lucifer sam Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Recollections can be unreliable. The tragic death of Peter Craven is an example. Some people swear blind he started the race off a handicap, but several Edinburgh historians put the record straight - he started off the gate. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Yes some people have bad memories and other people make up stories Two occasions I remember Egon Müller telling what seemed t me to be untruths..... One time in a tv interview he said how he wasn't appreciated in his home country but was worshiped in England!!!!! Really not sure about that Another time,it was at the indoor meeting in Herning,Denmark a few years back during an interval he was interviewed on the centre and before he started to sing said "This was a big hit for me in England" Shock,horror again when I heard that,but not as horrified as I was once he started his song We shouldn't believe everything we are told Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Nigel used to be quite active on here under his "handle" which I can't remember at the moment. He took a very active part in particular along with Ross and me in arguing with BFD and the six or seven manifestations of a certain former speedway magazine editor over Johnnie Hoskins' claim to have invented speedway. He was also on Jim Blanchard's history of speedway website and came up with a lot of really interesting information. He used to spend many hours in the Newspaper Library digging out obscure information. He may still do for all I know! This the thread? http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=68597&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 This the thread? http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=68597&page=1 That's the one. Thanks, Pugwash. And it just goes to show how unreliable personal memories can be as Nigel didn't take part in that discussion after all. It must have been a similar discussion on the Speedway History site. But it was interesting to see that a certain former speedway magazine editor used five different pseudonyms during the course of the debate so he could argue with himself. Dear oh dear. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 What about Tom Stenner?Never read any of his annuals or his book Thrilling the million,so have no idea whether his work is a good read or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) But it was interesting to see that a certain former speedway magazine editor used five different pseudonyms during the course of the debate so he could argue with himself. Dear oh dear. Yes but that's all water under the bridge, he's a differant character now . Edited January 9, 2016 by pugwash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Two occasions I remember Egon Müller telling what seemed t me to be untruths..... One time in a tv interview he said how he wasn't appreciated in his home country but was worshiped in England!!!!! Really not sure about that Didn't hang around long enough to be worshipped by us Tigers fans . Did a couple of away meetings for Coatbridge Tigers in 1973 , then was offski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I don't think he was at Hull an awful lot longer was he? But I guess this must be the period he was talking about,as normally he is dismissed at least on here as being a one hit wonder and one of the worst world champs in history 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I don't think he was at Hull an awful lot longer was he? But I guess this must be the period he was talking about,as normally he is dismissed at least on here as being a one hit wonder and one of the worst world champs in history Like Jerzy Szackiel before him , right place at the right time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 But it was interesting to see that a certain former speedway magazine editor used five different pseudonyms during the course of the debate so he could argue with himself. Dear oh dear. I think John claimed some time ago that he only did all that to stir up debate on a thread by increasing the number of posts, but the thing was, the thread was actually moving on nicely enough without him doing all that. Looking back at it now, it actually looks like the behaviour of someone with psychosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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