speedibee Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 There are though exceptions to all rules.Top sports people for instance?If Australia need an Olympic champ or world champ....... Or even an overweight over the hill Glass jawed boxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Or even an overweight over the hill Glass jawed boxer I remember him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 I remember him Yes - the mighty Joe Bugner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Yes - the mighty Joe Bugner. Â Yes - the mighty Joe Bugner. Not so Mighty as I recall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Edit Edited November 14, 2015 by The Voice Of Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 My own personal opinion is that national anthems are a waste of time and I don't see what purpose they serve at sporting events. Tai is British, it says so on his race jacket. That's all that matters to me. You can debate the technicalities of his qualifications all you like. Looking forward to see him trying to become BRITAIN's first three time world champion next year and leading the World Cup campaign. And I would also like to see him and a GB team in the Pairs events as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Back in the day, New Zealanders Briggs and Mauger mysteriously changed nationality and regularly rode for Great Britain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 My own personal opinion is that national anthems are a waste of time and I don't see what purpose they serve at sporting events. Tai is British, it says so on his race jacket. That's all that matters to me. You can debate the technicalities of his qualifications all you like. Looking forward to see him trying to become BRITAIN's first three time world champion next year and leading the World Cup campaign. And I would also like to see him and a GB team in the Pairs events as well. ...and I like rhubarb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Back in the day, New Zealanders Briggs and Mauger mysteriously changed nationality and regularly rode for Great Britain! I think the general public is more nationalistic these days, especially with what is going on in the world. In my opinion, I think we should only have an England team. Only recently the Scots voted to break away. I think many feel we are/have losing/lost our national identity and perhaps Tai's lack of respect whilst the national anthem is playing is to some, another example of people not giving a damn about our country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Back in the day, New Zealanders Briggs and Mauger mysteriously changed nationality and regularly rode for Great Britain! NOTHING mysterious about it ... as far as the FIM were concerned they were British as New Zealand had no direct affiliation with the sport's governing body and were represented by the ACU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Back in the day, New Zealanders Briggs and Mauger mysteriously changed nationality and regularly rode for Great Britain! They didn't change nationality. They were always New Zelanders. Â However New Zealand had no direct representation at FIM level and came under the jurisdiction of the British ACU for international racing. Hence their only method of entry to the World Team Cup was via the ACU's team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 NOTHING mysterious about it ... as far as the FIM were concerned they were British as New Zealand had no direct affiliation with the sport's governing body and were represented by the ACU. Â Interestingly, although the Aussies gained their own ACU circa 1975, New Zealand didn't until 1984. Â It could be argued that Great Britain, represented by five Kiwis, won the 1979 World Team Cup. Â All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 TRY telling Barry and Ivan that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I think the general public is more nationalistic these days, especially with what is going on in the world. In my opinion, I think we should only have an England team. Only recently the Scots voted to break away. I think many feel we are/have losing/lost our national identity and perhaps Tai's lack of respect whilst the national anthem is playing is to some, another example of people not giving a damn about our country. I think you'll find Scotland did NOT vote to break away. Anyway if Tai says he is British he is British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) I think you'll find Scotland did NOT vote to break away. Anyway if Tai says he is British he is British. 44.7% did! But Tai might not be saying he is British.......only his passport says he is British. Edited November 14, 2015 by Ray Stadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I think the general public is more nationalistic these days, especially with what is going on in the world. In my opinion, I think we should only have an England team. Only recently the Scots voted to break away. I think many feel we are/have losing/lost our national identity and perhaps Tai's lack of respect whilst the national anthem is playing is to some, another example of people not giving a damn about our country. Â The Scots did not vote to break away. 55.3% to stay. Â It is the BSPA. Not the ESPA. If a Welsh, English, Scottish or Northern Ireland rider reaches the level Woffinden has reached they belong in a British team. As far as I am concerned the 1,2,3 riders on a rostrum should have hats off, water bottles down and respect the winner's anthem. Common courtesy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 . As far as I am concerned the 1,2,3 riders on a rostrum should have hats off, water bottles down and respect the winner's anthem. Common courtesy. I do agree.It shouldn't be necessary,but I guess BSI should state clearly when the riders sign their contracts that this must be the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 44.7% did! But Tai might not be saying he is British.......only his passport says he is British. Actually less than 38% of the eligible electorate voted for independence. I never thought I'd see being born in a country (the prime qualification for international sport) being described as a technicality. To be honest, I don't really think accidents of birth should really be the determining factor. You should really represent where you spent your formative years and learnt your sport. Â If Tai Woffinden is not an Australian citizen then he's not Australian full stop, but the question comes when a competitor takes a passport of convenience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Actually less than 38% of the eligible electorate voted for independence. Â To be honest, I don't really think accidents of birth should really be the determining factor. You should really represent where you spent your formative years and learnt your sport. Â If Tai Woffinden is not an Australian citizen then he's not Australian full stop, but the question comes when a competitor takes a passport of convenience. Maybe, but 44.7% of those that went to vote, said yes. And who is to say that those that didn't vote, if they had to, would have tipped the balance to a 'yes'. Whichever way you argue the figures, a lot of Scots wanted to and probably still do want to, break from the UK. And in my opinion, fair enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Actually less than 38% of the eligible electorate voted for independence. Â To be honest, I don't really think accidents of birth should really be the determining factor. You should really represent where you spent your formative years and learnt your sport. Â If Tai Woffinden is not an Australian citizen then he's not Australian full stop, but the question comes when a competitor takes a passport of convenience. Perhaps you think that - but crucially - that is not the way it is. Â You are what you are - and Tai is British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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