steve roberts Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Nooooo.....it's great. In fact we need more threads like this.......hmmmmmm Obviously some people have nothing better to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macinter Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 The really important thing is that Tai gets some much needed publicity for our sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 The really important thing is that Tai gets some much needed publicity for our sport. ...and for Tai W to help safeguard the lives of kangaroos when they try to cross some of Australia's busier roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 But if you get a tattoo of the Norwegian flag on your arm, it sounds like there could be hope Would then ride for Poland then. HOLTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Obviously some people have nothing better to do! That's why we need to give them something to do. By keeping the mentally-challenged Tai bashers on here we know they are safe, and that they aren't out doing dangerous things like driving vehicles, operating heavy machinery, or claiming to be a pre-war speedway journalist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) If a person's heart and basic support is for another country how can they have an alternative allegiance to another just for their convenience? How many times do people need to be told? He is not British for his own convenience. He is British because he was born here to British parents. That's it. British. Not sure how it is convenient to him. He doesn't ride in our league. Greg Hancock was also acting in a similar manner when the USA anthem was played. He chooses to live in Sweden. Is he Swedish? No. He is American. And nobody questions it. Tai is not, in any way, Australian. If he was he wouldn't need a visa to go there. Edited November 21, 2015 by grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 How many times do people need to be told? He is not British for his own convenience. He is British because he was born here to British parents. That's it. British. Not sure how it is convenient to him. He doesn't ride in our league. Greg Hancock was also acting in a similar manner when the USA anthem was played. He chooses to live in Sweden. Is he Swedish? No. He is American. And nobody questions it. Tai is not, in any way, Australian. If he was he wouldn't need a visa to go there. It is convenient for TW to be British because it means he has no problems in regard to competing in other EU countries. Freedom of labour movement etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 It is convenient for TW to be British because it means he has no problems in regard to competing in other EU countries. Freedom of labour movement etc. He'd still be entitled to that anyway, even if he had dual nationality. It is based on your passport, not which speedway team you ride for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) tilayed I enjoy singing along to it.. or la'ing along to it more appropriately as I don 't know all the words. And again, what are you talking about? I CANNOT make a nationality change. I CANNOT just decide I'm Portuguese, it doesn't work like that. Of all the inane comments on here, THIS one and ones like it are far worse. If you don't like a thread, don't read it, its very simple. Why oh why anybody wastes their time to post on something they have zero interest in I will never ever understand. Perhaps I'm missing out on something.. I might go and find a ballroom dancing forum and post to close a thread on there as I have no interest in it. You could easily apply for Portuguese nationality though residency, it happens in a lot of sports,mainly rugby. Talking of rugby I've been reading about Martin Johnson's career,similar to Tai he spent some of his teenage years in nearby New Zealand and even represented the All Blacks at U21 level..Strange then that when New Zealand came to Twickenham Johnson didn't join in with the Haka to show his affinity to the country.Either you are English / British or Australian, New Zealander etc ,make your choice ,don't float somewhere in-between.I think if Tai wasn't a 2 time World Champion he would not be cut so much slack. If there wasn't a problem Phil Rising wouldn't have pointed out that Woffindens questionable ' antics ' .had been pointed out to his team. Edited November 21, 2015 by New Science 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) How many times do people need to be told? He is not British for his own convenience. He is British because he was born here to British parents. That's it. British. Not sure how it is convenient to him. He doesn't ride in our league. Greg Hancock was also acting in a similar manner when the USA anthem was played. He chooses to live in Sweden. Is he Swedish? No. He is American. And nobody questions it. Tai is not, in any way, Australian. If he was he wouldn't need a visa to go there. You are never going to win this...... I agree PiratesPiratesPirates. Tai Woffinden "in action" when the British national anthem was played at the Melbourne GP was virtually unforgivable. Edited November 22, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I agree PiratesPiratesPirates. Tai Woffinden "in action" when the British national anthem was played at the Melbourne GP was virtually unforgivable. Virtually unforgivable?Yet you were complaining on the other thread about people giving jerran Hart grief?!? I guess you're right, failing to sing the national anthem is a lot worse than delivering a 4 on 1 beating to a squaddie!?! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Virtually unforgivable? Yet you were complaining on the other thread about people giving jerran Hart grief?!? I guess you're right, failing to sing the national anthem is a lot worse than delivering a 4 on 1 beating to a squaddie!?! Jerran Hart has been LEGALLY punished for his crime which took place outside international attention. So far I don't think Tai Woffinden has had his :bum smacked" over the anthem event that was possibly seen worldwide. By the way, you must be among the most prominent of that small but elite group who are dedicated followers of my Posts? What is the fascination with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Jerran Hart has been LEGALLY punished for his crime which took place outside international attention. So far I don't think Tai Woffinden has had his :bum smacked" over the anthem event that was possibly seen worldwide. By the way, you must be among the most prominent of that small but elite group who are dedicated followers of my Posts? What is the fascination with them? Failing to observe the national anthem isn't a crime that needs punishing, it isn't a crime of any kind. It is simply a personal choice. Beating up a squaddie is a crime, and a disgusting one at that, so punished or not, jerran hart is still low life scum not fit to breathe the same air as the rest if us 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Beating up a squaddie is a crime, and a disgusting one at that, so punished or not, jerran hart is still low life scum not fit to breathe the same air as the rest if us Here, here. Let's hope he remains 'inside' for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Here, here. Let's hope he remains 'inside' for a long time. I've only just read the story regarding Jerran Hart's part in 'beating up a squaddie'. The story disgusted me and I hope that he is fully ashamed of himself! I would use stronger language but this is a public domain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 He's British in the eyes of the law. If he could choose, he'd doubtless choose Australia. As it is Britain has been kind to him in career terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 You could easily apply for Portuguese nationality though residency, it happens in a lot of sports,mainly rugby. Talking of rugby I've been reading about Martin Johnson's career,similar to Tai he spent some of his teenage years in nearby New Zealand and even represented the All Blacks at U21 level..Strange then that when New Zealand came to Twickenham Johnson didn't join in with the Haka to show his affinity to the country.Either you are English / British or Australian, New Zealander etc ,make your choice ,don't float somewhere in-between.I think if Tai wasn't a 2 time World Champion he would not be cut so much slack. If there wasn't a problem Phil Rising wouldn't have pointed out that Woffindens questionable ' antics ' .had been pointed out to his team. 'some of his teenage years'. So not similar to Tai at all. Neither is your feeble attempt at a comparison with New Zealand coming to Twickenham. Tai sang along to a National Anthem being played in Australia, showing respect to the country he was in and their anthem. I've sung the Portuguese anthem.. I've sung the Canadian national anthem at an event in Canada and even the US national anthem. If you know a song and thousands of people around you are singing it, join in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 'some of his teenage years'. So not similar to Tai at all. Neither is your feeble attempt at a comparison with New Zealand coming to Twickenham. Tai sang along to a National Anthem being played in Australia, showing respect to the country he was in and their anthem. I've sung the Portuguese anthem.. I've sung the Canadian national anthem at an event in Canada and even the US national anthem. If you know a song and thousands of people around you are singing it, join in. Sorry "Tai sang along to a national anthem being played in Australia,showing respect for the country he was in" What an absurd statement ; In that case all the riders should have been singing as technically they were all in Australia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Sorry "Tai sang along to a national anthem being played in Australia,showing respect for the country he was in" What an absurd statement ; In that case all the riders should have been singing as technically they were all in Australia Not likely if they don't know the words. You see, that's how it works with songs. If you know it and the words you sing along. If you don't, you don't. It's a personal choice you see. There are no rules that say you must do this, you must do that. We don't live in a dictatorship where people have to behave as you see fit for them to do so. He sung a song he will have learned as a child growing up and sung many times in his youth, likely brings back great memories for him. Good on him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Not likely if they don't know the words. You see, that's how it works with songs. If you know it and the words you sing along. If you don't, you don't. It's a personal choice you see. There are no rules that say you must do this, you must do that. We don't live in a dictatorship where people have to behave as you see fit for them to do so. He sung a song he will have learned as a child growing up and sung many times in his youth, likely brings back great memories for him. Good on him! I take it he doesn't know the words to the British anthem then as he doesn't sing it ? Edited November 26, 2015 by New Science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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