LisaColette Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm afraid this topic seems to have descended into bickering and oneupmanship, as so many posts seem to? How sad .That always happens with Garrity/Newman discussions on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) We missed an opportunity to choose a rider in the EDR draft who wasn't even part of the process? How stupid of us...... And how silly of us not knowing who is on what fictitious 'list' (of which there seem to be a few at the moment) the BSPA and clubs keep referring to! That always happens with Garrity/Newman discussions on here! Ahem, I was trying to make a valid point, there was no bickering on my part Ms C and the saucy one Edited November 23, 2015 by chris4gillian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 That always happens with Garrity/Newman discussions on here! I wonder why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I wonder why. It has naff all to do with Swindon...but you're on this thread...so I don't wonder why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Garrity has ambition and wants to prove himself in the main body of the team. I think Newman would lose his place at Poole if he didn't agree to be on the draft. They don't like Brits in their top 5 oohhh get them claws out ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 It has naff all to do with Swindon...but you're on this thread...so I don't wonder why It has something to do with all the league😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 And how silly of us not knowing who is on what fictitious 'list' (of which there seem to be a few at the moment) the BSPA and clubs keep referring to! Ahem, I was trying to make a valid point, there was no bickering on my part Ms C and the saucy one My comment wasn't aimed at you, was just at posters in general. But if it was aimed at a specific person would be a Bees fan, not you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 So because Garrity makes a decision that suits him, but costs his team, that apparently means that Newman lacks ambition and wouldn't get a team place at Poole but for the EDR. Only on the BSF. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 So because Garrity makes a decision that suits him, but costs his team, that apparently means that Newman lacks ambition and wouldn't get a team place at Poole but for the EDR. Only on the BSF. Anyone suggesting Newman doesn't have ambition is a bit gone in the head! The guy turns up and rides anywhere in Europe there is a meeting taking place - a lot more than pretty much any other British rider (Woffy aside) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Anyone suggesting Newman doesn't have ambition is a bit gone in the head! The guy turns up and rides anywhere in Europe there is a meeting taking place - a lot more than pretty much any other British rider (Woffy aside) Exactly...................and as Skidder1 said where is Garrity when it comes to riding in Poland............if anyone lacks ambition I would say it is Garrity for not wanting to get himself known over there.................... I will keep my real thoughts on Garrity to myself.............. RP Wondered how long it would be before you started barking Newman was only ever going to be at reserve before the draft was put in place as he has been now for several years. Wondered how long it would be before you started spouting your anti Poole and Newman crap again..............did not take long did it................. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 So because Garrity makes a decision that suits him, but costs his team, that apparently means that Newman lacks ambition and wouldn't get a team place at Poole but for the EDR. Only on the BSF. Look at who posted it. Enough said! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 dont think theres the slightest doubt had kyle not agreed to start at reserve he wouldnt have been in poole starting line up,everybody predicting he will be in the 1-5 after 4 matches probably correctly but would have thought he will be back at reserve after the next 4 matches,if not it makes kurtz a bad signing.dont think theres anything between kyle and jason at the moment,jason i think has a tad more potential 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Exactly...................and as Skidder1 said where is Garrity when it comes to riding in Poland............if anyone lacks ambition I would say it is Garrity for not wanting to get himself known over there.................... I will keep my real thoughts on Garrity to myself.............. RP Wondered how long it would be before you started spouting your anti Poole and Newman crap again..............did not take long did it................. Assuming that garrity doesnt want to get himself known over there.....making things up again, garrity does not lack ambition he gives 110% every race or just tryin to rub it in that newman got a place in poland, thats about all newman has over garrity garrity has a higher PL average, garrity done a lot better in the big events ie british final newman seems to have been around a lot longer than garrity , and hasnt progressed as fast as jason oh and another poole fan that doesnt seem to like many english riders , you probably one of those aussie flag wavers at kings lynn Edited November 23, 2015 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Assuming that garrity doesnt want to get himself known over there.....making things up again, garrity does not lack ambition he gives 110% every race or just tryin to rub it in that newman got a place in poland, thats about all newman has over garrity garrity has a higher PL average, garrity done a lot better in the big events ie british final newman seems to have been around a lot longer than garrity , and hasnt progressed as fast as jason oh and another poole fan that doesnt seem to like many english riders , you probably one of those aussie flag wavers at kings lynn So if you don't like Garrity, you don't like English riders?! That's hilarious!