JessicaJones Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 Has anyone at the Swindon speedway club approached Dr Laurie Marsh about a new stadium? He is a philanthropist who wanted to redevelop Swindon town centre but his plans were turned down by the council last September. He clearly wants to do something good for Swindon and, as speedway is important to the town, he may be interested in helping out with a new stadium for the club. It’s pretty clear by now that Clarke Osborne and his company have little interest in improving the stadium for the town and are unlikely to ever see their plans for it through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Not sure how popular this petition is going to be on here but we are on the same side. We want the speedway to continue and don’t think Gaming International are going to redevelop the stadium. The council should be working with GI to ensure that the stadium is financially viable - which it currently isn’t. The speedway is being subsidised by the greyhound racing but the greyhound racing is loss making and it looks as though GI will not fulfil its promise to redevelop the stadium, which is good news if it ends the greyhound racing but bad news for the speedway. The council could be making a deal with the owners to let them build on the land nearby in exchange for a lump sum for the stadium. With GI’s history, it’s unlikely that they will ever live up to their part of the bargain. Please sign this petition to ask the council to ensure the speedway continues but without the cruelty of the greyhound racing and that a more financially viable use for the stadium is found. http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?id=41&fbclid=IwAR0rDHAMfiyYvesTN-grF1gtjcMELTFQOZ-2BUXgvARVba47bOJY89jNWNU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JessicaJones said: Not sure how popular this petition is going to be on here but we are on the same side. We want the speedway to continue and don’t think Gaming International are going to redevelop the stadium. The council should be working with GI to ensure that the stadium is financially viable - which it currently isn’t. The speedway is being subsidised by the greyhound racing but the greyhound racing is loss making and it looks as though GI will not fulfil its promise to redevelop the stadium, which is good news if it ends the greyhound racing but bad news for the speedway. The council could be making a deal with the owners to let them build on the land nearby in exchange for a lump sum for the stadium. With GI’s history, it’s unlikely that they will ever live up to their part of the bargain. Please sign this petition to ask the council to ensure the speedway continues but without the cruelty of the greyhound racing and that a more financially viable use for the stadium is found. http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?id=41&fbclid=IwAR0rDHAMfiyYvesTN-grF1gtjcMELTFQOZ-2BUXgvARVba47bOJY89jNWNU I take it that you are anti greyhound racing, ask the GBGB to remove the green form whereby Trainers/Owners can put a healthy Greyhound to sleep on economic grounds, which is totally unacceptable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Yes, we have and are. But even then, I wouldn’t support it as a form of entertainment. I don’t believe in using animals for entertainment. Taking away the green form won’t solve all the cruelty involved with greyhound racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JessicaJones said: Not sure how popular this petition is going to be on here but we are on the same side. We want the speedway to continue and don’t think Gaming International are going to redevelop the stadium. The council should be working with GI to ensure that the stadium is financially viable - which it currently isn’t. The speedway is being subsidised by the greyhound racing but the greyhound racing is loss making and it looks as though GI will not fulfil its promise to redevelop the stadium, which is good news if it ends the greyhound racing but bad news for the speedway. The council could be making a deal with the owners to let them build on the land nearby in exchange for a lump sum for the stadium. With GI’s history, it’s unlikely that they will ever live up to their part of the bargain. Please sign this petition to ask the council to ensure the speedway continues but without the cruelty of the greyhound racing and that a more financially viable use for the stadium is found. http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?id=41&fbclid=IwAR0rDHAMfiyYvesTN-grF1gtjcMELTFQOZ-2BUXgvARVba47bOJY89jNWNU How would you make the stadium financially viable without Greyhounds ? the bottom line even if you think Greyhound racing is cruel and wrong without it Speedway won't be able to run and at a lot of tracks . Quite clearly you must a viable business plan on how Speedway tracks stay open without Greyhounds . Edited March 12, 2020 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Yes - plenty of ideas! But did you read my post properly? The track isn’t financially viable even with the greyhound racing. Have you seen Gaming International’s last set of accounts? The greyhound racing is loss making and the company has a paragraph in there about potentially not even being able to fund the stadium redevelopment. Remind you of what happened with other tracks that Gaming International has owned? It’s in the speedway’s interest to get the council to ensure that the company puts something in place that is going to make a profit. Why would you want the speedway track to be propped up by an industry that results in dogs being injured and killed each year anyway? I can’t understand why any speedway team would want to be associated with it and why they’re not all actively working to get a more ethical and financially viable business in place at tracks to support them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 26 minutes ago, JessicaJones said: Yes - plenty of ideas! But did you read my post properly? The track isn’t financially viable even with the greyhound racing. Have you seen Gaming International’s