stevebrum Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 He wasn't a poole asset. So anybody could have signed him, but nobody bothered. Your not likely to hear if anybody else wanted him, are you. Again a case of Promoters burying there heads in the sand. But im sure there will be plenty of excusses for other clubs short comings, there normally is.. Thought he was an asset of frost who is now involved with Poole? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 i agree with 99% of what you write and nothing wrong with enjoying winning, however the gloating needs to be toned down a bit. The sport is on its knees and one team thrashing the others doesnt help the sport. The elite league looks like being the most boring it has ever been and the sport as a whole is suffering. The other teams look like a premier league side from about 5 years ago, not the standard of a so called elite league. As i say Ipswich , my team, thrashed everyone in 1998. The racing on the most part was dull with 5-1 after 5-1 and i was one of many who simply didnt bother going to the meetings against much weaker sides when i knew i was going to watch processional racing. The sport itself suffers if one or even 2 teams are so much further ahead than the others. Poole get decent crowds, i know that, but how many are going to bother going to watch Poole rack up 60 points against the majority of sides? I pick and choose my meetings now due to cost and i wont bother watching Ipswich against say Redcar or Rye House , but when Glasgow are in town with that strong top 4 i will be there. Must be the same for Poole if Leicester or Lakeside are there the crowd wont be as big for when Belle Vue are in town Swindon are a Premier league team of this season plus Jason Doyle, Gavan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 He wasn't a poole asset. So anybody could have signed him, but nobody bothered. Your not likely to hear if anybody else wanted him, are you. Again a case of Promoters burying there heads in the sand. But im sure there will be plenty of excusses for other clubs short comings, there normally is..dear oh dear you have been told so many times about being a pillock yet you still carry on trotting out the same tripe. Buck is an asset of Frost who is involved with Poole. Now even though you never seem to have the family brain cell I think even you can put 2 and 2 together and see how he ended up at Poole. Quite clearly if Poole wanted Buck he was pretty much likely to line up for them. So please stop waffling on with the same old line of anyone could have had him. In reality his destination was always likely to be only 1 club Swindon are a Premier league team of this season plus Jason Doyle, Gavan.its a sad state of affairs the way speedway has fallen in this country. The elite league teams have 1 genuine world class rider, then 2 hear leaders who are just about number ones in the premier league followed by second strings who would struggle to be a heat leader in the premier league. Apart from one team whose second strings are the Aussie champion and a rider who is quite clearly a heat leader. And people think I'm going overboard when I say the elite league is watered down and will be the most boring season ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightime Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Genuine question - why did Swindon let Zengota go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 dear oh dear you have been told so many times about being a pillock yet you still carry on trotting out the same tripe. Buck is an asset of Frost who is involved with Poole. Now even though you never seem to have the family brain cell I think even you can put 2 and 2 together and see how he ended up at Poole. Quite clearly if Poole wanted Buck he was pretty much likely to line up for them. So please stop waffling on with the same old line of anyone could have had him. In reality his destination was always likely to be only 1 clubits a sad state of affairs the way speedway has fallen in this country. The elite league teams have 1 genuine world class rider, then 2 hear leaders who are just about number ones in the premier league followed by second strings who would struggle to be a heat leader in the premier league. Apart from one team whose second strings are the Aussie champion and a rider who is quite clearly a heat leader. And people think I'm going overboard when I say the elite league is watered down and will be the most boring season ever Don't you ever get tired of being rude and abusive? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Don't you ever get tired of being rude and abusive? is it rude to say the elite league looks boring? Go back over my posts. Ive only called the one person a pillock and that is what everyone on here thinks of him. Oh and I will call him what I want as he told me to go out and play with the traffic so if he can dish it out but cant take it im not bothered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorset delight Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 is it rude to say the elite league looks boring? Go back over my posts. Ive only called the one person a pillock and that is what everyone on here thinks of him. Oh and I will call him what I want as he told me to go out and play with the traffic so if he can dish it out but cant take it im not bothered Grow up FFS same old boring posts over and over again Just ignore Starman like everyone else,if you can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Grow up FFS same old boring posts over and over again Just ignore Starman like everyone else,if you can. