SteveLyric2 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 I know this is always a topic of some discussion, but although I am a regular season ticket holder, I find it incredible that several clubs have already announced their prices/offers before they have even named their 7 riders!!! Thoughts......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 True but you do not have to buy just yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Par for the case these days & I'd be more concerned on not knowing who the heatleader list is so I had a clue who my team might have a chance of signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Spot the difference £210 £210 £210 £255 with parking and programme £215 £340 terrac, £391 grandstand, £442 pre g'stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Spot the difference £210 £210 £210 £255 with parking and programme £215 £340 terrac, £391 grandstand, £442 pre g'stand Wow! New stadium or not - that's over £24 per meeting for the terraces (based on 14 EL matches) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Wow! New stadium or not - that's over £24 per meeting for the terraces (based on 14 EL matches) It's based on 20 meetings ours. But where are these other 6 matches going to come from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Wow! New stadium or not - that's over £24 per meeting for the terraces (based on 14 EL matches) The prices PTA has stated are for 20 meetings and play off semi if we get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenspoon Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Don't forget the Parking Permits @ Eastern £120, Southern £90 Not clear on how many actual stadium parking places available. Talk of using the Cinema parking over the road, but is security going to be a problem ? Street parking questionable in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Crazy prices from Belle Vue. You'd want the swc meetings included in that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 With all the rain in Manchester will we fit in the phantom 6 meetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenspoon Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Surely not a good way for Belle Vue management to sell their season tickets, at least you would have thought that they would have said what they envisaged the extra meetings to be. As these prices were announced before the AGM did the think that the KO Cup was returning, but got vetoed by the other clubs at the AGM.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Ace Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) A complete & utter shambles from our Management. Yes, they've done amazingly to bring us the new stadium but they now need to man up, admit they've cocked it right up, & announce sensible ticket pricing. This 20 meeting nonsense is total pie in the sky...with the weather in Manchester we struggled to squeeze in 14 league meetings last year, even having to run on a sunday as well as a wednesday so how on earth do they expect to fit 20 meetings in?? And thats not even the main point - what standard are these phantom 6 meetings going to be?? Riders pull out of meetings like the ELRC so do they really think they r going to bother turning up for a crappy individual meeting as thats all i can think they will be as they wont be team meetings?? My guess is that they'll be individuals for NL standard riders on GP weekends which means anyone that buys a season ticket is in effect paying £17.00 to watch this!!!!! You'll probably find even the season ticket holders wont bother turning up for it!!! Complete joke - sort it out Management & announce that season tickets will now be £200 - £225 & people might actually buy one!! Edited November 19, 2015 by Bradford Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) As this sport in particular has many 'generic' fans, ie 'neutrals' who attend any match as and when the fixtures appeal to them. Has no one ever considered a 'generic' season ticket? I cannot believe that many clubs get more than 100 season tickets sold looking at the overall attendance levels so surely that 20k or so isn't 'make or break' for their season...? Maybe a season ticket that allows you in to ANY meeting for say £500 quid is the answer? Could British Speedway get say 5000 fans in the country to pay £500 to enable them to watch any meeting? (maybe ex play off finals)..? If they could that would bring in 2.5 million to divide up amongst the BSPA members. 21 teams in the PL and EL would get 119k each. If the 7 NL stand alones clubs were included it would mean everyone getting nearly 90k each. (although given the different cost bases for the three leagues there would be, I am sure, some dividing of the money 'pro rata' re. the amount each club gets).. Lets face it, all tracks need each other, given the parlous state of the sport in this country so maybe this would assist everyone and truly get the three leagues working together? It would also, I would suggest mean bigger attendances, (even if many are 'neutrals'). As we know the larger the attendance, the more the atmosphere, so maybe any newbies attending would be more likely to come back after their first impression of the sport being that it has a 'reasonable' following and therefore worth revisiting...? I know that if I have paid my £500 up front I would ensure I got value for money and attended as many meetings as I could and I would imagine the number of away fans in attendance would also increase. Attend 50 meetings a year (quite achievable as Nigel often tells us that Speedway takes place most night of the week!