Steve Shovlar Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Playing around with Periscope last night at the Poole Speedway Quiz night it occured to me just how simple and easy this little bit of software is, and also how much carnage it can do. The footage streamedcanbe better than the Bet365 efforts of 2014, there no signing up and it would be free. How on earth could promoters police this? Hand in your phone at the turnstile? Ban fans from the stadium if caught? (There would always be someone else to take over) Could promoters use Periscope to their advantage? Is there a professional version where a stream could be set up and a charge applied for access? Lots to think about but we could see many meetings online in 2016 from around the UK. Not only live but for 24 hours afterwards. How would this affect companies such as Rerun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Playing around with Periscope last night at the Poole Speedway Quiz night it occured to me just how simple and easy this little bit of software is, and also how much carnage it can do. The footage streamedcanbe better than the Bet365 efforts of 2014, there no signing up and it would be free. How on earth could promoters police this? Hand in your phone at the turnstile? Ban fans from the stadium if caught? (There would always be someone else to take over) Could promoters use Periscope to their advantage? Is there a professional version where a stream could be set up and a charge applied for access? Lots to think about but we could see many meetings online in 2016 from around the UK. Not only live but for 24 hours afterwards. How would this affect companies such as Rerun? periscope can be used interactively , people could view pits interviews from the terraces . and be connected with their team all the way through a meeting . it could be used as a scoreboard and programme as well . promoters better get on board with this because it's coming one way or another and it would be better to be in the driving seat first off , it's virtually impossible to get kids faces out of their fones these days ,and it could be just the thing that gets a few of them back on the terraces . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Do keep up Steve, some people have already been doing this I watched a few meetings last season (including the one where Troy Batchelor fiddled his average to allow Swindon to sign Ward!) on periscope. While it's better than nothing, it's not the same level as the bet365 feeds. If you follow enough people on twitter you can find streams for quite a few meetings, or you certainly could late on last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Do keep up Steve, some people have already been doing this I watched a few meetings last season (including the one where Troy Batchelor fiddled his average to allow Swindon to sign Ward!) on periscope. While it's better than nothing, it's not the same level as the bet365 feeds. If you follow enough people on twitter you can find streams for quite a few meetings, or you certainly could late on last season. I bet tangoman .is working out how to stop it or charge for it . Gospeed yayy driving speedway into the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Haven't a clue what you good people are talking about but, then again, could never understand what Steve Shovlar was commenting on in the good old days of the Oxford Speedway Forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Haven't a clue what you good people are talking about but, then again, could never understand what Steve Shovlar was commenting on in the good old days of the Oxford Speedway Forum! Periscope is an app which allows live streaming from a mobile phone to the internet , basicly someone points the camera of a mobile at something , and anyone can log on to the net and see what they are filming , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Periscope is an app which allows live streaming from a mobile phone to the internet , basicly someone points the camera of a mobile at something , and anyone can log on to the net and see what they are filming , Thanks for the explanation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Periscope is an app which allows live streaming from a mobile phone to the internet , basicly someone points the camera of a mobile at something , and anyone can log on to the net and see what they are filming , Saw a few races from meetings last season, not too concerned about the quality, would rather see them than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Playing around with Periscope last night at the Poole Speedway Quiz night it occured to me just how simple and easy this little bit of software is, and also how much carnage it can do. The footage streamedcanbe better than the Bet365 efforts of 2014, there no signing up and it would be free. How on earth could promoters police this? Hand in your phone at the turnstile? Ban fans from the stadium if caught? (There would always be someone else to take over) Could promoters use Periscope to their advantage? Is there a professional version where a stream could be set up and a charge applied for access? Lots to think about but we could see many meetings online in 2016 from around the UK. Not only live but for 24 hours afterwards. How would this affect companies such as Rerun? Keep up Steve, the Piratecast boys were using periscope for most of last season - choosing selected heats as a taster for fans that couldn't attend!! I think it could be counter-productive to use it for whole live meetings - a bit like Sky really!