last set of accounts? The greyhound racing is loss making and the company has a paragraph in there about potentially not even being able to fund the stadium redevelopment. Remind you of what happened with other tracks that Gaming International has owned? It’s in the speedway’s interest to get the council to ensure that the company puts something in place that is going to make a profit. Why would you want the speedway track to be propped up by an industry that results in dogs being injured and killed each year anyway? I can’t understand why any speedway team would want to be associated with it and why they’re not all actively working to get a more ethical and financially viable business in place at tracks to support them. I like Greyhound racing and want to carry on just as much as speedway .. I understand some trainers are cruel to Greyhounds but we have bad eggs in all areas of life . Are you against people breeding Animals to Eat as well as race ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Why do you like greyhound racing? I love seeing dogs run but when they choose to, not when they are forced to. They are also made to run in all weathers - in the very cold and in heatwaves when other dog owners are advised not to walk their dogs. It seems very cruel. There are too many ‘bad eggs’ in the industry. I have seen the most horrific cruelty and it’s systemic, not just one off individual cases. If anyone loves dogs, they would not support greyhound racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 26 minutes ago, JessicaJones said: Yes. What I find funny are ironic about your Petition is when you used this choice of Words about Greyhound racing … outdated industry that has no place in a modern town It does not make economic sense to support investment into an activity which is declining so dramatically in popularity as a spectator sport. . You might be correct about that but. quite clearly you could used those words to talk about speedway . Surely you must think Speedway should be closed down if believe in the above words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 No. Not sure why you have interpreted it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, JessicaJones said: Why do you like greyhound racing? I love seeing dogs run but when they choose to, not when they are forced to. They are also made to run in all weathers - in the very cold and in heatwaves when other dog owners are advised not to walk their dogs. It seems very cruel. There are too many ‘bad eggs’ in the industry. I have seen the most horrific cruelty and it’s systemic, not just one off individual cases. If anyone loves dogs, they would not support greyhound racing. When was the last time owners were told not to walk there dogs ..have you got the links with the dates etc was there a time limit etc on how long they were allowed out .. thanks in advance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JessicaJones said: No. Not sure why you have interpreted it that way. Pretty easy . you give reasons why Greyhounds should not run . they are clearly set out in your petition in the points I have highlighted .. So as I said thou reasons would apply to speedway if you knew anything about the sport . So unless you don't believe in your own words or they are untrue you must think speedway should be closed . Edited March 12, 2020 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Yes, last summer. Have a google. It’s all there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 No, we have been very clear that we support the speedway. You are (deliberately?) misinterpreting the petition wording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, JessicaJones said: No, we have been very clear that we support the speedway. You are (deliberately?) misinterpreting the petition wording. But how can you .. these are your own words .. how can I be misinterpreting them ? are quote them again 15 minutes ago, orion said: What I find funny are ironic about your Petition is when you used this choice of Words about Greyhound racing … outdated industry that has no place in a modern town It does not make economic sense to support investment into an activity which is declining so dramatically in popularity as a spectator sport. . I think ever most Speedway fans would tell you that speedway is a qutdated industry that makes no economic sense and is declining dramatically .. but somehow you think it should kept open when greyhounds should be shut . Stick to greyhounds being cruel for the reason for it to be closed . its quite clear you zero idea about speedway and the state of the sport and just trying to get speedway fans to support you out in your crusade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 If speedway fans think it’s an outdated industry that makes no economic sense, that’s their view! I’ve never said that’s mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, JessicaJones said: Yes, last summer. Have a google. It’s all there. I have I can't see anything about dogs not being allowed to be race for 30 seconds .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 I am sorry that you are not very good at googling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weasel Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, JessicaJones said: Why do you like greyhound racing? I love seeing dogs run but when they choose to, not when they are forced to. They are also made to run in all weathers - in the very cold and in heatwaves when other dog owners are advised not to walk their dogs. It seems very cruel. There are too many ‘bad eggs’ in the industry. I have seen the most horrific cruelty and it’s systemic, not just one off individual cases. If anyone loves dogs, they would not support greyhound racing. Whilst I don't want to get into an argument about the sport of Greyhound Racing, that comment just isn't true, last summer during the warmest of weather a number of meetings were cancelled in the South of the country for welfare reasons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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