going from bad to worse,you watch the buck is going to be passed from one sub contractor to another sub contractor,all the way down to the cleaner who hasnt started work yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 On the plus side.. There has been great national publicity... Even tonight on local MCR TV it beat the City/Utd derby as lead story... No publicity is bad publicity and all that... Even my staff at work mentioned it today!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytiger Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Wonder if the Contractors have measured the white lines on the centre green correctly . Think someone should give who ever will be playing on the pitch a caution call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Wonder if the Contractors have measured the white lines on the centre green correctly . Think someone should give who ever will be playing on the pitch a caution call. that pitch looks lovely in the pics, just wonder what it looks like when riders go across it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyd Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 So according to the BSPA / SGB the event on Saturday night was nothing to do with them because it was a domestic meeting and not a shared event. There dealings with the track stopped when they issued a licence to say the track met the required standards (I assume that means its oval shape not square, got a bit of shale on it and not totally tarmac or concrete and has a regulation safety fence / air fence and not a selection of balloons tied to the wire mesh and posts, ohh and its the right width) and with everything in place hand over your bond and we will give you a bit of numbered paper to say its ok. They have also stated that the whole problem lies at the feet of the the Belle Vue promotion, something that I'm sure the promotion have realised and understood. But what I don't understand is on one hand "its nothing to do with us" says the statement but on the other hand "A thorough investigation has already started". If its nothing to do with them why do they need a investigation into something that don't concern them / nothing to do with them? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 And they have apologised for something that wasn't their fault...? And something they had nothing to do with? Very strange indeed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 But what I don't understand is on one hand "its nothing to do with us" says the statement but on the other hand "A thorough investigation has already started". If its nothing to do with them why do they need a investigation into something that don't concern them / nothing to do with them? That would be because nowhere in the statement does it say "nothing to do with us" and in fact highlights the possible negative connections with rest of the sport a couple of times. The statement even makes an apology for the situation, something the Belle Vue promotion haven't yet had the decency to do. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a4poster Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Travelled up from Cornwall for this. Hotels, Rails fare etc.. Leaves a very sour taste in the mouth! Lifelong fan, severely disillusioned with the sport right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Travelled up from Cornwall for this. Hotels, Rails fare etc.. Leaves a very sour taste in the mouth! Lifelong fan, severely disillusioned with the sport right now. Feel for you mate, I turned down some late night fun with my girlfriend to travel to this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Feel for you mate, I turned down some late night fun with my girlfriend to travel to this. you"l just have to blow her up again later! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Feel for you mate, I turned down some late night fun with my girlfriend to travel to this.I'll bet she was a bit deflated! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Feel for you mate, I turned down some late night fun with my girlfriend to travel to this. Is she STILL helping you with your homework then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 I clicked on this thread with a certain trepidation having read the statement (and many comments - including some from past promoters!) on Facebook. As far as the statement goes, I feel it could have been much better worded and thought-through. For any association to totally blame one of its members and not offer its support and assistance in attempting to sort things out is not on - wherever the faults lay. As Phil the Ace says above, if the event had gone ahead without any problems, the BSPA would have been applauding one of their member clubs and be standing alongside them for all the congrats. As sorry as I feel for everyone that was there, I feel particularly sad for all the Aces fans. Yes, but that is not contradictory. Belle Vue would have got the kudos for the venture. It would then be hypocrisy to applaud Belle Vue's efforts, given what happened on Saturday and the days leading up to Saturday. BSPA or SCB seem like easy targets for some, when the mistakes were actually made elsewhere. that pitch looks lovely in the pics, just wonder what it looks like when riders go across it? Now outlawed that Colin. No short cuts for anyone to the tapes now, punishable by the meeting referee.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erniew Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Regarding the pre-meeting practice by the riders, Bomber reared violently on the 4th bend and the Newcastle manager was diving for cover as he thought he was about to catch him. That was the last of the 4 practice sessions and the track had obviously deteriorated markedly from Nikki's ride which was in the first one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 While I won't defend our club for saturday night I have a few gripes with busters statement. 1, I assume he will now be consistent and investigate when sky force riders to ride in dangerous conditions to get to heat 10 2, if and a big if it was a huge success Saturday I bet they wouldn't have distanced themselves away from belle vue and would have take part of the credits In the same way that if it had been a great success Gordon and Morton would have taken all the plaudits. When it went sour its all the contractors fault. Not surprisingly this is Warsaw all over again,everyone else's fault no one with the guts to stand up and except blame.In the case of Warsaw BSI and National Speedway Stadium the Belle Vue promoters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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