fatface Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 In speedway, as with many sports, it's not just about having the right equipment - the mental side is so important. Steady and Robson may be good coaches - the best performers don't necessarily make the best tutors/coaches. I don't think any ex player could claim to be better than Roger Federer but he employs coaches to improve his performances. Many of the top British riders have been successful on the international stage but most are not consistent. Being first to the first bend is vital - Mauger, Gundersen, Nielsen, Hancock, Woffy, Havelock + loads more - all excellent gaters. World Champion exceptions? Maybe Collins & Loram. This is a good move and I hope enough attention is paid to watching other successful riders and how they get out of the start - dropping the clutch is only part of the story. Yes, I agree there is possibility Stead and Robson might be good coaches. I just thought it ironic that they are the coaches, given they are two riders who have techniques that has held them back, I just hope they recognise that and don't teach youngsters to do as they do. Britain's had 100s of Simon Steads and Stuart Robsons in the last couple of decades. It's more Tai Woffindens we need! Essentially you are right though that a great rider doesn't make a great coach. That's true across most sports. It's very rare for a top sportsman or woman to be a top coach. My background is athletics and I can't think of a single top athlete who has gone on to be a great coach. The problem is that they simply expect their protege to replicate what they did in training and they get frustrated when they can't do it. Guys like Daley Thompson and Colin Jackson are physiological freaks and when they have gone into coaching, they have run athletes into the ground who simply can't handle the same type of training and they end up injured. I think speedway has a lot to learn from other sports in terms of coaching and sports science. Certainly coaching in the early stages should be fundamental for every developing rider. I think it's overkill to recruit a whole team of experts for each rider. I think there is only the need for additional professional help for riders at the very top end. But maybe there should be some general guidance on fitness, nutrition and psychology for any riders involved in GB squad. I am not convinced that many riders - some even at GP level - even do the very basics right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 So which riders will be going....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenway Bleachers Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Roscos pals.... Woffy Bomber,Lambert,King,Kennett,Stead Maybe Garrity and the Worralls. Just leave Cookie at home,being reserve wastes his time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Well he used Stefan Edberg for a few years. Andy Murray have used Ivan Lendl as a coach and Andy is now using former player Ameli Mauresmo, Djokovic is using Boris Becker... Exactly, none of them better than either of them. Of course comparisons are not perfect as there is much more money in tennis but these people help as much with the mental side as anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Roscos pals.... Woffy Bomber,Lambert,King,Kennett,Stead Maybe Garrity and the Worralls. Just leave Cookie at home,being reserve wastes his time The kind of arrogance we have come to expect from some Edinburgh fans unfortunately. Very much doubt he will be reserve on his home circuit this year, I don't think his inability to ride King's Lynn properly has helped in previous years, particularly his poor SWC showing in 2013. At least he has shown that he has the ambition to succeed at International level by binning off the PL this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenway Bleachers Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Touche!!!! Never been picked by Rosco,even after British final performances that merited inclusion. If Rosco sticks to form.....stick to your usual formula. Yes Cookie too good for PL and has been for a wee while. We managed to win a few bits of Bling courtesy of his loyalty. A true team man and legend. Let's hope he gets a go in Poland. He owes Rosco sweet FA. Best to look after No1 after all See you at the National stadium.....just not mid Summer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 British Final performances on a much different circuit to Lynn not particularly relevant. King & Stead have shown on numerous occasions that they can ride Lynn properly and hence were picked ahead of your man on that basis. Look forward to a team of Woffinden, Harris, Lambert & Cook this year and a fighting performance if not a winning one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenway Bleachers Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Fair point, that view held up in 2014 maybe but in 2015, I would suggest that Cookie would beat Danny 95% of the time on every track,other than Brandon. Enter team manager......or not. Time spent heading North and watching the Brits may have helped, but that seems beyond our National manager and I admit that opinion may be biased from his Sky commentary comments,and ignorance of PL matters and personnel. He did not pick Dickie Lawson in his "squad" and handled Cook badly in my view when better man management seemed prudent. A mature Cookie is sure to help this time...he should have another chat with Scott and take a good look at both Worralls who gate better than Bomber and will have home advantage this year. Horses for courses after all. Enjoy the watching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 To be fair to Craig he asked not to be picked in the World Cup team as he felt he wasn't performing well enough to do well for his team. So we can put that one to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenway Bleachers Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Thanks Blobby! Hope you haven't finished all those bottles from last night's raffle. I think Craig's comments might be that he jumped before being pushed. His form last year was sublime and got better the bigger the responsibility. Last night's show illustrated that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 To be fair to Craig he asked not to be picked in the World Cup team as he felt he wasn't performing well enough to do well for his team. So we can put that one to bed. Fair enough but not convinced he would have been selected for Event 1 anyway, although to be fair he had scored paid twelve for Belle Vue at Lynn the month before. King & Stead's scores on the night vindicated their inclusion but they are not the future of Team GB whereas I think Cook can be now that he has decided to spread his wings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 If there is no injures id be surprised if the line up wasn't Woffinden, Harris, Lambert and Cook. Who would likely be the U21 reserve? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Foreign based training has been proven to work succesfully, The Australians have been doing it for years , bring a few raw beginners each year to the UK get them trained up by British speedway . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 If there is no injures id be surprised if the line up wasn't Woffinden, Harris, Lambert and Cook. Who would likely be the U21 reserve? Josh Bates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 This program came out today about the Supercross season. I found it interesting throughout but the relevant part about the way they train and practice is from about 9 minutes in to 25 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 If there is no injures id be surprised if the line up wasn't Woffinden, Harris, Lambert and Cook. Who would likely be the U21 reserve? has to be Adam Ellis after last years SWC U21's, he top scored in Germany and has some big event experiene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Its a shame we don't have enough good riders to put Lambert at reserve. Can a reserve only come in for injuries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Its a shame we don't have enough good riders to put Lambert at reserve. Can a reserve only come in for injuries? Yes, for the 2016 SWC, the U21 Reserve can only be used in the case of an injury, or illness, to one of the Riders declared to ride in the team's 1 to 4. If a Reserve is used, in no circumstances will the replaced rider be allowed back into the meeting. The injured Rider and Reserve replacement will be entitled to race in a maximum 5 heats (4 x programmed plus a nomination in heats 17-20) in the meeting, plus 1 additional ride as a TS or Joker. If replacing the injured Rider in a re-run of a heat, the Reserve shall assume the status of the injured Rider in that heat, i.e. programmed ride, TS or Joker. It is not compulsory for a team to nominate a Reserve rider for the 2016 SWC. Edited February 15, 2016 by macca56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 So do we have any idea who the riders attending this are yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 So do we have any idea who the riders attending this are yet? Lewis Kerr & Bridger will be two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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