damosuzuki Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Ummm, I don't understand this problem... lol, does it matter? And for people saying they could get caught in chains and stuff, well so could an arm, or a leg, should riders take their limbs off before going out too? I think there can be too much safety, the riders know the dangers before they get on the bike and they wouldn't do it if they thought about their hair hanging out of their helmets getting stuck and so on... Just my opinion of course I'd prefer no anger to be raised from this post, just a point Haha - I was being sarcy tbh. And I agree, low down the list of concerns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff 100 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 am soz but safety is all to important we have chain guards to stop limbs getting in the back wheel ,protectors on silencers to stop burns so hair and scarfes need to be put right,am sure insurance would play a big part if someone was to get hurt with hanging hair perhaps even become invalid if rules are broken . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 For those who follow Moto GP, only a few years back there was Marco Simoncelli in the big class, just on the brink of regularly challenging the top riders. He had a good mop of hair to tuck into his helmet with a bit sticking out. Sadly he came off on a corner, stuck with his bike, hit by another rider, and his helmet came off, didn't recover consciousness and sadly dies at the side of the track. Its rare to see a properly fitted helmet come off. I just wonder whether the heavy layer of hair compressed at some point, allowing the neck strap to come off. Never heard the official cause of death, but always in my mind is that what occurred. Whatever, another young talent gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Christ. What a line up now! And still Adam Ellis isn't given a chance. Surely he must have turned it down? I cannot believe they could put a rider due to a recent average change into a heatleader role with a decent average yet he is not good enough to get into the British semis. I would like an explanation or I am going to go on the assumption of the list they had of riders to ride before Ellis would be: Shuttleworth Kelsey Dugard Anders Rowe Jack Parkinson Blackburns mechanic Neil Middleditch Max Branning The programme seller The tealady The start line lady wearing blue Nicklas Klingberg Then Adam Ellis would be called upon. I would burst into tears if he got the wildcard call with King but I think it maybe Newman if hes fit since he has the best average in the EL out of all the British riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 just back from glasgow reading others on here saying what a great meeting it was i must have seen something different was a let down to be honest not a lot of passing most races decided after second bend.and when are refs going to clamp down on certain rider leaving hair hanging out of helmets,its in the rule book no hair or scarfes hanging out god help, them of they fall and it gets caught in a wheel , told 2 refs of duty about it they wernt bothered. do you have hair? Jealousy will destroy you geoff, maybe next time you see Richard ask him about his hair rather than post childish comments. I bet your a wimp and won't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 http://scunthorpescorpions.co/?p=5459some nice comments on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Ellis was riding abroad yesterday. Gustrow open meeting four points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Nothing against the riders who stood in at Glasgow, but it really is a sorry state of British speedway when you look at that line up for a British semi final, I may be old school but to me the British final, and title, is rapidly becoming meaningless ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Wasn't the worst meeting I've ever seen , but it wasn't anything special due to the big difference in abilities . Nevertheless it was a decent enough day weatherwise and there was a healthy looking crowd to watch it . Paul Starke was the surprise package , that lad has really improved a lot , and Danny Ayres deserves credit too , just a shame his opening heat exclusion came back to haunt him . Silly bugger forgot to put his steel shoe on haha . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Didn't the Swedish final used to have(may still have) a qualifying race to start the meeting with 1st and maybe 2nd qualifying for the main meeting. Then 3rd and 4th are the meeting reserves. Maybe this could happen for the British Final with King, Newman, Bates and Wright fighting it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Im sure there was run off before a recent British Final for the last place in the meeting ( cant remeber which year) Think Danny was involved in that one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff 100 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 do you have hair? Jealousy will destroy you geoff, maybe next time you see Richard ask him about his hair rather than post childish comments. I bet your a wimp and won't. i have a full head of hair baba,but rules are rules,and where did i mention r lawson in my post so my commments are not both childish nor am i a wimp ,if u would like to discuss anything with me am on the first corner when work allows and anyrider that breaks the rulesw ill be pointed out to clerk of course to deal with the ref .. see u soon "baba" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Although you never mentioned his name in your post it clearly refers to Richard. Rules are rules but in speedway they are so inconsistent when it comes to enforcing them. I doubt that the referees know all the rules and thats the problem. Richard would have won yesterday if he had a short back and sides it wouldn't have made a difference. Ok your not a wimp and I will take that part back at least your post wasn't as insulting as jenga's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff 100 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Although you never mentioned his name in your post it clearly refers to Richard. Rules are rules but in speedway they are so inconsistent when it comes to enforcing them. I doubt that the referees know all the rules and thats the problem. Richard would have won yesterday if he had a short back and sides it wouldn't have made a difference. Ok your not a wimp and I will take that part back at least your post wasn't as insulting as jenga's. i agree richard was on fire yesterday it just annoys me to see anything hanging out of a helmet purley on safety,d north done it all last year lindback in the grand prix is an accident waiting to happen,as for being a wimp if u come to wton am on first bend the burgers and tea are on you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Where's George M when you need him. any photos from glasgow George to bring this thread but to reality Edited May 16, 2016 by SharpenRake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 i have a full head of hair baba,but rules are rules,and where did i mention r lawson in my post so my commments are not both childish nor am i a wimp ,if u would like to discuss anything with me am on the first corner when work allows and anyrider that breaks the rulesw ill be pointed out to clerk of course to deal with the ref .. see u soon "baba" STFU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Didn't the Swedish final used to have(may still have) a qualifying race to start the meeting with 1st and maybe 2nd qualifying for the main meeting. Then 3rd and 4th are the meeting reserves. Maybe this could happen for the British Final with King, Newman, Bates and Wright fighting it out. Yes, they did. Great shout. I think that would be a good idea. I still firmly believe though that with all the youth development schemes going on, we should look at having a quarters and a semi final with a seeded final and possibly a seeded semi because there are too many good riders missing out. Would also make sense not to host them on the same day/week as a GP qualifier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Dont have wild cards its that simple. Top 8 in each semi final. Most years they put through the 8th place finishers anyway!! Back when the British Final had a higher calibre of riders n the 80's and 90's there were no wild cards given out. Kenny Carter with a broken leg is the obvious one and i remember Mark Loram (1993?) trying to ride in the semi final at Ipswich with a broken collarbone and pulling out after 1 ride. They never got seeded through so why its any different is farcical. Why should Danny King get a place (and yes im an Ipswich fan). Why should Kennett get a place? And being British Under 21 champion shouldnt guarantee Bates a place (though he should be there because he was 8th) Give the wild cards to the 2 riders who should by rights be there, Bates and Wright 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Dont have wild cards its that simple. Top 8 in each semi final. Most years they put through the 8th place finishers anyway!! Back when the British Final had a higher calibre of riders n the 80's and 90's there were no wild cards given out. Kenny Carter with a broken leg is the obvious one and i remember Mark Loram (1993?) trying to ride in the semi final at Ipswich with a broken collarbone and pulling out after 1 ride. They never got seeded through so why its any different is farcical. Why should Danny King get a place (and yes im an Ipswich fan). Why should Kennett get a place? And being British Under 21 champion shouldnt guarantee Bates a place (though he should be there because he was 8th) Give the wild cards to the 2 riders who should by rights be there, Bates and Wright absolutely spot on, the old system made it cut throat action, always a shock along the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Disagree. It was ludicrous Carter was made to ride the semi in 84. Similarly tai this year not being seeded. What makes it a farce is something like last year where lambert crashed out and was not given one of the wildcards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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