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 i agree with 99% of what you write and nothing wrong with enjoying winning, however the gloating needs to be toned down a bit. The sport is on its knees and one team thrashing the others doesnt help the sport. The elite league looks like being the most boring it has ever been and the sport as a whole is suffering. The other teams look like a premier league side from about 5 years ago, not the standard of a so called elite league. As i say Ipswich , my team, thrashed everyone in 1998. The racing on the most part was dull with 5-1 after 5-1 and i was one of many who simply didnt bother going to the meetings against much weaker sides when i knew i was going to watch processional racing. The sport itself suffers if one or even 2 teams are so much further ahead than the others. Poole get decent crowds, i know that, but how many are going to bother going to watch Poole rack up 60 points against the majority of sides? I pick and choose my meetings now due to cost and i wont bother watching Ipswich against say Redcar or Rye House , but when Glasgow are in town with that strong top 4 i will be there. Must be the same for Poole if Leicester or Lakeside are there the crowd wont be as big for when Belle Vue are in town I know this is the Poole topic but regarding your comments on Rye House, tell you what was well impressed at Somerset on Friday, look a decent side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 foreverblue you know more about Poole speedway than me by a country mile and we all know Starman knows nothing. As I've said before I know the Loram family and his old mechanic Jorge is also a good friend of the family. My uncle used to sponsor Mark at Hackney at Ipswich and a bit at Kings Lynn. We have his race jacket from his epic British Final win in the run off versus Louis. Also Mark came to both my aunty and uncles funerals. Matt Ford is a businessman and a very good one. He pays his riders what he wishes. I can 100% tell you that Mark asked for more money (or should I say Norrie did) and Poole refused to pay it. Mark then wouldn't sign so Poole went and got Tony. I can also tell you that they paid Rickardsson more than what Mark was asking for that is a fact. As I say Foreverblue you know more about Poole speedway than I could ever wish to know but with things to do with Mark I am in the know. The line was that Tony rode for less than Mark wanted. He didn't.Yes i accept you know more about Mark Loram than me and i accept that Rickardsson was paid more and wow was he worth it but it was sad at the time that Norrie Allen ruined the deal by his own greed. Always loved Mark riding for Poole so exciting to watch never seemed quite the same rider after that but always be welcome at Poole. Great rider and a lovely bloke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Swindon are a Premier league team of this season plus Jason Doyle, Gavan. After riding for Leicester last season Jason will be used to carrying the side unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Grow up FFS same old boring posts over and over again Just ignore Starman like everyone else,if you can. i apologise it's just that the guy winds me up with his daft comments. Please accept though that I have not once slagged off Ford or Poole , I just feel that it's the worst elite league ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 i apologise it's just that the guy winds me up with his daft comments. Please accept though that I have not once slagged off Ford or Poole , I just feel that it's the worst elite league ever Yes we get that, it's just the fact you feel the need to point it out non stop that gets tedious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 i apologise it's just that the guy winds me up with his daft comments. Please accept though that I have not once slagged off Ford or Poole , I just feel that it's the worst elite league ever So its not anti Ford or anti Poole yet you choose to make your anti Elite comments on a Poole thread. Let me just check the Lakeside v Kings Lynn thread after the 56-36 'hammering' on Friday for any similar comments?! Oh guess what - not a sign of anything similar nor any threads started by you about the EL and 'how bad you believe it to be'?! ps. I hope you enjoyed the Ippo v Scunny meeting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 I didn't post on the Lakeside thread because Lakeside will not win and thrash people in most of their matches like Poole will is it that hard to understand? And no i didn't enjoy the Ipswich v Scunny match because the track was awful with no dirt. Don't have an issue losing I like to see good racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 i apologise it's just that the guy winds me up with his daft comments. Please accept though that I have not once slagged off Ford or Poole , I just feel that it's the worst elite league ever Are you for real? How old are you 7? You be careful, Starman might just post something else in the near future....hold on tightly to your toys.