racers and royals Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Throughly enjoyed my days speedway action at Poole and Somerset yesterday- saw some good action( mainly at Somerset). The highlight of the day has to be meeting Starman 2006 I`m sure I heard Matt telling him to keep the good work up on the BSF I didn`t however meet Skidder 1 - or did i !!!! ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 yes Mark did want to stay at Poole I agree with you and yes he wasn't best pleased. But as I say Tony rode for more money than Mark was offered. Maybe Ford thought Tony was worth more than Mark and being truthful he was. Just don't like people lying that Mark was offered or wanted more than Rickardsson. Everyone has a value In all fairness to Norrie, I think he was only doing his best from a managers point of view, Mark may not have what he as now if it wasn't for Norrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 My God, there are some sour gits on here...Poole won comfortably, that's a fact. Poole built their team to the points limit within the rules, another fact. Every promoter in the league had access to every available rider just like Poole, another fact. A number of the other teams built their team poorly, yet another fact. Matt Ford has pulled absolutely NO strokes so far, a big fat fact. So for once us genuine Poole supporters have a lot (and every right) to celebrate. GO PIRATES!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) My God, there are some sour gits on here...Poole won comfortably, that's a fact. Poole built their team to the points limit within the rules, another fact. Every promoter in the league had access to every available rider just like Poole, another fact. A number of the other teams built their team poorly, yet another fact. Matt Ford has pulled absolutely NO strokes so far, a big fat fact. So for once us genuine Poole supporters have a lot (and every right) to celebrate. GO PIRATES!!! i agree with 99% of what you write and nothing wrong with enjoying winning, however the gloating needs to be toned down a bit. The sport is on its knees and one team thrashing the others doesnt help the sport. The elite league looks like being the most boring it has ever been and the sport as a whole is suffering. The other teams look like a premier league side from about 5 years ago, not the standard of a so called elite league. As i say Ipswich , my team, thrashed everyone in 1998. The racing on the most part was dull with 5-1 after 5-1 and i was one of many who simply didnt bother going to the meetings against much weaker sides when i knew i was going to watch processional racing. The sport itself suffers if one or even 2 teams are so much further ahead than the others. Poole get decent crowds, i know that, but how many are going to bother going to watch Poole rack up 60 points against the majority of sides? I pick and choose my meetings now due to cost and i wont bother watching Ipswich against say Redcar or Rye House , but when Glasgow are in town with that strong top 4 i will be there. Must be the same for Poole if Leicester or Lakeside are there the crowd wont be as big for when Belle Vue are in town Edited March 26, 2016 by Gavan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) I think you may be getting paranoid. My impression is that virtuality nobody has said that the Poole team this year is not built within the rules. It's not necessarily true that everyone had access to every available rider, they first have to get permission from whoever holds their contact and we don't know if that permission has been given to every promoter that asked. It may have been but we don't know. A number of teams have built poorly but the obvious difficulty this year has been that the points limit was set too high because of a lack of quality riders willing to race here. The main complaint and it is generally aimed at the BSPA, not Poole, is that the grading of the draft riders should have been based on their EL averages with an assessed average for the few riders who did not have an EL average. It is plain to see that basing them on PL averages was nonsensical and has given Poole an advantage. I have seen numerous posts from Poole fans claiming that Newman was the best or second best draft rider last year and most fans of other clubs would agree with that. Placing him sixth on the list has given Poole an unfair advantage because it gave them a chance to make a better second pick. That was not Poole's fault but it has created an uneven playing field. Edited March 26, 2016 by Aces51 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) i agree with 99% of what you write and nothing wrong with enjoying winning, however the gloating needs to be toned down a bit. The sport is on its knees and one team thrashing the others doesnt help the sport. The elite league looks like being the most boring it has ever been and the sport as a whole is suffering. The other teams look like a premier league side from about 5 years ago, not the standard of a so called elite league. As i say Ipswich , my team, thrashed everyone in 1998. The racing on the most part was dull with 5-1 after 5-1 and i was one of many who simply didnt bother going to the meetings against much weaker sides when i knew i was going to watch processional racing. The sport itself suffers if one or even 2 teams are so much further ahead than the others. Poole get decent crowds, i know that, but how many are going to bother going to watch Poole rack up 60 points against the majority of sides? I pick and choose my meetings now due to cost and i wont bother watching Ipswich against say Redcar or Rye House , but when Glasgow are in town with that strong top 4 i will be there. Must be the same for Poole if Leicester or Lakeside are there the crowd wont be as big for when Belle Vue are in town Not everyone is like you Gavan! Some fans like big wins and some don't. Some fans absolutely hate it when their team loses, so winning big deals with it. Oh and who is gloating? Don't say Starman cos nobody listens anyway Edited March 26, 2016 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Think you will find it was Norrie Allen not Mark asking for a kings ransom! Yep thats correct mate.