Halifaxtiger Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Not at all ...they should have never been a meeting or should they have let the fans let in ....by all accounts they knew the track was not ready it's hardly a secret ...the buck lies with them and them only . Harris said the track was rideable. If so, why didn't they ride it ? Edited March 19, 2016 by Halifaxtiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) I wonder if 16 NL riders would have turned out in front of 6000 fans? (Think I can guess the answer) I also wonder if £100k was the first prize whether the riders tonight would have given it a go...? (Think I definitely know the answer) Surely given the occasion a bit of common sense could have prevailed? Agree to take the 3rd and 4th turns like a 'yellow flag' in other Motorsports with no passing...? When I saw Max and Richie practice on Friday morning they didn't seem to have any issues... A huge set back for the sport and the Aces in particular... Think it only right to name those who decided not to race.... Edited March 19, 2016 by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Harris said the track was rideable. If so, why didn't they ride it ? Harris is just 1 rider with 1 opinion.What did the other 15 think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 If the track wasn't ready, then the buck stops entirely with the promotion. They should have called it off several days ago, and stopped fans from all across the country travelling to Manchester today for what was a massive waste of time. They have shot themselves in the foot. All the best Rob 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyb Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 End of the day shows the total disregard for Peter Craven - well done Belle Vue ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten2502 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Harris said the track was rideable. In the circumstances (huge crowd, opening meeting etc) the meeting should have gone ahead. The fact that the meeting would have been crap is down to the promotion. The fact that it was abandoned is down to the riders. I'm afraid I don't agree with your idea of the meeting should have gone ahead - the people that turned out for this event deserved a "proper" meeting not some have hearted attempt at synthetic racing........... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyb Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Am i a little pd off with tonight yes but more than that i am so so gutted for Chris David and the club. Why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Harris said the track was rideable. If so, why didn't they ride it ? Was the track ready to race a meeting like this and the bottom line was no ...meaning that the meeting should have been called off weeks ago ...it never have enough time to be ready. But you reckon it's ok to Belle Vue carried on conning people by letting the riders going round slowly in indian file because ian Thomas done the same 25 years ago . Edited March 19, 2016 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 I assume the track was licensed by the SCB/ACU, if so whoever passed it fit should be sacked. Klindt said it had failed two inspections this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 A meeting of this size should not have been scheduled until the track had been down for at least one month, and had been ridden on regularly to ensure it's suitability for racing (not just riding) - together with as much of the surrounding facilities completed as possible BSPA and Belle Vue have cost 6,000 fans a mountain of time, effort and money, and done the sport probably the biggest disservice in this country since Olsen created his circus Can the association and its members bugger off and let someone else take over, someone with organisational skills, foresight and common sense? While we're at it, how can a meeting run with one ambulance? Common sense says that, if that vehicle is needed to be used, the lack of a second will mean the meeting cannot continue (ref Somerset last night). Doh! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Harris is just 1 rider with 1 opinion.What did the other 15 think? Fair point Iris - we don't know what they thought although I for one would like to know. From quotes from the track, though, Harris was spokesperson for the riders. Its reasonable to say that he represented a collective view. If the track wasn't ready, then the buck stops entirely with the promotion. They should have called it off several days ago, and stopped fans from all across the country travelling to Manchester today for what was a massive waste of time. They have shot themselves in the foot. All the best Rob Had this been a normal weekly meeting I would have completely agreed. But it isn't. Its an opening meeting with 6,000 people at the track. This could have gone ahead - crap maybe, but it could. The riders chose not to ride on a track that was rideable. The abandonment of the meeting was down to them. I'm afraid I don't agree with your idea of the meeting should have gone ahead - the people that turned out for this event deserved a "proper" meeting not some have hearted attempt at synthetic racing........... Had it gone ahead, Belle Vue would rightly have been significantly criticised for the fact that it simply wasn't ready and the riders praised for the fact that they were willing to have a go. I completely agree that it should have been a top class meeting, but the reason there was no meeting at all is not down to Belle Vue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 A meeting of this size should not have been scheduled until the track had been down for at least one month, and had been ridden on regularly to ensure it's suitability for racing (not just riding) - together with as much of the surrounding facilities completed as possible BSPA and Belle Vue have cost 6,000 fans a mountain of time, effort and money, and done the sport probably the biggest disservice in this country since Olsen created his circus Can the association and its members bugger off and let someone else take over, someone with organisational skills, foresight and common sense? While we're at it, how can a meeting run with one ambulance? Common sense says that, if that vehicle is needed to be used, the lack of a second will mean the meeting cannot continue (ref Somerset last night). Doh! As i said, the track curator would have known several days ago if this meeting was going to make it. No excuse. And i agree with the rest of your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Harris is just 1 rider with 1 opinion.What did the other 15 think? Woffy tweeted Gutted for the fans who turned up tonight but track just wasn't safe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 As i said, the track curator would have known several days ago if this meeting was going to make it. No excuse. And i agree with the rest of your post. Th track curator is Colin Meredith, the SCB inspector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 So did this track get a track certificate before tonight's meeting, and if so, who approved it ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Th track curator is Colin Meredith, the SCB inspector. Then somebody wants there backside kicked soundly. HE, should have reported his misgivings to Gordon or morton. And he WOULD have known days ago. Edited March 19, 2016 by Starman2006 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyb Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 How great to see one of the most famous clubs in speedway in a brand new stadium befitting their great history. Every time I hear the name Belle Vue, I can't help but think of Peter Craven,one of the greatest English riders ever, and by far the most spectacular of the so-called big 5, of the old National League. There is no better meeting than this to start of this new era in the club's history. They have not had the success of old lately, but who knows, this new stadium may pave the way to more success. One thing for sure, Poole will never be regarded in the same way as Belle-Vue, they will be remembered for something different altogether. May tonight's meeting be a huge success, with much more to come. i New era - same old excrement - can you tell I'm angry ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Was the track ready to race a meeting like this and the bottom line was no ...meaning that the meeting should have been called off weeks ago ...it never have enough time to be ready. But you reckon it's ok to Belle Vue carried on conning people by letting the riders going round slowly in indian file because ian Thomas done the same 25 years ago . I haven't said what Belle Vue have done is OK at all. They deserve a great deal of criticism for the fact that the track was not ready. However, the track was rideable. What you have said is what happened is entirely down to Belle Vue and that the riders are not to blame in the slightest when this could have gone ahead. Simple truth is that a crap meeting would have been down to Belle Vue, but total abandonment is down to the riders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 One of the issues so many of us have with sport is getting heat 10 for a rain off. Just running heats for the sake of it is what kills the sport. Of the track isn't fit then racing should not happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten2502 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Had it gone ahead, Belle Vue would rightly have been significantly criticised for the fact that it simply wasn't ready and the riders praised for the fact that they were willing to have a go. I completely agree that it should have been a top class meeting, but the reason there was no meeting at all is not down to Belle Vue. But people paid good money for a good racing event - had I made the trip I would not have been happy with tootling round for the sake of it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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