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 So it's fact that every promoter had access to Rick Frost's asset Buczkowski? Yeah right. I actually said, every promoter had access to every available rider. If Buzz isn't included within that then my statement \s written is correct i agree with 99% of what you write and nothing wrong with enjoying winning, however the gloating needs to be toned down a bit. The sport is on its knees and one team thrashing the others doesnt help the sport. The elite league looks like being the most boring it has ever been and the sport as a whole is suffering. The other teams look like a premier league side from about 5 years ago, not the standard of a so called elite league. As i say Ipswich , my team, thrashed everyone in 1998. The racing on the most part was dull with 5-1 after 5-1 and i was one of many who simply didnt bother going to the meetings against much weaker sides when i knew i was going to watch processional racing. The sport itself suffers if one or even 2 teams are so much further ahead than the others. Poole get decent crowds, i know that, but how many are going to bother going to watch Poole rack up 60 points against the majority of sides? I pick and choose my meetings now due to cost and i wont bother watching Ipswich against say Redcar or Rye House , but when Glasgow are in town with that strong top 4 i will be there. Must be the same for Poole if Leicester or Lakeside are there the crowd wont be as big for when Belle Vue are in town No gloating here fella, but there is no reason why we shouldn't celebrate a convincing win - be it against a 'top' team or a 'weaker' team. Every sport has stronger and weaker teams, riders, drivers or individuals. The fact that Poole are strong this season when some other teams are not is not Poole's problem. The BSPA and all teams as a collective have made the league weaker year on year, not Poole. And you know I don't stand for some of the strokes Matt Ford has pulled, however this season he's pulled a cracking team out of the bag when others haven't. Oh and your comments regarding Newman are so very wide of the mark and Garrity will NEVER ride for Team GB as he's not or will ever be good enough. Unfortunately Swindon have a premier league and Jason Doyle. Take Doyle out and they wouldn't win the premier league. We were informed that Swindon would use their own assets so why not use Mads instead of Tungate ?, Would have made the team look stronger. Swindon will struggle this year unless changes are made. People have been saying it's a team of Racers well that wasn't evident yesterday. Like a lot of supporters I will pick and choose when I go this season and you may say that is not a true supporter well the team is not a true elite league team. It cost me a lot of money with my wife and 3 boys going. Rant over ! Well done to Poole yesterday and well done to Matt for again producing a league winning side. If only we could do the same. An honest assessment, well done that man (I assume!). Buzz was as good as a Poole asset with Frost on board so it's highly unlikely he would have signed for anyone else. Plus I haven't heard one promoter saying they tried to sign him but were denied . I believe Poole were the only team that wanted him despite him being near enough a Poole asset. Good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 I don't think Garrity will ride for GB either but at that level he is way ahead of Newman for selection. Higher Elite league average, Higher Premier league average. British Final record far superior and possibly should have made a rostrum. Was reserve and had a ride in a GP. Now Garrity wants to make the next step up and race in a 1-5 and put himself against better riders. Newman currently is racing against EDR riders that he is superior to. No GB manager would select a rider who is happy to beat the likes of Sargeant and Bates , basically premier league second strings, over a rider who wants to better himself. What sort of experience is Newman gaining? None! Kyle is the more stylish of the 2 but he is not even close to ever being taken seriously as a rider for the national side. He will though riding in the Poole team win another title but its not doing much for his own career 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Winning a load of trophies is not doing much for his career??! Ha. Will any of them get a trophy for team GB, not bloomin' likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 I don't think Garrity will ride for GB either but at that level he is way ahead of Newman for selection. Higher Elite league average, Higher Premier league average. British Final record far superior and possibly should have made a rostrum. Was reserve and had a ride in a GP. Now Garrity wants to make the next step up and race in a 1-5 and put himself against better riders. Newman currently is racing against EDR riders that he is superior to. No GB manager would select a rider who is happy to beat the likes of Sargeant and Bates , basically premier league second strings, over a rider who wants to better himself. What sort of experience is Newman gaining? None! Kyle is the more stylish of the 2 but he is not even close to ever being taken seriously as a rider for the national side. He will though riding in the Poole team win another title but its not doing much for his own career Isn't Newman currently in Poland at the moment and riding tomorrow for Pila in their fist league meeting of the season? Which Polish team is Garrity riding for this season? He must have one as in your opinion he is way better than Newman. The Polish clubs must have been ringing his phone off the hook. Your assesmentnof Garrity over Newman is absolutely miles off target. Kyle will be up in the team in the next rew weeks and gaining further experience. A team rider who put his local club first even though he wanted to be in the 1-5. Can the same be said of Garrity, who I hold no grudge and want to succeed? His determination to be in the Coventry 1-5 has cost his club any chance of trophies this season. Or is Newman much more 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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