foreverblue Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 stop talking out your backside you pillock! Why in gods name would Lakeside or Wolves go for him??? Leicester and other clubs simply sont have the finances available to afford the riders that Poole can which has been the case for years right back to when Rickardsson was offered a fortune to replace Mark Loram. Yes Matt Ford is good at business but get your head out of the arse of your club and realise there are other teams, I'm sure you won't be happy until there is just 1 club left who own every rider. Most Poole fans on here we can take. You are an imbecileRickardsson was only signed because Loram wanted a kings ransom to sign. It was said at the time Rickardsson was cheaper than Loram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Rickardsson was only signed because Loram wanted a kings ransom to sign. It was said at the time Rickardsson was cheaper than Loram Mark sadly priced himself out and Matt had no choice but to replace him. At the time it was a shame, but you are right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Like others I made Poole pre season favourites to win this seasons Elite league. I will go as far to say they have a good chance of going through the whole season unbeaten, home and away. The speedway 'invincibles' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Oh now you tell me. I've been tiddling and winking all night In private I hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Like others I made Poole pre season favourites to win this seasons Elite league. I will go as far to say they have a good chance of going through the whole season unbeaten, home and away. The speedway 'invincibles' Yes and how boring it is, unless you are a Poole fan of course, but I suppose their supporters will be happy watching visiting teams struggle to get over 30 points. Personally I prefer a bit of excitement and not a foregone conclusion. For instance tonight's match at Coventry when it was 36-36 after 12 races so the result could go either way. In the end a couple of 4-2's and a 5-1 saw the Bees come out on top after some cracking racing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Looks like it will cost Poole a good few quid in points money this year.. Luckily they have the fan levels to support it.. Be interesting to see though if that is still the case after a couple of months of '60-30's every week, which could easily happen given the level of many of the other teams... Not having a go at Poole by the way, they have put a team together that is within the same limit every team worked to. However I would suggest that it will soon be pretty evident that their 'real level' is well ahead of the 'theoretical level' that someone came up with using I presume some kind of calculus for team building purposes... The problem the sport has is that this 'theoretical level' number will be used all year for teams to 'strengthen up' even though a team can be miles in front of this number. Ultimately meaning hardly any real strengthening takes place at all, as it's more 'tweaking with cosmetic changes' rather than "with this team we can win the league changes" that many teams often find they need to keep an increasingly disenchanted fanbase turning up weekly.. Maybe finances, and/or rider apathy to riding over here, may dictate that teams can never turn their season around, but the system should exist to allow a team to improve up to the level of 'the best' if they could.. That could only make for a more competitive league surely? Reading the many 'from the gate', 'pirates gated in front' comments, and the massive margin of victory, I wonder how many of the as quoted 'huge crowd' will be enticed back the next time Swindon are in town? Especially when they have been, by then, potentially not the only ones to turn up and offer meagre resistance...? Edited March 26, 2016 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Rickardsson was only signed because Loram wanted a kings ransom to sign. It was said at the time Rickardsson was cheaper than Loram Mark sadly priced himself out and Matt had no choice but to replace him. At the time it was a shame, but you are right...foreverblue you know more about Poole speedway than me by a country mile and we all know Starman knows nothing. As I've said before I know the Loram family and his old mechanic Jorge is also a good friend of the family. My uncle used to sponsor Mark at Hackney at Ipswich and a bit at Kings Lynn. We have his race jacket from his epic British Final win in the run off versus Louis. Also Mark came to both my aunty and uncles funerals. Matt Ford is a businessman and a very good one. He pays his riders what he wishes. I can 100% tell you that Mark asked for more money (or should I say Norrie did) and Poole refused to pay it. Mark then wouldn't sign so Poole went and got Tony. I can also tell you that they paid Rickardsson more than what Mark was asking for that is a fact. As I say Foreverblue you know more about Poole speedway than I could ever wish to know but with things to do with Mark I am in the know. The line was that Tony rode for less than Mark wanted. He didn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Perhaps just perhaps having the owners of Andersen and Buzz's contracts helped a wee bit in making sure those two ended up at Poole...makes you wonder really if anyone else did have any chance whatsoever to sigh either of them? And another thing having Buzz classed down as a second string may have just helped Poole this year also....we all know he's far more than a 6 point rider despite his false average 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 foreverblue you know more about Poole speedway than me by a country mile and we all know Starman knows nothing. As I've said before I know the Loram family and his old mechanic Jorge is also a good friend of the family. My uncle used to sponsor Mark at Hackney at Ipswich and a bit at Kings Lynn. We have his race jacket from his epic British Final win in the run off versus Louis. Also Mark came to both my aunty and uncles funerals. Matt Ford is a businessman and a very good one. He pays his riders what he wishes. I can 100% tell you that Mark asked for more money (or should I say Norrie did) and Poole refused to pay it. Mark then wouldn't sign so Poole went and got Tony. I can also tell you that they paid Rickardsson more than what Mark was asking for that is a fact. As I say Foreverblue you know more about Poole speedway than I could ever wish to know but with things to do with Mark I am in the know. The line was that Tony rode for less than Mark wanted. He didn't. There is no way in hell Loram was more expensive than Rickardsson, only a fool would suggest he was. Reigning champ or not. Rickardsson was the better league rider and worth more money. Loram cant of been that expensive as he ended up at Pboro that season did he not? Swindon need to try and tempt shamek pawlicki in to replace one of the second strings, probably tungate. If he fits. Crying out for a second HL. The team will, imo, be figting with leicester for the bottom spot otherwise. Can Kildemand not be tempted back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 A marriage made in heaven eh ........ the rest of the BEL will just have to keep trying to match up to the might of Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Well I enjoyed that yesterday even with the one sided match that took place. Only Doyle, Grajczonek and to a lesser extent Wright who I thought was unlucky on a few occasions put up any resistance to Poole. Why do they persist on using a different format to the PL though? There is no need for it anymore with the current draft riders in place. Tungate and Morris should hang their heads in shame, Morris especially who was pathetic. Poole should breeze to another league title though, especially once Brady gets going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Mark sadly priced himself out and Matt had no choice but to replace him. At the time it was a shame, but you are right... Think you will find it was Norrie Allen not Mark asking for a kings ransom! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Think only the educated ones know that Rickardsson was more expensive than Loram it doesn't take a doctor bleeding spock to work that out does it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Mark sadly priced himself out and Matt had no choice but to replace him. At the time it was a shame, but you are right... No Mark didnt price himself out. Norrie Allan asked for more money and Poole turned it down, then they signed Tony for more money than Mark wanted. There is no way in hell Loram was more expensive than Rickardsson, only a fool would suggest he was. Reigning champ or not. Rickardsson was the better league rider and worth more money. Loram cant of been that expensive as he ended up at Pboro that season did he not? Swindon need to try and tempt shamek pawlicki in to replace one of the second strings, probably tungate. If he fits. Crying out for a second HL. The team will, imo, be figting with leicester for the bottom spot otherwise. Can Kildemand not be tempted back? Exactly. Poole paid Tony more then Mark wanted. Think you will find it was Norrie Allen not Mark asking for a kings ransom! Spot on! Think only the educated ones know that Rickardsson was more expensive than Loram it doesn't take a doctor bleeding spock to work that out does it I dont know much about Poole speedway but as i say i know the Loram family well and i know exactly what happened and Tony was paid more than what Norrie wanted Poole to pay Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 I heard rumours about how much Tony was on and it was a hell of a lot!! (if they were true of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) No Mark didnt price himself out. Norrie Allan asked for more money and Poole turned it down, then they signed Tony for more money than Mark wanted. Exactly. Poole paid Tony more then Mark wanted. Spot on! I dont know much about Poole speedway but as i say i know the Loram family well and i know exactly what happened and Tony was paid more than what Norrie wanted Poole to pay Mark You will also know then how upset Mark Loram was with Norrie that he didn't allow a deal to be done!! Edited March 26, 2016 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightime Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 This suggests that only Poole are capable of finding "hidden treasure" within the system (Pirates are naturally inclined to hidden treasure!) but the fact is that opportunities are the same for all teams - it takes hard work and good negotiating skills - but anyone can do it if they apply themselves. The problem the sport has is that this 'theoretical level' number will be used all year for teams to 'strengthen up' even though a team can be miles in front of this number. Ultimately meaning hardly any real strengthening takes place at all, as it's more 'tweaking with cosmetic changes' rather than "with this team we can win the league changes" that many teams often find they need to keep an increasingly disenchanted fanbase turning up weekly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 If Krzysztof Buczkowski was available on 6.48 and not one club approached him before Poole, then it's little wonder everyone will be blown away by the Pirates again this year. Another astute piece of team building from the red hot favorites... Apparently he wasn't available to anyone else, he is a Rick Frost asset after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 all our little group(front row seats between start and first bend)had a very enjoyable afternoon however it was tempered by all of us fearing a possible very boring home campaign,can certainly see" b" fixtures being skipped if the "a" match is as onesided as this,holidaymakers will of course turn up irrespective.cant ever remember poole having a good racestrip it just varies between ok and poor,yesterday the riders didnt seem to happy,holder saying in the post match interview that it was very difficult and he was glad to get out of the meeting in one piece,and anderson also saying he was just glad to stay in one piece.middlo and the clerk of the course on the centregreen after the match head to head for 10 mins with plenty of armwaving and finger pointing.swindon were very very poor but in some races the swindon riders just couldnt get round the track.lakeside next wow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 You will also know then how upset Mark Loram was with Norrie that he didn't allow a deal to be done!!yes Mark did want to stay at Poole I agree with you and yes he wasn't best pleased. But as I say Tony rode for more money than Mark was offered. Maybe Ford thought Tony was worth more than Mark and being truthful he was. Just don't like people lying that Mark was offered or wanted more than Rickardsson. Everyone has a value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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