ColinMills Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 a rider wears so many race jackets per season, im sure all they care about is a full diary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 For the club's I agree. Most riders couldn't care less where they ride. Only a few are loyal to one club, Poole and Wolves are lucky to have some loyalty.Poole? Loyalty? Just where is this loyalty? Holder did 5 years, pissed off for a year, Ward did 5 years. Other than that? As for Wolves, Lindgren I'll give you and even Wells at a push, then what? BV have had Cook a while now, sure that's loyalty? Lakeside have Nilsson back for about the 6th year now too. Harris is into season 11 of 13 at Coventry. Clubs and riders are not loyal any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 So can you view asett lists anywhere or not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Poole? Loyalty? Just where is this loyalty? Holder did 5 years, pissed off for a year, Ward did 5 years. Other than that? As for Wolves, Lindgren I'll give you and even Wells at a push, then what? BV have had Cook a while now, sure that's loyalty? Lakeside have Nilsson back for about the 6th year now too. Harris is into season 11 of 13 at Coventry. Clubs and riders are not loyal any more. Like I said MOST riders besides the odd few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 funnily enough Poole now own all the Frosts Panthers assets.... I'd love to know how much changed hands in that bit of bargaining.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Pure putty I would think!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Poole? Loyalty? Just where is this loyalty? Holder did 5 years, pissed off for a year, Ward did 5 years. Other than that? As for Wolves, Lindgren I'll give you and even Wells at a push, then what? BV have had Cook a while now, sure that's loyalty? Lakeside have Nilsson back for about the 6th year now too. Harris is into season 11 of 13 at Coventry. Clubs and riders are not loyal any more. Think its all down to figures nowadays mate. Bit different when you had no team building or very little team building average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Think its all down to figures nowadays mate. Bit different when you had no team building or very little team building average.I agree totally. I think between the points limit and the fact that these days, travelling from Sweden and Poland every week means that riders may as well travel in the UK too has meant there very little loyalty on either side. The riders don't have long careers so I don't blaming them for chasing the money - I would! In fact I have in my own career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I think if an asset system has to exist, there needs to be a requirement that unless the "owning" club employs the rider within a declared team, within (say) a two-year period, the rider ceases to be an asset of that club. Any period when the rider is injured, would be added on to the two years. But overall I'd be surprised if the asset system is lawful now, so better if it gets aboloshed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I think if an asset system has to exist, there needs to be a requirement that unless the "owning" club employs the rider within a declared team, within (say) a two-year period, the rider ceases to be an asset of that club. Any period when the rider is injured, would be added on to the two years. But overall I'd be surprised if the asset system is lawful now, so better if it gets aboloshed. Was about to post the very same. Think the asset system should be abolished and couldn't ever see it standing up in a court of law. That said, if it does remain, there should be a time limit (2 years sounds reasonable) and a maximum number limit of retained assets (say 15 to 20). To me it seems ridiculous that a rider could do 12 meetings for a team in 2010, receive no payment/employment in subsequent years yet a promotion retains a hold over his UK registration. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Was about to post the very same. Think the asset system should be abolished and couldn't ever see it standing up in a court of law. That said, if it does remain, there should be a time limit (2 years sounds reasonable) and a maximum number limit of retained assets (say 15 to 20). To me it seems ridiculous that a rider could do 12 meetings for a team in 2010, receive no payment/employment in subsequent years yet a promotion retains a hold over his UK registration. That's no good for Poole who only "use" riders for a season (most of them anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Was about to post the very same. Think the asset system should be abolished and couldn't ever see it standing up in a court of law. That said, if it does remain, there should be a time limit (2 years sounds reasonable) and a maximum number limit of retained assets (say 15 to 20). To me it seems ridiculous that a rider could do 12 meetings for a team in 2010, receive no payment/employment in subsequent years yet a promotion retains a hold over his UK registration. .....exactly, and still be entitled to charge a loan fee!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Isn't it a bit strange that the asset system has never been challenged in law?! Not sure exactly who would benefit one way or the other? It doesn't seem to make a huge difference to the riders; and if enough promoters were against it surely they would be the ones to challenge it?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I agree totally. I think between the points limit and the fact that these days, travelling from Sweden and Poland every week means that riders may as well travel in the UK too has meant there very little loyalty on either side. The riders don't have long careers so I don't blaming them for chasing the money - I would! In fact I have in my own career. Nothing wrong with chasing the money, but that in its self has killed British speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Interesting reading Dak's comments in the SS about his transfer to Poole. He said it was 'Out of his hands' and hoped to be back at Swindon soon. Makes you wonder if it was done without his knowledge......... This could really open up a can of worms...... The mind boggles on the deception of it all..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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