Star Lady Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 For those not twitter users here's one from Peter Oakes this morning Credit to speedway control bureau for launching inquiry into Belle Vue & @SpeedwayGB boss Keith Chapman whose called emergency meeting 2day Not sure about crediting the SCB, surely they authorised the licence in the first place when clearly the track was not fit for purpose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) Lets face it, poor meetings on poor tracks are hardly unheard of. Not the norm, maybe, but common enough. Read the barrage of criticism that Ipswich got on Thursday, or the updates from Leicester (4 passes in 15 heats) yesterday afternoon. Those meetings were on 'proper' tracks and at Leicester the shape has apparently been adapted during the winter to improve the quality of the racing. Would such a meeting from Belle Vue have been so much worse ? I believe most were there for the occasion, not the racing. The real point is of course that had it gone ahead it would be most difficult indeed to blame the riders in anyway whatsoever. As it is, reading this thread, facebook and twitter I am anything but the only one who - at this stage at least - believes that while the poor track is down to Belle Vue, the abandonment is down to them. Under normal circumstances, I'd agree. But this isn't normal circumstances. Its an open meeting with a huge attendance for what is a unique occasion. While the quality of the field would have attracted some, as I have said I suspect most would simply have been wanted to be part of the occasion and the quality of the speedway would have been secondary. In that, its similar to the GP at Cardiff; I know people who won't go to another meeting all season but go there simply because of the atmosphere. Would they ? The question is whether monetary refunds would have been given in the event of postponement or whether tickets would have been valid for a future occasion - the latter, after all, is far more normal practice in speedway. Even if the meeting had been cancelled two weeks ago, some would still have lost hotel deposits and payments. If it was a case of tickets valid for a future meeting only, many could not have gone and the field would be nowhere near the same calibre. Finally, it would not be the first meeting at the new stadium. As I have said, my suspicion is many would just have wanted to be there for the first meeting. Huge attendances for opening meetings at places like Kent and Redcar prove that. Better to just get your money back than see a poor meeting but be able to say you were there ? That's debatable at best. Don't always agree with you but....... You are spot on there !!!! Edited March 20, 2016 by TMW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 no I was to pissed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 http://www.taiwoffinden.com/land/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) Maybe it was Bombers way of saying, "Look guys, I'd have ridden. So look elsewhere for the reasons why this meeting isn't taking place"Or maybe Bombers way of saying "Look guys, I'd have ridden"..... "So please come to my Testimonial"!!!! Edited March 20, 2016 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Or maybe Bombers way of saying "Look guys, I'd have ridden"..... "So please come to my Testimonial"!!!! very cynical...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 http://www.taiwoffinden.com/land/index.html Would love to have seen Chris Holders opinion on the Belle Vue track. ... Have the Belle Vue management still got this money in a "special disaster" bank account to cover such an incident... Big events can be insured against cancellations. I wonder if it was insured...and if it was...will the conspiracy theorists not bang on about this all being an insurance scam? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) Harris said the track was rideable or did you miss that bit?He said more than that . He said it was rideable not raceable. The public didn't pay to come and see people riding round, they came to see racing. Instead of playing with words it might be more sensible to see what any inquiry says about, based on fact. Edited March 20, 2016 by E I Addio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 http://www.taiwoffinden.com/land/index.html Who is the individual he is referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 too much moisture in 3rd and 4th bend after no rain for a week ? did they flood the thing or is there no drainege Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 didn't Chris Morton come out and blame the riders? FK!you! I have just got home from this shambles with my son. I have wasted £70 in petrol money, I am chronically tired and not well. Stick it up your arse!!! Hone and BVWouldn't be any worse than this crap would it! You complete tosser why thank you and I was there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppetman Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 its always disapointing when your trackside and its called off but when you travel for hours to get there its just sole distroying traveling home cold and unhappy I destroyed a sole the other night--with lemon and chips. What has happened to the art of spelling? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 too much moisture in 3rd and 4th bend after no rain for a week ? did they flood the thing or is there no drainege By all accounts, the moisture was already in the shale, there has been little chance for evaporation, despite no real precipitation over the last 7-10 days.. Doesn't matter how much packing/rolling/scarifying, re-rolling, the moisture has not gone anywhere.. Tracks are almost a living entity, track curation is complicated, there is such a narrow window in track prep, it's a knife edge between a good race track and no race track at all, especially from new, and even more so this time of year... I'm not making excuses for anyone, but it's such a narrow "goldilox" timeframe for success/failure prepping tracks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I destroyed a sole the other night--with lemon and chips. What has happened to the art of spelling? yes i and others make spelling mistakes unlike some forum super brains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) too much moisture in 3rd and 4th bend after no rain for a week ? did they flood the thing or is there no drainege The wifi water hydrant was in advertently activated by a baggage handler at Ljubljana airport. Edited March 20, 2016 by pugwash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Don't remember saying Nicki didn't want to ride. I'll re read my posts and correct it as one of us is wrong. People keep mentioning that the track failed it's inspection twice but never mention the successful one. Biased. I was there. Gladiators all, I do miss it. He is one example of a rider wbo did everything to be there. Of course they all wanted to ride, just not a shoddy excuse for a track. Face it, it isn't 1975 anymore. If you want the best then give them a track to race on. How anyone can absolve BV of all blame here is unbelieveable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry1603 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Nicki certainly put in the effort to get to the meeting and even found time to have a bit of banter with us on the back straight. Fair play to him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 So, too much of this was used then? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windy Miller Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 A big shame for the Belle Vue promotion but on the positive side, plenty of riders on social media have said the stadium and track shape looks awesome so much to look forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Her is the video from one month ago showing bend 3 and 4 covered in building materials etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWF2o2j4O6s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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