BuxtonTiger Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Fantastic, what can you say, they issue a licence for a track. However the state of the track is not taken into consideration, just the fittings round it. So the control board has already got its brush out and pushed everything under the carpet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 I wonder if Buster still has that Micky Mouse costume ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Although technically the statement is correct in that it wasn't a shared event, it's very disappointing, although totally predictable, that there was no mention of getting redress for the thousands of fans. Whatever anyone does it won't change anything but from a PR point of view much more could and should have been said, but as all BSPA members only have their own interests at heart I'm not surprised. Fans are very much a secondary consideration. Those surprised at Busters forthrightness obviously don't know him. He would never get a job in the diplomatic corps lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 While I won't defend our club for saturday night I have a few gripes with busters statement. 1, I assume he will now be consistent and investigate when sky force riders to ride in dangerous conditions to get to heat 10 2, if and a big if it was a huge success Saturday I bet they wouldn't have distanced themselves away from belle vue and would have take part of the credits 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Totally agree with you on point 1 Point 2 however is speculation. They would certainly have issued PRs praising it, I agree but not sure how they could take credit (can't believe I'm sort of defending them ) As a matter of interest were there any other promoters present on Saturday? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 BSPA Chairman Keith Chapman said: “This is a massive setback to the sport in this country and it can have a negative impact on every other club throughout the UK. I am not a media or PR guru but that line in particular seems incredibly poorly advised, to make such a reference once seems naïve but to also say “It’s an embarrassment and the rest of the sport in this country could be hit by it” is just irresponsible. Yes, I think a degree of responsibility has to be accepted, but not shared across the country, as Chairman of the sport there should be slightly more care shown regarding other member clubs IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 I clicked on this thread with a certain trepidation having read the statement (and many comments - including some from past promoters!) on Facebook. As far as the statement goes, I feel it could have been much better worded and thought-through. For any association to totally blame one of its members and not offer its support and assistance in attempting to sort things out is not on - wherever the faults lay. As Phil the Ace says above, if the event had gone ahead without any problems, the BSPA would have been applauding one of their member clubs and be standing alongside them for all the congrats. As sorry as I feel for everyone that was there, I feel particularly sad for all the Aces fans. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Stronger as a Group, Weaker as Individuals - as usual the BSPA adopt an opposite stance. Whilst this is simply a statement from the Promoters Association, the report from the SCB inquiry must provide some explanations and answers. Dave Gordon, Chris Morton & Colin Meredith, maybe rightly, will be feeling particularly isolated right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Talk about Pulling up the drawbridge. I would assume that after a massive cock up like this Morton and Gordon will do the honourable thing ? Oops I was forgetting this is Speedway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Talk about Pulling up the drawbridge. I would assume that after a massive cock up like this Morton and Gordon will do the honourable thing ? Oops I was forgetting this is Speedway. What would that be? Resign? What good would that do? It would probably end up in closure of the speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) The point is had the meeting gone ahead would BV speedway said hang on lets split the money with the BSPA ? NO -so why would the BSPA want anything to do with this shambles - sorry Bspa got it spot on Edited March 21, 2016 by Haza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 What would that be? Resign? What good would that do? It would probably end up in closure of the speedway. As indeed might bankruptcy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Stronger as a Group, Weaker as Individuals - as usual the BSPA adopt an opposite stance. Whilst this is simply a statement from the Promoters Association, the report from the SCB inquiry must provide some explanations and answers. Dave Gordon, Chris Morton & Colin Meredith, maybe rightly, will be feeling particularly isolated right now. This is the first time that I have seen Colin Meredith`s name mentioned- he used to be responsible for the track at Kirkmanshulme lane (2015 ?) Did Colin have any involvement with the new track ? If he did - he is also the SCB track inspector- so would have been in the ideal position to tell the Belle Vue promotion of any shortcomings with the track. Did the Promoters not listen to him ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 FURROW Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 This is the first time that I have seen Colin Meredith`s name mentioned- he used to be responsible for the track at Kirkmanshulme lane (2015 ?) Did Colin have any involvement with the new track ? If he did - he is also the SCB track inspector- so would have been in the ideal position to tell the Belle Vue promotion of any shortcomings with the track. Did the Promoters not listen to him ?You can bet your bottom dollar they didn't want to listen to him but if is the SCB track inspector and he passed it only 24 hours before it was called off he wants sacking from his position straight away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 BRITISH Speedway Chairman has confirmed the BSPA are to launch a full investigation into events surrounding the cancellation.The meeting was cancelled due to an unfit track - something which the Chairman admits was "totally unacceptable".He said: "The first thing to say is to apologise to the many supporters who paid good money to see the event which had a superb line-up."It is also not the start anyone wanted."I can understand totally the anger of supporters and, of course, we offer our sincere apologies to everyone who was inconvenienced."We will now carry out a full investigation to establish why this totally unacceptable situation was allowed to develop and will comment further when this investigation has been concluded." This was following the BSPA promoted ELRC farce at Coventry in 2014, so at least they will know how to efficiently help in dealing with the situation at Belle Vue. Did anyone get the hotels, parking, drinks, sausage rolls and programmes refunded as if so then it could help to resolve the Belle Vue refunds in the same way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry1603 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 ........................ with friends like those................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 This is the first time that I have seen Colin Meredith`s name mentioned- he used to be responsible for the track at Kirkmanshulme lane (2015 ?) Did Colin have any involvement with the new track ? If he did - he is also the SCB track inspector- so would have been in the ideal position to tell the Belle Vue promotion of any shortcomings with the track. Did the Promoters not listen to him ? Colin Meredith is, I understand, the track curator appointed by the promotion at the National Speedway Stadium. The SCB have two Track Inspectors, Colin Merdith and Alan Bridgett. I am unaware which of the two conducted the track inspection at the NSS to issue the necessary certificate. This should be reported in the SCB inquiry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry1603 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Colin Meredith is, I understand, the track curator appointed by the promotion at the National Speedway Stadium. The SCB have two Track Inspectors, Colin Merdith and Alan Bridgett. I am unaware which of the two conducted the track inspection at the NSS to issue the necessary certificate. This should be reported in the SCB inquiry. Surely Colin Meredith cannot do a track inspection on a track he has prepared himself? He's hardly likely to say it's unfit and it leaves him susceptable to pressure from his employers (Belle Vue) to allow the meeting to go ahead. I'm not suggesting that he would in any sense, be the opportunity would be there. Edited March 21, 2016 by Garry1603 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Colin Meredith is, I understand, the track curator appointed by the promotion at the National Speedway Stadium. The SCB have two Track Inspectors, Colin Merdith and Alan Bridgett. I am unaware which of the two conducted the track inspection at the NSS to issue the necessary certificate. This should be reported in the SCB inquiry. Apologies -yes they do have 2 inspectors. As the statement has said licensing the track does not actually cover the racing surface. - however in the past I`m sure that the afore mentioned have been called on to inspect/advise on "dodgy tracks" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 What a rubbish statement. If I was Belle Vue I'd be straight on the phone to Chapman telling him if he's got nothing constructive to say, then shut the *** up. Belle Vue are very shortly going to have the best speedway facility in the UK, thanks to the promotions work. Yes, Saturday was a disaster, but Speedway GB should have involved themselves more proactively in the last stages, because if this somehow affects the whole of UK Speedway, then the stadium being built affects the whole of UK speedway in a positive way. Get real, learn, move on, be supportive to a member club which has done all this work. Unless there is something they are not telling us about the build up to the meeting? Unimpressed by Chapman so far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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