waiheke1 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 This refers to Rob B as well. OK was not aware of that, in which case I cancel my comment on the Joker and TS, thanks. Bloody rules. Even if that wasn't the rule, given that tai scored max points in his joker/ts ride, how would using it some otherway resulted in more points? Roscoe got it spot on. No idea what lemon was doing but he stuffed up big time. And not sure the swedes got their tactics right for the last 4 heats.Just watching it over again from last night, and the pictures confirm what I thought last night that Doyle was very hard done to with his exclusion.Really? Unlucky for sure, but the right decision. Or who do u think should have gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 If only there were more meetings like this, what a fantastic advert for the sport, clearly a teriffic facility which created cracking racing on a brilliant track. Great performance to get second, Poland were always going to win in the end. As at Cardiff Danny left it a bit late to show his form, Lambert said he wasn't on form but personally don't think he is up to this standard yet. Bit disappointed in Sweden Lindback was particularly poor and Mark Lemon once again proved he is tactically inept. Personally my first visit to the new stadium and i will be back, extremely enjoyable experience.Just one thing arn't doctors mean't to set an example to be healthy!! Peter Kenyon (Coventry) is the best there is - just ask Barry and Tony Briggs, plus many more riders That's why he's been at Cardiff for years and was at the SWC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016   Tai Woffinden @TWoffinden     @TheAces should be awarded best track in the UK would love to ride there every week bravo but until next time 8:11 am - 31 Jul 2016 Just to upset a certain Wolves fan. A brilliant final on a track that was a fitting stage for some of the world's best to show off their talent. After the rain on Thursday and Friday had made the perfectly smooth track too grippy I must admit some concern that it might still not be at its best last night but we had the sort of track many of us have now seen on a regular basis at the NSS. The track staff deserve full credit and particularly Colin Meredith. I understand that he retired last night so what an event to end on.   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) Even if that wasn't the rule, given that tai scored max points in his joker/ts ride, how would using it some otherway resulted in more points? Roscoe got it spot on. No idea what lemon was doing but he stuffed up big time. And not sure the swedes got their tactics right for the last 4 heats. Really? Unlucky for sure, but the right decision. Or who do u think should have gone? Overall it would not mean more points but winning two heats instead of one deprives the other teams of those points. Edited July 31, 2016 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 I've never seen a tyre like that myself.Danny King Ht 19.I know the guys only run 7-8 PSI but that's a great pic. Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Just watching it over again from last night, and the pictures confirm what I thought last night that Doyle was very hard done to with his exclusion. Totally disagree but all about opinions desperate move and turning into NP and PK 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Security guys wearing hard hats - what's that all about? A good decision from what I saw from my spot in the temporary stand close to turn 3. Â During Friday's meeting I saw a woman threaten to hit a security guy over the head with a beer bottle when he insisted that she couldn't smoke down in the food area by the maintenance area. In fact there were several very heated discussions with smokers during the evening despite there being many notices stating that the stadium was a no smoking area.My impression of it all was that the security guys did very decent job and dealt with any problems in a very reasonable manner whilst remaing very firm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 https://www.dropbox.com/s/b017prclk1t1vzc/Photo%2030-07-2016%2C%2018%2040%2035.jpg?dl=0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Peter Kenyon (Coventry) is the best there is - just ask Barry and Tony Briggs, plus many more riders That's why he's been at Cardiff for years and was at the SWC Didn't say he wasn't good at his job but we are all mean't to be health concious and doctors should set an example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencebel Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Congrats to Poland. A huge Congrats to Alun and the GB boys,led by our amazing world champion.. You did us proud.......... Fantastic night... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Congrats to Poland. A huge Congrats to Alun and the GB boys,led by our amazing world champion.. You did us proud.......... Fantastic night... No doubting Poland deserved it, they have the strength in depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016  I knew from the moment I saw it that, prepared properly, NSS would be something special. Last night proved it  Its not the size of the circuit, its the quality of the surface that counts. Plymouth is tiny but, prepared properly, its one of the best. Don't disagree but I would say that good speedway on a bigger, faster circuit will always be more thrilling to watch than good speedway on a smaller, tighter and ultimately slower track. Nothing quite like seeing riders going at it hammer and tongs flat out on a huge wide speedway track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Excellent