Shale Searcher Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 For instance,any club can only have, say 9 Riders as assets.. Is it dangerous for clubs to have more assets than team places available? When you hit 9 riders as assets, if you then want to buy another rider, you have to release one (sell one) Just want people's thoughts on the subject.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) The only asset a club should have is the rider's contract. Once that expires they should be a free agent as they are in every other sport in the world (i know somebody wil point out one where they are not). Amazed that nobody has challenged it in court yet. Edited December 13, 2015 by AlanF 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Assets mean nothing. Riders will ride where they want to anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Assets mean nothing. Riders will ride where they want to anyway.Assets mean getting money off other clubs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Assets mean getting money off other clubs.. And a nice little side line for Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANANAMAN Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 lisa-colette, on 13 Dec 2015 - 2:50 PM, said:Assets mean getting money off other clubs.. I think I know what you mean Lisa ... Perhaps some clubs could use the asset base as a tool to get other Promotions to agree to their " proposals " in return for the other clubs using their assets at a favourable price . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think I know what you mean Lisa ... Perhaps some clubs could use the asset base as a tool to get other Promotions to agree to their " proposals " in return for the other clubs using their assets at a favourable price . Yes, you could try that if you wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 If a club invests in a rider then why should they not benefit from a loan fee if they loan them out? This is a free economy country and Speedway is a business. All other sports loan their assets out and either get a fee or some kind of return. Why should it be any different in speedway. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Speedway riders are self employed and only sign contracts which last 8 months at a time. No rider should be an asset of any particular club, as has been said if it was ever challenged in court speedway would have to fall in line with every other sport. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 If a club invests in a rider then why should they not benefit from a loan fee if they loan them out? This is a free economy country and Speedway is a business. All other sports loan their assets out and either get a fee or some kind of return. Why should it be any different in speedway. The difference is in other sports the club is contracted to pay the player regardless of whether they play or not. AFAIK clubs don't pay riders if they are not named in the squad for the season. Clubs would soon stop hoarding riders if that were the case 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Assets should not now be recognised unless money has changed hands ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Is there a list of the asset base for clubs in this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think I know what you mean Lisa ... Perhaps some clubs could use the asset base as a tool to get other Promotions to agree to their " proposals " in return for the other clubs using their assets at a favourable price . Yeh, somemink like that.. Is there a list of the asset base for clubs in this country Poole.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 If a club invests in a rider then why should they not benefit from a loan fee if they loan them out? This is a free economy country and Speedway is a business. All other sports loan their assets out and either get a fee or some kind of return. Why should it be any different in speedway. Pretty sure in football if a team loans a player out they even pay most of the wage.Just imagine the wage bill for Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 If a club invests in a rider then why should they not benefit from a loan fee if they loan them out? This is a free economy country and Speedway is a business. All other sports loan their assets out and either get a fee or some kind of return. Why should it be any different in speedway. You are correct, it is a free economy. Once a worker has completed a contract they are free to go and work for whoever they choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Pretty sure in football if a team loans a player out they even pay most of the wage.Just imagine the wage bill for Ford Only for loaniees in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Only for loaniees in this country. Pretty sure I was replying to a comment about sport in this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) You are correct, it is a free economy. Once a worker has completed a contract they are free to go and work for whoever they choose.Is there any suggestion that a rider who wants to ride in this country has been stopped earning a living here because the owner of the club to whom he is an asset has stopped him riding? Edited December 13, 2015 by Sherborne Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Is there any suggestion that a rider who wants to ride in this country has been stopped earning a living here because the owner of the club to whom he is an asset has stopped him riding? I think if a deal can't be agreed by a certain date they have to be loaned at a preset loan fee (I may be wrong there). Even so, there.is no reason why a club should be entitled to a loan fee and the market for a rider is reduced to those willing to pay the loan fee. I think Kus has been trying to get away from Redcar a few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Assets mean getting money off other clubs.. For the club's I agree. Most riders couldn't care less where they ride. Only a few are loyal to one club, Poole and Wolves are lucky to have some loyalty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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