A ORLOV Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Apparently some brilliant races at Poole tonight but because of an announcement that anyone periscoping will be banned the club has lost a brilliant advertising opportunity, one or two races shown would not do any damage but the powers that be still have their heads stuck in the sand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Why doesn't the management do a periscope production of their own, say pits highlights just pre meeting, warming up, rider thoughts, coin toss, track walk, then highlights of 3 maybe 4 races, crowd views, race end fans view (camera views of crowd) interview riders/fans on result, package it up as a 10/15 min weekly promo video, firstly give it to the local tv news sports desk, then onto you tube..?? Win, win? Edited April 7, 2016 by Shale Searcher 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 The BSPA have joined 000s of organisations from all walks of life who's first reaction to anything new/different is 'ban it'. It never crosses their mind to think 'How can we turn it to our advantage?'. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 The BSPA have joined 000s of organisations from all walks of life who's first reaction to anything new/different is 'ban it'. It never crosses their mind to think 'How can we turn it to our advantage?'. In a nutshell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 The BSPA, for once, are 100% correct in their decision to ban the leachers and parasites from wanting to watch speedway for free. However, they should be actively pursuing setting up an official online service of their own. It could be done in conjunction with Sky surely to get around any contract issues? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) firesticks just as good for 35 quid and a peice of piddle to put a kodi build on , The firestick is very good, but for an extra £45 you can get the fire tv which is much quicker, twice the RAM and as an Ethernet port. Wifi on the stick is good but nothing beats a LAN connection. The best kodibuild is paradox. Paradox updates on a regular basis meaning its maintenance free and he has all the best addons, and you can still add your own like the speedway portal add on which is superb Edited April 7, 2016 by SUPERACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I do not see how this amatuer streaming from some tracks of a few races, done from the terraces from one angle is going to damage the major tv companies or most certainly attendance figures anymore than the speedway on tv has already done so! Its just simply a quick and opportunistic way of having a look in now and again at what's going on at a meeting in my view. It certainly wouldn't detract me from going to live speedway. Other factors would do that...i.e threat of a rain-off....the Belle Vue fiasco...the Poland fiasco. So just a couple of fans pointing their mobiles at some racing is quite a nice thing to do considering it is costing the person in the first place on data & who has already PAID to go in. Get a life for crying out loud! Enjoy what you've got because it may not be around for much longer the way its all going. I bet most people would have agreed with periscope back in the days of the old World of Sport items they did. 5 minutes of broadcast and that was it. And that was generally from one camera. But then, too many people have gotten greedy and want it all for themselves now!!! If you really think that someone will stop at just a few race you're deluded. It will be a few races.. then a few more.. then folk will be streaming the whole meetings, building up a nice little following and enjoying the attention. Then the freeloaders will start to think, I'll stay home tonight and watch it for free.. It may not detract you from going along, if I was still in the UK and indeed when I am in the UK it wouldn't stop me from going along.. but it will others. I'm saying this from a point of view where it would be great for me personally based where I am! As I've said before, an official streaming service of a decent quality is a different kettle of fish and something they ARE in the backwaters about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 really dont think speedway would be effected by this streaming myself. if people are interested theyd simply go. you can follow speedway updates, these people like speedway, but not enough to go, and think anyone looking at some poor quality streaming are probably the same...of course i have no statistics on this matter, just an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 really dont think speedway would be effected by this streaming myself. if people are interested theyd simply go. you can follow speedway updates, these people like speedway, but not enough to go, and think anyone looking at some poor quality streaming are probably the same...of course i have no statistics on this matter, just an opinion. Speedway was certainly effected by the Bet 365 streaming- hence it was dropped as soon as the contract ended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Don't you think that speedway is affected more dramatically by the weather and admission prices? Not a silly little mobile phone gimmick! I know plenty of people who won't go due to high cost let alone travelling to away meetings with the threat of it being called off. Exactly If people would rather sit in the house and watch the sport on an amateur film taken from a mobile phone, rather than watch it live, this says a lot about the state of the sport and what is on offer for the spectators. You see other sports which are live on TV, in bad weather, you get live updates on the internet, facebook, twitter, whatever, but the games still get big crowds because of the atmosphere and experience from being live at the event. Rather than becoming worried about losing a handful of people, who lets face it if they would rather sit in the house this way than follow your team live, are very casual fans anyway, shouldn't the sport be more concerned about improving the product on show, to attract more supporters? If the product on show was that good, you wouldn't think twice about not wanting to be there live. I can remember the exact same reaction to the live updates website, some promoters wanted that banned because they thought it would affect crowd levels. Instead of fearing developments like this, learn to embrace them and find out how you can use them to your advantage to promote your product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 The BSPA, for once, are 100% correct in their decision to ban the leachers and parasites from wanting to watch speedway for free. However, they should be actively pursuing setting up an official online service of their own. It could be done in conjunction with Sky surely to get around any contract issues? Agree on your first point