semion Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Could this be Cooks Gerald Ratner moment ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Here you are, a medical term now used as a term of abuse. Liam and I didn't use the word as a term of abuse, you did. remeber :- http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/retarded And another one:- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/retarded No your right mate and just for the record I wouldn't call anyone a retard or retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 With remarks like that you should be banned from the site. 1. A complete insult to Jon Cook ....... I am not a fan of his but that remark is totally out of order 2. A complete insult to the members of this site. 3. If you were banned then I don't think your comments / remarks would be missed Well said Kirky Lane, totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 I thought for a minute that it was another cost saving measure by the BSPA and we'd be using retreads in 2016. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Stop trying to deflect the issue away from your beloved Jon Cook making an utterly foolish comment. One in which any other sport he would be disciplined for. One that can ONLY do damage to the sport and lose fans. Not trying to deflect the issue at all. Sidney was the one that noted the point first and he is no Cook lover. Criticise Cook as much as you like but you are the one that lectures the forum endlessly on the merits of intelligent debate as opposed to name calling and now you seem to be endorsing a slang term of abuse that relates to disability . As I have already said I haven't read the full article yet so I don't have an opinion on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Wtf???!!! Talk about an old fashioned narrow minded view...it's a derogatory term ffs...seriouslyThis is not my view by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 You can't go making statements like that without evidence. So here it is...... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3132042/Karl-Oyston-s-offensive-text-messages-revealed-FA-release-Blackpool-chairman-s-abusive-rant.html In which case you are just as guilty by using the same word to describe someone! Wtf???!!! Talk about an old fashioned narrow minded view...it's a derogatory term ffs...seriouslyOne It's been turned into a derogatory term from an outdated one but as far as I'm concerned it's still a below the belt comment. Having worked in children's disability I have heard the term retard used to describe them which to me stems from old fashioned beliefs, rudeness and ignorance. Plus it's just not a pleasant word to describe anyone. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) In which case you are just as guilty by using the same word to describe someone! .Erm, I used Jon Cooks thoughts and flipped them on him. And if Jon Cook was one of my employers clients of fully expect to lose my job for calling him such a thing. Lucky we don't sell to stupid people! Regarding he term retard, I would never use it to describe someone who had an illness or disability. And I doubt anyone with any decency ever would. But that doesn't mean the word can't be used in its correct way. You wouldn't call a gay person queer but you might someone being odd as queer. Edited December 17, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 SCB deserves a holiday for his remarks, if he doesn't get one then thats a very poor show from the mods and it will be looked at as favoritisum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 All this should sell a few Speedway Stars! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 SCB deserves a holiday for his remarks, if he doesn't get one then thats a very poor show from the mods and it will be looked at as favoritisum.Which remarks? Come on starman, shock us all and answer a direct question. Which remarks of mine deserve a ban? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Erm, I used Jon Cooks thoughts and flipped them on him. And if Jon Cook was one of my employers clients of fully expect to lose my job for calling him such a thing. Lucky we don't sell to stupid people! Erm, I know what you did! But since when has 2 wrongs made a right! I disagree wholly with Cooks comments just to be clear, however you posted a link comparing Oyston's remarks with Cooks and you have done exactly the same thing!! Flipped or not! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Which remarks? Come on starman, shock us all and answer a direct question. Which remarks of mine deserve a ban? The one at the top of the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 This will be 100 pages no danger, just nipping out for popcorn... Brb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 The one at the top of the thread.Which comments, quote them. The exact words I have said that deserve a ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Erm, I used Jon Cooks thoughts and flipped them on him. And if Jon Cook was one of my employers clients of fully expect to lose my job for calling him such a thing. Lucky we don't sell to stupid people! Regarding he term retard, I would never use it to describe someone who had an illness or disability. And I doubt anyone with any decency ever would. But that doesn't mean the word can't be used in its correct way. You wouldn't call a gay person queer but you might someone being odd as queer. Excuse me. You are not flipping Cooks words. You are introducing an unsavoury outdated and offensive word so you catch attention for yourself, and in doing so, shows how low you will stoop to do so. No matter that you have 'friends' on here who will support you, it just means the gang mentality is still on going. Do yourself a favour and delete the thread. Another rant just to shock. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Erm, I know what you did! But since when has 2 wrongs made a right! I disagree wholly with Cooks comments just to be clear, however you posted a link comparing Oyston's remarks with Cooks and you have done exactly the same thing!! Flipped or not! I haven't done the same thing, I don't have any fans to call stupid. Jon Cook has called speedway fans stupid and the Blackpool guy called Blackpool fans retards. As far as I'm aware I don't own or run a sport team to be calling it's fans stupid or retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Which comments, quote them. The exact words I have said that deserve a ban. At the top of the thread, the word you used to discribe Jon Cook. Or have you suddenly lost your abillity to read as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Excuse me. You are not flipping Cooks words. You are introducing an unsavoury outdated and offensive word so you catch attention for yourself, and in doing so, shows how low you will stoop to do so. No matter that you have 'friends' on here who will support you, it just means the gang mentality is still on going. Do yourself a favour and delete the thread. Another rant just to shock. Jon Cook said, "Grading of heat leaders was done by common consensus of the EL promoters via an open poll and anyone thinking that's wrong is either thick or biased, or both." That's where I got my quote from. At the top of the thread, the word you used to discribe Jon Cook. Or have you suddenly lost your abillity to read as well.. Which word? The words he used to describe fans or the word Middlo used to describe fans? Is it stupid, biased or retarded you take offence to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Jon Cook said, "Grading of heat leaders was done by common consensus of the EL promoters via an open poll and anyone thinking that's wrong is either thick or biased, or both." That's where I got my quote from. No you didn't, don't try to wriggle out of it. Cook never said he was a retard, YOU DID. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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