Woz01 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Sky show ONE meeting a week, surely clubs should be able to stream their meetings that are not on Sky. Its not like Sky are bothered about a highlights package and send cameras to every track. Its a very poor deal for the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 the BSPA have sold their soul and Speedway to gospeed. whatever plan for the use of technology someone may have ,if gospeed are not getting paid it's not going to happen . riders are not even allowed to use helmet cameras and use the film for their own websites or promotional video , such is the extent of gospeed's stranglehold on speedway .stranglehold is very apt actually because that is what they are doing to speedway .. Not true. They are banned during official meetings on safety grounds, because the camera and the helmet mounts are deemed to be a weak spot for damage on the head, if hit on the top of the helmet. Riders can and do use them in non official meetings such as practice sessions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I used to enjoy when Radio Sheffield covered our trips to Hull on a Wednesday evening, it would not be every heat but they would check in and you would get one live heat while they catch you up on what had been missed ! I think even just an online radio commentary of an away meeting that most fans can't make would be great to offer or like Ice Hockey a live stream you pay x amount for !I agree with what has said before, Speedway needs to offer more and online/social media is the way to go ! Attendances are great at Ice Hockey even with live streams because it is affordable and a good nights entertainment, they have struck the perfect balance and crowds are high around the country.Periscope should be used by clubs to offer rider interviews before meetings and a look in on pits ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 A live stream of the pits would be cool and set up would be peanuts as most clubs have wifi at the stadium. An iphone taped somewhere securely would be adequate. The url address printed in the program and hundreds would be viewing during and after the meeting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Not true. They are banned during official meetings on safety grounds, because the camera and the helmet mounts are deemed to be a weak spot for damage on the head, if hit on the top of the helmet. Riders can and do use them in non official meetings such as practice sessions what a complete load of waffle , helmets come with go pro mounts moulded in , and they can also be mounted on the side of a helmet , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Steve just seen your vid on periscope can we watch bt sport speedway on that kodi Yes every sports channel in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Would there stranglehold actually hold up if it were tested in court? I think it would . because the smallprint covers even amatuer photographers posting pictures on facebook . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 what a complete load of waffle , helmets come with go pro mounts moulded in , and they can also be mounted on the side of a helmet , Better get in touch with the SCB then, I'd rather believe them. It was them that banned them before the last season, and the camera in the helmet mount can cause more damage if a direct hit on the top of the helmet. It's nothing to do with GoSpeed, SKY or any broadcasting rights. More anti Garbage from you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Better get in touch with the SCB then, I'd rather believe them. It was them that banned them before the last season, and the camera in the helmet mount can cause more damage if a direct hit on the top of the helmet. It's nothing to do with GoSpeed, SKY or any broadcasting rights. More anti Garbage from you. Can I have maple syrup with your next load of old waffle please . or strawberry jam if Gospeed have bought the rights to maple syrup for a magic bean . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Riders that compete in the AMA supercross still use go pro type cameras in their competition. As do the riders in MXGP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Riders that compete in the AMA supercross still use go pro type cameras in their competition. As do the riders in MXGP. That may be so, but I remember when GoPros were banned in actual racing, it was thought that they were to be universally banned. Clearly that hasn't happened, but nevertheless the SCB banned their use despite what scaremonger speedibee would like everyone to believe. Rib tickling humour it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 FIM certainly took note of dangers imposed on helmet safety, and definately issued a ban. Anyone using one in a m/cycling event under FIM jurisdiction (not just FIM events) is going to lose their insurance rights, etc, if anything happened. As I understand it, the dangers were highlighted by Michael Schumacher's ski-ing accident, when he was apparently wearing a helmet-cam. The helmet manufacturers themselves then approached sporting bodies such as the FIM to emphasise the dangers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) No getting away from the fact that Gospeed have a stranglehold on Speedway rights (for right or wrong you choose.... ) Strange how many top riders continue to use Go pro cameras ....may be they need educated on the dangers!! Edited February 3, 2016 by topaz325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 what a complete load of waffle , helmets come with go pro mounts moulded in , and they can also be mounted on the side of a helmet , Didn't the investigation into Michael Schumachers severe head injury conclude that the fact that Schumacher landed directly on the camera mount part of his helmet, contributed significantly to the extent of the injury that he suffered, and that without the GoPro camera / mount being there, the effectiveness of the helmet in preventing injury would have been enhanced? Something to do with the focussing of impact pressure on a small surface area as opposed to dissipating it across a wider area? OK so it was a skiing accident, but so what? It was a head injury, for someone wearing a helmet with a GoPro on it. What does it matter about the when's and where's. Pretty sure you can plug in a small camera like a go pro to improve the quality of the image no end. I'm pretty sure you can't. Periscope (and Meercat come to that) don't offer video source options that I could see, when I tried them out last night, so you are stuck with the camera built in to the device that you have Periscope / Meercat installed on, and that's it. Now on the other hand, if there is a video camera, with a built in Android back-end to it, allowing for 4G connectivity...and if the device was compatable with Periscope / Meercat, then you may be in business... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Didn't the investigation into Michael Schumachers severe head injury conclude that the fact that Schumacher landed directly on the camera mount part of his helmet, contributed significantly to the extent of the injury that he suffered, and that without the GoPro camera / mount being there, the effectiveness of the helmet in preventing injury would have been enhanced? Something to do with the focussing of impact pressure on a small surface area as opposed to dissipating it across a wider area? OK so it was a skiing accident, but so what? It was a head injury, for someone wearing a helmet with a GoPro on it. What does it matter about the when's and where's. I don't know if there ever was any conclusions released to the public but the investigators believed that it might have been the case: But now investigators believe that they may have found a reason for the seriousness of the crash. They think that his helmet camera could have actually worsened the blown, and caused the helmet to shatter into pieces. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/michael-schumacher/10640839/Michael-Schumacher-skiing-crash-did-helmet-camera-cause-head-injuries.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 So if the camera was handlebar mounted it would be ok......no, its about the Gospeed rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 So if the camera was handlebar mounted it would be ok......no, its about the Gospeed rights. Actually yes, that is allowed. So it's not a GoSpeed thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Actually yes, that is allowed. So it's not a GoSpeed thing. In a BSPA meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 In a BSPA meeting? SR 12.1.1 All Helmets must be used as manufactured. Only the appendicies provided by the Helmet manufacturer (ie. air-vents, scoops) are accepted. Other items, such as cameras, lights etc. not included in the original helmet design are not be permitted. With prior permission of the Meeting Referee cameras may be used if mounted on the motorcycle in a manner that will not cause injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Great just stream from the camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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