meeting, superb advertisement for the sport in Britain - packed, modern stadium, professionally presented, track was great with some top notch racing, fine performance by the British boys, and the best team deservedly won. Hard to ask for much more. Agree the race off was poor, we had the same issue in nz for the 2nd gp, the track was simply too "good" and riders could simply go flat out and there was little chance of being overhauled. Sounds like the rain hampered track prep. But it is the final people will remember and what a good meeting it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) Having been there last night & having just watched the reply, I don't think anyone can deny the Poles who probably had the best 4th, 5th, 6th & 7th riders at the meeting. Woffinden was without doubt the stand out performer, with Doyle & Lindgren vying for second. For a journeyman rider the Swede's can be pretty happy with Ljungs performance IMO because Lindback & Jonsson faded badly. Â So do I think Doyle should have been excluded in what turned out to be a crucial heat 16? Very debatable, he hit Pawlicki going in and I do think Pawlicki bailed as soon as he realised that Jonsson was past in hope rather than expectation of getting a re-run. But Doyle then, showed stupid impatience proceeded to shove Cooke into the fence twice, to his credit Cooke did stay on his bike but to a massive disadvantage. Had Pawlicki been excluded how the following heats went team GB could have won or finished 4th! Had Cooke gone down, Doyle would have been excluded, had Doyle showed a modicum of patience having passed Pawlicki & Jonsson he'd have passed Cooke, he was certainly faster. Â It is a shame that Cooke & King took time to come to the party, should we be disappointed with Lambert, possibly but he 3 years younger than any other rider that competed last night and fingers crossed will benefit from the international experience. King & Cooke have had their moment at Cardiff, it's time the spot was automatically granted to Lambert. Edited July 31, 2016 by Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Didn't say he wasn't good at his job but we are all mean't to be health concious and doctors should set an example He's been my family doctor for years. He did lose a lot of weight several years ago but put it all back on. He is a great doctor though unlike a lot of others at his surgery which is why there is usually 4 week wait to see him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Â It is a shame that Cooke & King took time to come to the party, should we be disappointed with Lambert, possibly but he 3 years younger than any other rider that competed last night and fingers crossed will benefit from the international experience. King & Cooke have had their moment at Cardiff, it's time the spot was automatically granted to Lambert. I said before the meeting that 5 points apiecewould represent a good return for those brits against that caliber of opposition. Don't think we can be disappointed with Lamberts return. Either way second is a great result. Poland had clearly the strongest line up, Sweden slightly stronger than the other sides (weaker number 1 but certainly more strength in depth), gb side at least good as aussie once Fricke ruled out (tai>Doyle, holder>cook, king=masters, lambert>Josh g) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Watched a reply last night and I thought Doyle was hard on Pawlicki but Pawlicki I think went down on his own accord to get a reply - which is what happened. Â Again, by looking at the meeting a second time, Lambert, IMO, actually did very well. He wasnt too much off the pace, and who knows what confidence factor he will get by doing well in a meeting such as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Personally think Pawlicki knew he was destined to go down and was trying to engineer a soft landing in limited space. If he had tried to stay on he would have brought down the rider in front of him with more serious consequences so I think he did a good job and the refs decision was correct. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Watched a reply last night and I thought Doyle was hard on Pawlicki but Pawlicki I think went down on his own accord to get a reply - which is what happened. Â Again, by looking at the meeting a second time, Lambert, IMO, actually did very well. He wasnt too much off the pace, and who knows what confidence factor he will get by doing well in a meeting such as that. Â Personally think Pawlicki knew he was destined to go down and was trying to engineer a soft landing in limited space. If he had tried to stay on he would have brought down the rider in front of him with more serious consequences so I think he did a good job and the refs decision was correct. Â Agree with both of these, there was contact between Doyle and Pawlicki going into bend three so the referee obviously excluded Doyle on that, could Pawlicki have stayed up only he will really know but if I was the ref I would've excluded Pawlicki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Pawlicki was hit from behind and the replay of the incident shows that Pawlicki had nowhere to put his left leg to stabilse himself. don`t think any rider would bail out intentionally when in such close quarters of other riders and at such high speed. Doyle was desperate and on a mission similar to ones he`s done before. On what I saw there didn`t seem to be much protestations from the Ozzies in the pits so theres a clue there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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