absolutely. On the second, how do we know they aren't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 With the way the world is nowadays it seems to key to everything if you want to be successful is using the many forms of social media out there to sell / show your product to the public. How many people use there smart phones laptops or other media device to watch news weather and so on . Sky themselves offer various form's on all these kind of devices . Yes what people are doing with this periscope app is classed as illegal but i can see the potential in the product. Using this app or something similar would be a great way of showing others just what speedway is all about , think someone back on the post said about a weekly 5-10 minutes highlights program that could be shown that could be linked added to the various social media sites that clubs use to promote their clubs. Along as it was done right and all above board through the proper channels surely this could only be a benefit to the sport ? Give the public a teaser of what this sport is all about that we all love , yes it won't be everyone's cup of tea but the average of a speedway supporter on the terraces is not that young and in my option that age figure is only going to increase . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Remember this is a sport that banned a radio station from doing live commentary as people were supposedly preferring to stay at home and LISTEN to Speedway rather than WATCH it.....! Embracing visual technology may take some time.....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but.... it was fine to allow BET365 to stream whole meetings live last season, How did that arrangement not endanger the Sky contract, yet one or two enthusiastic fans showing a couple of heats from a few meetings to encourage more 'stay at homes' to attend (or at the very least to watch more Sky meetings) is a contractual problem???!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but.... it was fine to allow BET365 to stream whole meetings live last season, How did that arrangement not endanger the Sky contract, yet one or two enthusiastic fans showing a couple of heats from a few meetings to encourage more 'stay at homes' to attend (or at the very least to watch more Sky meetings) is a contractual problem???!! You really think some amateurish video is going to encourage 'stay at homers' to start attending? "I'm not bothered about going to the speedway much these days, too much effort.. oh look, I can watch it for free now on internet! I think I'll start going to the effort of going again!" When are folk going to grasp, it won't stop at a 'couple of heats'. If not nipped in the bud some folk will be streaming full meetings and revelling in the 'attention' and 'praise' they get. Being pedantic, Bet365 wasn't last season. Edited April 8, 2016 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) As I've said before, I agree that the whole meeting should never be streamed, but the clubs themselves seem very reluctant to use their own websites to show weekly highlights footage, whether it be from Sky, the Track Video Company or a couple of decent periscopers who are given permission?! If it manages to get even a few more paying customers in/back in or even a couple more watching on Sky then I really don't see a problem. Anything that goes on any of the social media platforms is much more likely to reach the younger audiences than anything on TV these days - and may even whet their appetites to attend Edited April 8, 2016 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 You really think some amateurish video is going to encourage 'stay at homers' to start attending? "I'm not bothered about going to the speedway much these days, too much effort.. oh look, I can watch it for free now on internet! I think I'll start going to the effort of going again!" When are folk going to grasp, it won't stop at a 'couple of heats'. If not nipped in the bud some folk will be streaming full meetings and revelling in the 'attention' and 'praise' they get. Being pedantic, Bet365 wasn't last season. Not if the person putting a couple of races out on it with the agreement of the management, ie given a licence to do it. If they start showing too much then they are stopped SS did the management give you the ok to use periscope for a couple of races. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Not if the person putting a couple of races out on it with the agreement of the management, ie given a licence to do it. If they start showing too much then they are stopped SS did the management give you the ok to use periscope for a couple of races. ? Surely SS is management- PPPSO - Poole Pirates positive spin officer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Given so many fans complain about the length of meetings (specifically the time it takes between races), using this app could certainly help appease that complaint as well as adding to the overall experience... Maybe not showing the racing due to contract stipulations, but maybe just filming the pits? Possibly even interviews from riders around track conditions, how their night is going, what they feel about the current score (if you can find one who knows obviously!) and maybe mechanics too could get asked as they are changing parts of the bike why such decisions have been made. Managers also could be asked about tactical changes, their thoughts on the match thus far etc etc.. Would certainly enhance the engagement of the crowd I would suggest and certainly beats listening to some drivel between races from the centre green about "its Betty's 80th Birthday and her favourite rider is Ove Fundin" or listening to a K-Tel Hits of the 70's CD... Maybe even get the team doing the meeting DVD (if applicable) to do the filming so the sound and vision is good and they maybe will get a spin off by being able to plug their products to a 'live' audience watching in the stadium.... BV for example, has WIFI so everyone theoretically could access it during a meeting there even if they haven't got t'internet on their own phone. (Subject to a meeting ever taking place there obviously)!! Edited April 8, 2016 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Some one may have already posted this but link below to a podcast http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/home-straight-speedway-podcast Hosted by EDP sports reporter Gavin Caney and co-hosted by recently retired rider Olly Allen, the manager of the BSPA-backed national Poultec Speedway Training Programme, and Sheffield Tigers captain, Team GB international and guest Sky Sports pundit Simon Stead. 09.20 into the podcast is when they star their discussion on the periscope matter if any one want to listen Edited April 8, 2016 by Pob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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