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 i agree with 99% of what you write and nothing wrong with enjoying winning, however the gloating needs to be toned down a bit. The sport is on its knees and one team thrashing the others doesnt help the sport. The elite league looks like being the most boring it has ever been and the sport as a whole is suffering. The other teams look like a premier league side from about 5 years ago, not the standard of a so called elite league. As i say Ipswich , my team, thrashed everyone in 1998. The racing on the most part was dull with 5-1 after 5-1 and i was one of many who simply didnt bother going to the meetings against much weaker sides when i knew i was going to watch processional racing. The sport itself suffers if one or even 2 teams are so much further ahead than the others. Poole get decent crowds, i know that, but how many are going to bother going to watch Poole rack up 60 points against the majority of sides? I pick and choose my meetings now due to cost and i wont bother watching Ipswich against say Redcar or Rye House , but when Glasgow are in town with that strong top 4 i will be there. Must be the same for Poole if Leicester or Lakeside are there the crowd wont be as big for when Belle Vue are in town I totally agree with you watching such a strong team against weaker team is not for me either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 .......chris4gillian..............Every promoter in the league had access to every available rider just like Poole, another fact. So it's fact that every promoter had access to Rick Frost's asset Buczkowski? Yeah right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 So it's fact that every promoter had access to Rick Frost's asset Buczkowski? Yeah right. You heard it here... But nevermind Eh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 What does that mean ~ you heard it here? You'll have to try to talk sense so I can understand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdakev Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Unfortunately Swindon have a premier league and Jason Doyle. Take Doyle out and they wouldn't win the premier league. We were informed that Swindon would use their own assets so why not use Mads instead of Tungate ?, Would have made the team look stronger. Swindon will struggle this year unless changes are made. People have been saying it's a team of Racers well that wasn't evident yesterday. Like a lot of supporters I will pick and choose when I go this season and you may say that is not a true supporter well the team is not a true elite league team. It cost me a lot of money with my wife and 3 boys going. Rant over ! Well done to Poole yesterday and well done to Matt for again producing a league winning side. If only we could do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 What does that mean ~ you heard it here? You'll have to try to talk sense so I can understand. Anybody could have signed Buzz. But nobody was interested, That shows you the state of other clubs. They don't have the ambition or forsight, and people moan because we dominate.Matt makes the rest look like school kids. Well done to Poole yesterday and well done to Matt for again producing a league winning side. If only we could do the same. Mate any club could do the same, they just have to have a little ambition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Starman2006............Anybody could have signed Buzz. But nobody was interested, That shows you the state of other clubs. They don't have the ambition or forsight, and people moan because we dominate.Matt makes the rest look like school kids. Well, I'm impressed you know the difference between 'have' and 'of'' but otherwise don't believe he was on any list as available to ride. Do you have a link to this list of riders so I can check and apologise for being wrong? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 i think what people are saying starman(probably rightly)is that in effect buzz was a "poole asset" and not available to everyone.but you are right in this years league hes a suberb signing on that average 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Well, thanks for the sensible answer. I think Starman is still searching for the list....or more than likely just ignoring a question that he finds difficult to answer like he usually does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Buzz was as good as a Poole asset with Frost on board so it's highly unlikely he would have signed for anyone else. Plus I haven't heard one promoter saying they tried to sign him but were denied . I believe Poole were the only team that wanted him despite him being near enough a Poole asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Buzz was as good as a Poole asset with Frost on board so it's highly unlikely he would have signed for anyone else. Plus I haven't heard one promoter saying they tried to sign him but were denied . I believe Poole were the only team that wanted him despite him being near enough a Poole asset. Swindon may have after Dak pulled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Buzz was as good as a Poole asset with Frost on board so it's highly unlikely he would have signed for anyone else. Plus I haven't heard one promoter saying they tried to sign him but were denied . I believe Poole were the only team that wanted him despite him being near enough a Poole asset. He wasn't a poole asset. So anybody could have signed him, but nobody bothered. Your not likely to hear if anybody else wanted him, are you. Again a case of Promoters burying there heads in the sand. But im sure there will be plenty of excusses for other clubs short comings, there normally is.. Edited March 26, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 dont want to watch a season of one sided matches,want a few last heat deciders! You've got a long season ahead of you Poole Keith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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