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Interestingly this statement has just been issued. We would like to remind all fans that it is illegal to stream any portion of games without prior permission from the league. In recent weeks there has been an increase in the number of occasions when matches have been shown using the app Periscope. This is a breach of copyright and will be taken very seriously by all clubs in the Elite League. Anyone found to be live streaming games without prior agreement will be banned from attending games across the league. As a league it is important we embrace the ever-changing world of social media, but at the same time we have also protect our product. Published 27th January 2016. Ice Hockey EL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Speedway clubs should embrace technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Keep up Steve, the Piratecast boys were using periscope for most of last season - choosing selected heats as a taster for fans that couldn't attend!! I think it could be counter-productive to use it for whole live meetings - a bit like Sky really!! And Matt Ford didn't mind? I am wondering if there is a way to periscope away meetings for fans unable to travel. A small charge of say a fiver to watch the meeting by having to log in through a password. Not sure if the software makes it possible for this to be set up but it's a revenue stream for clubs if it is. I would be happy to pay a fiver to watch if I found it impossible to attend. I hope it is somehow embraced than the BSPA sending out a warning to fans. But I somehow doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Speedway clubs should embrace technology. You should embrace a skunk, oh wait a minute I forgot about the smell. I don't think the skunk could stand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Periscope is absolutely pointless; the quality is often poor and the angle of the view doesn't make for compelling viewing. I also go to speedway not only for the racing but for the atmosphere, company and banter with all the locals in the grandstand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Pretty sure you can plug in a small camera like a go pro to improve the quality of the image no end. Of course the stream will still be afected by bandwidth issues but playback in the 24 hours after the event should be good on wifi. And it comes down to the skill of the cameraman as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 And Matt Ford didn't mind? I am wondering if there is a way to periscope away meetings for fans unable to travel. A small charge of say a fiver to watch the meeting by having to log in through a password. Not sure if the software makes it possible for this to be set up but it's a revenue stream for clubs if it is. I would be happy to pay a fiver to watch if I found it impossible to attend. I hope it is somehow embraced than the BSPA sending out a warning to fans. But I somehow doubt it. With Piratecast primarily being an unofficial podcast about the Pirates - usually a one hour talk show between 2 fans on a Thursday evening - they took to adding a bit of commentary and footage of some selected good action to help stimulate conversation in the Piratecast chatroom and on their Twitter and facebook pages. As was said on another thread, if all clubs are to impose a 'stop and search' policy at the turnstiles an d stop people taking phones and tablets in with them, that would likely be the quickest way of reducing attendances than anything else. I can't see that anything will stop an enthusiastic and supportive fan recording a bit of action (whether using the periscope app or not) and tweeting it to their followers?! You never know it might actually entice more new fans to attend??! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingersfin Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) Glasgow hope to make much more use of the platform this year having dipped their toe in last. The new streaming integration within twitter is an exciting development. Although of course full race footage will not be permitted. Facebook mentions will also be great, once they relax it's current constraints on celebrities only. Edited January 29, 2016 by Fingersfin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) Interestingly this statement has just been issued. We would like to remind all fans that it is illegal to stream any portion of games without prior permission from the league. In recent weeks there has been an increase in the number of occasions when matches have been shown using the app Periscope. This is a breach of copyright and will be taken very seriously by all clubs in the Elite League. Anyone found to be live streaming games without prior agreement will be banned from attending games across the league. As a league it is important we embrace the ever-changing world of social media, but at the same time we have also protect our product. Published 27th January 2016. Ice Hockey EL. expect tangoman to copy and paste this anytime soon You should embrace a skunk, oh wait a minute I forgot about the smell. I don't think the skunk could stand it. Awww would be nice for someone to embrace KKS , round the throat tightly for about 5 minutes Edited January 29, 2016 by speedibee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) A football website I go on charges 20 quid a year for members to gain access to certain restricted sections that are away from the public forums (which are still 'free' the same as BSF). Maybe speedway clubs' official websites could do something similar and charge per week/month to make a few quid? Very minimal costs to set up... Would mean clubs co-operating as home teams would need to give permission for the away team to 'film' the meeting and not complain about "keeping fans away" and any 'rights owners' would have to consider the greater future growth potential of getting your message out there rather than think short term... Who knows, maybe those who run the sport could think collectively and do something 'properly' via the official British Speedway website and then share all money generated together? (So pretty much no chance of it happening then).. Edited January 30, 2016 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Speedway clubs should embrace technology. Remember the days when John Perrin wanted to ban TV cameras from Belle Vue? Several promoters wanted to ban "live speedway updates". Speedway promoters, I get the impression, are frightened of technology, when it could be used massively to promote the sport. You only need to follow professional teams from other sports on social media, especially American franchises, to see how they keep fans and media up to date with any news. Speedway clubs should embrace technology. And as for the argument that TV or streaming or the equivalent could affect attendances a) I've never understood the mentality of people, who have the chance to see live events, would rather watch it through a small screen and if the atmosphere and entertainment was better at speedway meetings, fans would come no matter what the alternatives were, because they would want to be part of the experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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