Hamish McRaker Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Purely hypothetical question: Is there a current Premier League club, which would want and/or be able to join the Elite League for 2016 season, or maybe 2017, should a vacancy arise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Only a brave club with loads of spare cash to burn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 With the further reduction in GP riders in the EL then we are getting closer to the possibility of having one big league ..... I certainly don't want to see GP riders sharing the no 1 spot as has been suggested .... I'd rather go without them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Definitely wouldn't want to despite Glasgow looking like they've got the cash to do it. There's very little "Elite" about it in my opinion. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 It killed Newcastle last time we tried and if we close again, we're done for as we would never get planning permission to reopen at Brough Park. Absolutely not worth the risk. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Purely hypothetical question: Is there a current Premier League club, which would want and/or be able to join the Elite League for 2016 season, or maybe 2017, should a vacancy arise? I think the only club with that level of financial resources would be Glasgow. They didn't want to move up for 2016 - I'm not sure beyond that. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I must admit I was abit disapointted that Somerset didn't for 2016 - I fancied abit of a change and the chance to bring back riders like Jason Doyle etc seems like a massive plus. I believe Somerset to be the best race track in the Country and having the best riders in the best league in this country I think would only enhance it and provide great entertainment. Whether it is financially viable is a question I couldn't answer as I have no idea on the cost implications and money available, just a selfish wish of my own more than anything else. I too like many others thought we were heading towards 1 big league for 2016, so maybe that'll be on the horizon for 2017 or 2018. I certainly don't want to see GP riders sharing the no 1 spot as has been suggested .... I'd rather go without them Why not? I think that would be the best thing possible for the EL, to offer a job sharing position for the No.1 role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Definitely wouldn't want to despite Glasgow looking like they've got the cash to do it. There's very little "Elite" about it in my opinion.Agree,it's certainty not an "elite" product ,can't see many PL promotions making that mistake.One league would be the best solution IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 It's catch a falling knife at the moment. And with Glasgow putting prices up to remain in the Premier, I don't see how we'd cope in the Elite. TBH I think it's a bit of a joke at the moment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 What Premier League Promoter with any sense at all would want to take his Club up in to the Elite League? Too expensive to run, not enough Teams, not enough variety of Competition - they would be mad to even think about it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) What Premier League Promoter with any sense at all would want to take his Club up in to the Elite League? Too expensive to run, not enough Teams, not enough variety of Competition - they would be mad to even think about it. Are there closures to validate the claim the Elite League is too expensive to run? Is there even any kind of validation in that point if there were as it entirely depends in part on the business model of the promotion running the club, Poole for example doesn’t strike me as being too expensive to run. I assume the counter to this will be examples such as Eastbourne and Birmingham but the same could be applied in reference to the PL and IOW and Stoke in recent memory. Despite the many negatives regards the EL there are just as many possible bonuses for clubs, the TV exposure being the main one if they were to exploit it correctly, the promotion of better riders and better opposition sides. Despite the fact that the EL is regularly positioned as the evil of the sport, there are sides in areas with a far smaller catchment area for fans and sponsors who appear to perform and run a far more stable model than most PL clubs, possibly that might be the reason why some would see the upside of a change of league, the unfortunate thing in Speedway though, it appears anyway, is that some become far to content with their position of big fish, small pond. Edited December 21, 2015 by sparkafag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Until the elite league brings financial reward for finishing positions like some other sports, i don't see any reason to be in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Until the elite league brings financial reward for finishing positions like some other sports, i don't see any reason to be in it. Fair point well put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 The elite league is getting weaker but the premier league is also getting stronger. Not many riders have left the PL and moved up to EL on a permanent basis, whereas quite a few established EL riders have doubled down. As long as we continue to have so many riders doubling up and down I think the gap will continue to close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 i also think one league , or north/ south leagues with top two from each league into play-offs is the way forward,however tho a poole supporter i strongly feel that any combined league structure should be driven by the premier league clubs and they should not be bullied or held to ransom over assets by 3or4 current elite league clubs.has to be a level playing field and if poole bell vue and cov finish in bottom half of league so be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 better off out of that overpriced , under strength shambles . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenway Bleachers Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Even though people seem to think Glasgow could afford to go Elite , I cant see it being viable . We have Edinburgh , Berwick , Workington and Newcastle , all within two to three hours drive away and meetings against those clubs always get a decent away following turning up at Ashfield . Belle Vue would be our local derby in the Elite League 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Even though people seem to think Glasgow could afford to go Elite , I cant see it being viable . We have Edinburgh , Berwick , Workington and Newcastle , all within two to three hours drive away and meetings against those clubs always get a decent away following turning up at Ashfield . Belle Vue would be our local derby in the Elite LeagueCant see many fans of Northern Teams wanting EL racing.PL is a decent product compared to EL IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think that for clubs to move up into the Elite League from the Premier League they need to look at the last three clubs who have made the move. Birmingham is went bust and moved down to the National League. Leicester have been far from a raging success and appear to be have problems building a team for this season with the insistence that they run on a Saturday night. Kings Lynn are the only one of the three who have had any degree of success and managed to make a decent success in the league. Add to the fact that Ipswich have moved down, and Peterborough move down to the Premier League, and Eastbourne move down two leagues to the National League. I think that it would take a very brave Promoter to even consider moving up into the Elite League. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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