😃) and it would be a tenner a match! As I say, it would mean the teams working closely together and I would suggest, clear central control of the money split... Not a bad thing that as Speedway in this country needs to start thinking 'globally' rather than each promoter just looking at their own operation in 'splendid isolation' and also start using the 'reach' of the sport nationally for positive growth for all rather than just a select few.. Edited November 19, 2015 by mikebv 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) The management have said there will be 20 EL standard meetings so why disbelieve what they say. I agree they need to let people know what these meetings are likely to be but nobody is forcing people to buy a season ticket if they want to wait until further details are published. Also, remember that the prices include a programme, that represents a significant saving against paying at the turnstiles. We have a new stadium that will help to secure the future of Belle Vue and I am certainly prepared to pay a bit more for that and for the facilities it will provide. If you don't want a programme or don't think it is value for money don't buy a season ticket. As this sport in particular has many 'generic' fans, ie 'neutrals' who attend any match as and when the fixtures appeal to them. Has no one ever considered a 'generic' season ticket? I cannot believe that many clubs get more than 100 season tickets sold looking at the overall attendance levels so surely that 20k or so isn't 'make or break' for their season...? Maybe a season ticket that allows you in to ANY meeting for say £500 quid is the answer? Could British Speedway get say 5000 fans in the country to pay £500 to enable them to watch any meeting? (maybe ex play off finals)..? If they could that would bring in 2.5 million to divide up amongst the BSPA members. 21 teams in the PL and EL would get 119k each. If the 7 NL stand alones clubs were included it would mean everyone getting nearly 90k each. (although given the different cost bases for the three leagues there would be, I am sure, some dividing of the money 'pro rata' re. the amount each club gets).. Lets face it, all tracks need each other, given the parlous state of the sport in this country so maybe this would assist everyone and truly get the three leagues working together? It would also, I would suggest mean bigger attendances, (even if many are 'neutrals'). As we know the larger the attendance, the more the atmosphere, so maybe any newbies attending would be more likely to come back after their first impression of the sport being that it has a 'reasonable' following and therefore worth revisiting...? I know that if I have paid my £500 up front I would ensure I got value for money and attended as many meetings as I could and I would imagine the number of away fans in attendance would also increase. Attend 50 meetings a year (quite achievable as Nigel often tells us that Speedway takes place most night of the week!) and it would be a tenner a match! As I say, it would mean the teams working closely together and I would suggest, clear central control of the money split... Not a bad thing that as Speedway in this country needs to start thinking 'globally' rather than each promoter just looking at their own operation in 'splendid isolation' and also start using the 'reach' of the sport nationally for positive growth for all rather than just a select few.. Sounds an excellent idea. The extra fans attending simply to get value from their ticket would also generate extra income for those clubs who get the proceeds from food and drink sales. Edited November 19, 2015 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 It's based on 20 meetings ours. But where are these other 6 matches going to come from If you dont fancy the extra 6 meetings remember you can pay at the gate for the 14 Elite league meetings and it will cost you 50p less per meeting to stand up than it was last year.Not many fans of other clubs will be able to say this year is cheaper than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Agreed Aces51, plus extra programme sales and car parking fees for those that own and charge... Its time that Speedway in this country ran itself as 'British Speedway PLC' where all decisions are made for the greater good... The NFL has many positive elements as part of its business plan that the BSPA could do well to look at and adapt, if not copy... Edited November 19, 2015 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 I have never bought a season ticket for speedway. There is so little saving on paying meeting by meeting that once you miss a meeting the saving has gone. Bearing in mind that the season runs through the holiday season, I would have thought that they could do a deal for a ticket to attend say 8 meetings at a reduced price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I have never bought a season ticket for speedway. There is so little saving on paying meeting by meeting that once you miss a meeting the saving has gone. Bearing in mind that the season runs through the holiday season, I would have thought that they could do a deal for a ticket to attend say 8 meetings at a reduced price. Have said that for years as I go away as much as I can in the summer so a season ticket is not viable. Why not do a half season ticket for a set no of meetings as surely that is a good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I buy season tickets for the convenience but do not think they are value for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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