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm still missing the logic behind Garrity moving into the 1-5. Draft riders get averages after 4 meetings anyway. But him riding in reserve as a draft rider to start with would mean that right now Coventry would have a great team as someone like Barker could have replaced him in the 1-5 (meaning always one of Barker or Garrity in reserve) and Coventry would still have 6 points to find the last second string. We don't know if Barker is on the EDR list, but whether he is or not none of the EL teams have picked him so far and thst should tell you something. He is coming back from serious injury and until the season starts we won't know how well he is riding. It's all very well saying "someone like" Barker but realistically who is there anywhere near Barker who would realistically be available for Coventry ? Bottom line is that Garrity made it clear early on that he wanted to be out of the EDR and judged on his own merits. He is his own man and we can't knock him for that. The problem with looking too closely at averages is that if you are not careful you can raise it to almost an art form. Garrity is not my favourite rider by any means but he certainly has ambition and self belief , which are fundamental qualities for a Speedwáy rider . has done the right thing for himself and although it's a bit of a gamble if it works out for him in the long term I think it will be to the benefit of his club. If both Garrity and Sarjeant had been on the reserves list - then which one would Coventry have protected? And more to the point, would they have still got the other one in the draft? NB. For the record, Kyle Newman only agreed to go back on the list after it had been confirmed that there was the opportunity to move up after 4 meetings. As regards him 'having no spirit' or ambition, he has already ridden in Poland and the indications are good that he will do so again in 2016 - assuming Polish clubs can get their financial acts together!! I don't recall seeing Garrity's name featuring in the Polish results service?! The usual Poole response to try to turn the discussion round. Nobody has described Newman as ""having no spirit" so why do you put those words in quotes as if they did? Nobody had said Newman has no ambition. The thread is about Garrity and Coventry. The lad clearly has ambition and riding in Poland or not has nothing to do with it. Lewis Bridger got a regular team place in Poland, Craig Cook didn't, at least not on a regular basis. Who has been the most successful? Garrity has shown the determination to break away from the EDR and stand as a second string on his own merits . Newman hasn't. Those are the facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I think Garrity is looking for a team place and/or meetings abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 We don't know if Barker is on the EDR list, but whether he is or not none of the EL teams have picked him so far and thst should tell you something. He is coming back from serious injury and until the season starts we won't know how well he is riding. It's all very well saying "someone like" Barker but realistically who is there anywhere near Barker who would realistically be available for Coventry ? Well Barker is like Barker and is owned by Coventry and not signed by anyone else. So the rider like Barker that I would have signed is Ben Barker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poole Quay 7 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 i admire Garrity and his determination to win and better himself so good luck to him. Only a fool would drag Newman into this and right on cue, she did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 i admire Garrity and his determination to win and better himself so good luck to him. Only a fool would drag Newman into this and right on cue, she did Let just be thankful that for once we're arguing over how good and how ambitious a couple of young Brits are and see it for the positive it is. If only we could add a few more names to the list. If Kyle can continue his steady improvement and Jason can polish off them rough edges and get a little more consistency there no reason we can't see both riding for Team GB in a few years time and then for all the moaning of unfairness we'll be able to look back and say, "the draft worked" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Going from the conversation i had with Garrity its likely to be about ££££ not ambition.... He told me he scored 17 or something at reserve and got paid a pittance due to the fast track systems rates. Both lads are young hungry and ambitious, too suggest otherwise is ridiculous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.