lewy Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think more elite clubs should think about joining the pl I didn't say move down because I dont think its a step down nowadays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 The elite league is getting weaker but the premier league is also getting stronger. Not many riders have left the PL and moved up to EL on a permanent basis, whereas quite a few established EL riders have doubled down. As long as we continue to have so many riders doubling up and down I think the gap will continue to close. How has the PL got stronger? There is nowhere near as many out and out number 1 top riders in the league like we had a few years ago that's for sure. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 It killed Newcastle last time we tried and if we close again, we're done for as we would never get planning permission to reopen at Brough Park. Absolutely not worth the risk. It killed Newcastle last time we tried and if we close again, we're done for as we would never get planning permission to reopen at Brough Park. Absolutely not worth the risk. When Newcastle were convinced to go up , they were left to fend for themselves. they should have been helped to guarantee a good no 1and share the top riders around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) better off out of that overpriced , under strength shambles . I assume you are referring to the Elite League... however..Under strength.. but stronger than the PL....Over priced, but some PL clubs charge as much.. So perhaps I assumed wrong, must be the Premier League you are talking about as that is the only league that fits your statement. My own thoughts, I don't care which league it is, they both have their good and bad points and both can provide excellent speedway. Edited December 21, 2015 by BWitcher 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I assume you are referring to the Elite League... however..Under strength.. but stronger than the PL....Over priced, but some PL clubs charge as much.. So perhaps I assumed wrong, must be the Premier League you are talking about as that is the only league that fits your statement. My own thoughts, I don't care which league it is, they both have their good and bad points and both can provide excellent speedway. Oh - you do attend then. You must do to make a statement like that. Or - are you going on hearsay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I read somewhere on here - but unfortunately can't remember where - a few years ago the cost of a season in the PL was about 250k and the elite more like 350-400k. From a Glasgow Edinburgh point of view to lose the derby when we're both doing well would be terrible. The PL can occasionally be a wash out but there's a lot of exciting meetings and riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) My own thoughts, I don't care which league it is, they both have their good and bad points and both can provide excellent speedway. Not just your thoughts, I completely agree. There's far too many bigoted, biased, ignorant remarks made on here regarding which one of the leagues offers the best entertainment. I saw some cracking speedway (and some not so cracking speedway) in all the leagues last season. The only thing I would say is that most of the best racing tracks - Somerset, Plymouth, Peterborough, Scunthorpe - are in the PL. One final point: if the losses (and profits) made by EL and PL tracks combined are compared, I bet the PL loses more money per club. Edited December 21, 2015 by Halifaxtiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Not just your thoughts, I completely agree. There's far too many bigoted, biased, ignorant remarks made on here regarding which one of the leagues offers the best entertainment. I saw some cracking speedway (and some not so cracking speedway) in all the leagues last season. The only thing I would say is that most of the best racing tracks - Somerset, Plymouth, Peterborough, Scunthorpe - are in the PL. One final point: if the losses (and profits) made by EL and PL tracks combined are compared, I bet the PL loses more money per club. If you include Sponsors (Television Publicity) you are probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Agree,it's certainty not an "elite" product ,can't see many PL promotions making that mistake.One league would be the best solution IMO. The major problem with one league is what do you call it then?It wouldn't be as strong as the Elite,so you can't call it that and it would be stronger than the Premier,so you really can't call it that.Calling the top league 'Elite' seems to give lots of people a problem,so I imagine this new big league will fail at the first stage of thinking up a name that will please everyone,before they even start on team building and rules......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 The major problem with one league is what do you call it then?It wouldn't be as strong as the Elite,so you can't call it that and it would be stronger than the Premier,so you really can't call it that.Calling the top league 'Elite' seems to give lots of people a problem,so I imagine this new big league will fail at the first stage of thinking up a name that will please everyone,before they even start on team building and rules......... Of course if it does become one 'big' League perhaps the BSPA could find a League Sponsor - no problem with League name then. The 'Walkers Crisps' Speedway League for example. But will the BSPA or Gospeed put themselves about to do that? We must wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Where would the riders come from for one big league? Just about every team has 2 or 3 double uppers in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I assume you are referring to the Elite League... however..Under strength.. but stronger than the PL....Over priced, but some PL clubs charge as much.. So perhaps I assumed wrong, must be the Premier League you are talking about as that is the only league that fits your statement. My own thoughts, I don't care which league it is, they both have their good and bad points and both can provide excellent speedway. Oh - you do attend then. You must do to make a statement like that. Or - are you going on hearsay? Not necessarily. You don't attend, but still have an opinion. There has been plenty EL and PL shown on the Tele to provide a clue to the good/bad racing experience, I would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Of course if it does become one 'big' League perhaps the BSPA could find a League Sponsor - no problem with League name then. The 'Walkers Crisps' Speedway League for example. But will the BSPA or Gospeed put themselves about to do that? We must wait and see. It's more likely to be The Surecare Plumbing services league and if the NL gets a sponsor,say The Utopia Hair-Beauty Aberdeen League,then no-one will know what is the top or bottom league........ I'm sure if they don't get the name exactly right,then a lot of people will just call it a day on this issue Edited December 21, 2015 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Oh - you do attend then. You must do to make a statement like that. Or - are you going on hearsay? I attend more than you do I'm not boycotting the sport because a rule I don't like was made fairer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 The major problem with one league is what do you call it then?It wouldn't be as strong as the Elite,so you can't call it that and it would be stronger than the Premier,so you really can't call it that.Calling the top league 'Elite' seems to give lots of people a problem,so I imagine this new big league will fail at the first stage of thinking up a name that will please everyone,before they even start on team building and rules.........British League will do.The sport is in decline in GB and needs to re- invent itself.One league would be a start IMO . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Where would the riders come from for one big league? Just about every team has 2 or 3 double uppers in it. The main reason Chris Louis said on local radio a few weeks back why it's highly unlikely to happen. Edited December 21, 2015 by Hong Kong Phooey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Wouldnt mind it if the Panthers eventualy ended up being back in the Elite League, but rules need looking at massively before the moment any team is interested in taking the plunge to the Average league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 For me it would not matter what league my team rode in, Elite, Premier or National, I would still attend meetings and support the team basically because I love the sport and love my team. And I don't think the racing in as better in any of the leagues, you will get your fair share of good and bad meetings any of the leagues. But of them all my preferred choice is the Premier, there is a wider choice of opposition, and more competition to go at. League KO Cup League Cup Play Off's Fours Pairs League Riders Championship Premier League all the way for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I'd love to see a large European League, say for example, top 4 British, 4 Polish, 4 Danish, 4 Swedish, all the worlds best riders. Then have one big British League..plus a National League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Oh - you do attend then. You must do to make a statement like that. Or - are you going on hearsay? This is somewhat ironic!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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