Foreign Based Team Gb Training At Last

[Bagpuss]

Should have happened years ago but great to see its finally taking place

 

http://speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.30036

[MattK]

"It’s been clear for some time that our riders do tend to struggle when they get to major events on big, Continental tracks, and a lot of that is down to set-ups."

 

I've always struggled to get my head around this. Is there some kind of set-up "database" that speedway riders use?

[screm]

Well done to the BSPA and all concerned for organising this, if it becomes a regular thing it could benefit our riders and Team GB no end.

[foamfence]

It's a sensible move that should do some good, my only reservation would be the number of riders included, there aren't 15 worthy of a test match place, let alone a World Cup team.

[iris123]

It is a great idea.Years late,but at least they are now doing something positive.Give them all necessary experience on a different type of track.As I mentioned on here before,when I asked a manager of a foreign team why they never pick British riders the answer was they don't have the experience of the foreign tracks.......this should now change

[Bagpuss]

It's a sensible move that should do some good, my only reservation would be the number of riders included, there aren't 15 worthy of a test match place, let alone a World Cup team.

 

Id have thought some of those would be youngsters who we are looking to be in the SWC side in 3-5 years time.

[foamfence]

 

Id have thought some of those would be youngsters who we are looking to be in the SWC side in 3-5 years time.

Hopefully! More likely they will be the hopeless cases that Rosco always shortlists anyway.

[pugwash]

Gorican? When's the WC going to be in Croatia? Why not somewhere in Poland?

Sounds like a 'Jolly' to me.

[A ORLOV]

Good but should have a couple of days at Belle Vue as well

[Long Eye]

 

 

I've always struggled to get my head around this. Is there some kind of set-up "database" that speedway riders use?

Experience. The more laps that a rider does on a track then the more he will learn about what is needed from the bike.

[iris123]

Gorican? When's the WC going to be in Croatia? Why not somewhere in Poland?

Sounds like a 'Jolly' to me.

Think quite a lot of riders head for Gorican eary in the year as the weather is better than Poland or Germany.But you often get riders putting in some training in Germany as well as France.Also what Russell Paine was hoping to set up with his planned track in Spain......

 

I'd also say going 'away' as a group helps to bond a team feeling,which is something often seen in other countries teams,but lacking in ours.I watched a film a few years ago about bagpipers of all things and one of the guys was an ex-army bagpiper nd said to function properly as a team you have to get to know the others inside and out and bond.

Edited February 6, 2016 by iris123

[PHILIPRISING]

CERTAINLY a step in the right direction but who will be doing the instructional work?

[pugwash]

They obviously forgot about that.

[barncooseboy]

THEY will be made very welcome by the Pavlic family, Daria is a super lady with her head firmly screwed on, did a University degree at Bournemouth a few years ago and speaks better english than most Brits. Chris Harris used to go there regularly, believe there is an on site fully equipped gym and restaurant as well but beware the local slivovitz it is poweful stuff.

 

good weather there at that time as well, lots of germans, czechs etc go there for training, track staff work on the track all day to keep it in top class condition the right choice

[Tsunami]

"It’s been clear for some time that our riders do tend to struggle when they get to major events on big, Continental tracks, and a lot of that is down to set-ups."

 

I've always struggled to get my head around this. Is there some kind of set-up "database" that speedway riders use?

Yes, All of the main Danes that rode for us all had combined mobile phones with computers built into the back. The likes of Bjarne and KB could tell you what gear and ignition settings that had used at previous meetings, along with the track conditions. Even if the track was slightly different, at least they started from a reasonable setup unlike a first timer trying to guess it.

[Alan_Jones]

CERTAINLY a step in the right direction but who will be doing the instructional work?

 

I would hope that riders being considered for the national team are beyond the stage of needing instruction. The youth riders will have Simon Stead & Stuart Robson with them.

[screm]

It's a sensible move that should do some good, my only reservation would be the number of riders included, there aren't 15 worthy of a test match place, let alone a World Cup team.

 

True but I would hope most of the 15 will be younger riders, some from the Poultec training scheme for example. British speedway needs to start somewhere to get the improvement necessary to put our riders and our Team GB back at the top on a regular bases.

[uk_martin]

"It’s been clear for some time that our riders do tend to struggle when they get to major events on big, Continental tracks, and a lot of that is down to set-ups."

 

I welcome the move. If it brings benefits then that's great.

 

This thing about "setups" though, leaves me with more questions than answers. Are they referring to why our best juniors don't seem to do themselved justice the first time that they compete in u21 championships? They can't surely be referring to the senior Team GB's failures and blaming that on bike setups can they? Over the years, we have had Chris Harris, Lee Richardson, Scott Nicholls, Joe Screen, Simon Stead and some others riding regularly in the Polish Ekstaliga, and in the Swedish Elitserien. So they were getting as much exposure to continental race tracks as any anyone else. Why is it that when these guys fail when riding for the flag over the years, it's blamed on bike setups and inexperience? These guys spent years in those leagues and had the same opportunities to sort their bikes out as everyone else did. It can't just be that year after year after year, on tracks that they regularly raced on in the leagues the bike setups that were right for league racing were wrong all of a sudden when they raced for Team GB.

 

I think that the bike setups thing may be valid for the juniors, but that the reasons for failure at senior level is down to something else, and bike setups is just a smoke screen.

 

However, being positive, there's plenty of experience of continental tracks and conditions in the pool of British riders that remain from those days. I hope that for the sake of the juniors that putting some of that experience to good use and transferring that knowledge in a practical way to the juniors will be a major part of what Rosco's trying to do. As for what Rosco intends to do that will benefit Chris Harris, Danny King, Simon Stead and Tai Woffinden, I really don't know.

[fatface]

 

I would hope that riders being considered for the national team are beyond the stage of needing instruction. The youth riders will have Simon Stead & Stuart Robson with them.

Coaching is absolutely fundamental to success at elite level in most sports. Yet in speedway, there seems to be very little regard for it. Certainly in Britain.

 

It's ironic you mention Stuart Robson and Simon Stead, as they are two perfect examples of British riders who are technically flawed. Yet if they had been properly coached, I think they both could have gone further in the sport.

 

Overall though, I think this is a great initiative and though I am no Alun Rossiter fan, he deserves huge congratulations for getting this off the ground. It's a definite step in the right direction.

[Trevor]

Excellent idea, well done to those who thought of it, and to those who backed it. Does anyone know the names of any riders going yet?