Daniel Smith Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Those that want Roscoe sacked need to explain is, which Brits he should of signed over what he's already got? Woffy not in the EL Harris and King always staying at Cov Lambert at King's Lynn So what people are saying is Swindon should run a Premier League outfit in the Elite League? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) If you're going down that route you've just employed and/or Peter Adams! I'd not have Screen or Havvy there though. If I was going to have a motivator, Dave Norris would be my man That does not mean you should get the job, but I think you need to achieve something in the sport as a team manager . before you are considered for it . Edited December 14, 2015 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Don't think there is a big queue waiting for the job!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) What signal does this send out and is it time for Roscoe to step down as GB team manager and let someone else come in ? I personally find the question utterly meh, but the counter could just as easily be, what signal does it send out always signing riders because of their nationality? You could argue that there are standards to be met and British riders need to be better than they currently are before they can sign for EL sides let alone race at a World Cup, and setting that water mark is a better way to encourage development? If we kick all riders out of the league who aren’t British and Swindon have 5 Brits and all of a sudden the likes of Kennet are carrying 9.00 + EL averages do you think that means Team GB will perform better at a World Cup because I would say it is safe to assume they won’t. There is already enough being done to increase the churn of British riders as it is, what you are advocating is diluting the product down further thus meaning Brits will be even further out of their depth when they come up against World Class riders. If the trend of dumbing down the product goes on we will eventually dumb down British riders as well, case and example being when it comes to this year’s World Cup meeting, the other sides aren’t going to offer Brits an easy time this year just because the tournament is being held in this country, it doesn’t work like that at the top level. I would assume most would rather the Brits who are actually going to the world stage were racing the world’s best as often as possible and thus they are more “race ready” when they reach those meetings rather than simply getting an easy time of it every week because of their nationality. It’s hardly encouraging improvement once riders reach a certain level, at some stage they have to do it themselves or at least shoulder some responsibility because truth be told the path to that level in this country is currently a bit of an open goal given it is 3.00 averages to begin a career and fast tracked reserve positions etc and so on. That and the straight forward answer which is managing Swindon and managing Team GB both have completely different criteria, requests and goals to be met. Edited December 14, 2015 by sparkafag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Get rid of Rosco? The guy has already got us to the World Final next season. I think you'll find it was David Gordon and Chris Morton who got us to the final by building the new stadium and getting the SWC final allocated to Manchester. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I think you'll find it was David Gordon and Chris Morton who got us to the final by building the new stadium and getting the SWC final allocated to Manchester.I'm pretty sure that's a whoosh! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Wonder if Cookie, the GB no 2 would be selected by AR next year. Hasn't happened much in the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 lets face it, 90% of us knows the riders whose going to be selected in Manchester. im sure we could all throw the double move in when needed, what else is there to do?..Managers have very little say in the outcome. A mechanic"s the most important person by far. With no team riding in the world cup, its simply, gate and go. Very little tactics required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 1983 Cup winner Rosco is still the best man for the job - just got to make sure he goes to the right pit area if Aus reach the SWC final Hope GB are in the Speedway Best Pairs from the off this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 lets face it, 90% of us knows the riders whose going to be selected in Manchester. im sure we could all throw the double move in when needed, what else is there to do?..Managers have very little say in the outcome. A mechanic"s the most important person by far. With no team riding in the world cup, its simply, gate and go. Very little tactics required Depends on the remit (I appreciate you're talking specifically about next year's final). In general terms, and this is not a kick against Rosco because I don't know how the parameters of the job were put to him, I would like to think the job enabled -- nay, required -- the manager to have strong and coherent views across the board concerning the organisation and structure of British speedway, how to develop British riders and somehow return the national team to the top of the tree. That's a far-reaching brief and the GB manager, for me, who seemed to have the surest hand on the tiller was Rob Lyon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 He comes across as a complete prat. And as GB team manager, he becomes - by default - a spokesperson for the sport in this country. But is he any worse than Neil Middleditch? I'm afraid it's very thin pickings at present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 but is Rosco the sharpest knife in the drawer?......but would have either Screeny or Havvy in the pits for motivation. Screeny didnt last long as sheffield manager did he?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Wonder if Cookie, the GB no 2 would be selected by AR next year. Hasn't happened much in the past. Cook asked not to be picked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Must have been having mechanical issues at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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