Swindon Stadium

[A ORLOV]

none of that article mentions swindon, which was where i specifically referred to? Can you nprovide me with a link that says Swindon has a housing crisis?

 

I guess also it depends on your definition of "crisis", which seems to be extensively used, but is a very subjective term. That article refers to increasing unaffordabiliy of houses to buy. As a comparison, Auckland house prices are now approximately 11 times the average full time Auckland salary. Yet we don't describe it as a crisis, though from what I've seen Britains houses are not at that level?

The article says evidence of the crisis is that there are approximately 2000 Brits without a roof over their head. While clearly not desirable, that's a tiny fraction of the population, and I would think comparable to most western countries?

Not sure if there is what you would call a housing crisis in Swindon, all I can state is that the Council have and are ruining the town by building thousands of houses. At certain times of the day the traffic is at a standstill and the infrastructure of the town cannot cope with the current population, let alone the projected increases. The reason housing prices are not going through the roof is that if they did many would not be able to afford them.

[Gemini]

The Magic Roundabout must be fun at rush hour.

[Odds On]

^{does any real speedway fan really believe that a new stadium will be built?...because when you look at the history of Reading and Milton Keynes and the promises made for new stadiums by the same people then for me it will not happen.}

 

^{Sorry to pizz on anybodies bonfire and all that!}

Edited November 10, 2015 by Odds On

[Guest]

^{does any real speedway fan really believe that a new stadium will be built?...because when you look at the history of Reading and Milton Keynes and the promises made for new stadiums by the same people then for me it will not happen.}

 

^{Sorry to pizz on anybodies bonfire and all that!}

"Wee wee wee all the way home" as an old quotation goes!

[steve roberts]

Call me a cynic but am I right to say that Clark Osborne has something to do with Blunsden Stadium? I well remember when he placed Cowley in great jeopardy back in 1975 under the banner of Bristol Stadiums Ltd (?) when the site was about to be sold for redevelopment until saved thru' the great efforts of local fans (my uncle was one).

[SCB]

What do you mean "get real?" I live in NZ it was a genuine question. IT's also quite rare for a housing crisis to impact a whole country, generally it impacts specific areas only, hence the question with regards to Swindon.

certainly I've seen quite educated/knowledgeable folk, such as SCB and Sir HA, dispute that there is shortage of housing in the UK, and they have pointed out that there are actually many vacant buildings in parts of the country.

The UKs housing crisis is more as described earlier, Londons moves to Reading as it's cheaper and they force up the price, so people from Reading move to Swindon as it's cheaper and force up prices. They in turn move to Newport and force up prices, and those people move up into the Welsh valleys. It's a ripple effect. I'm not gong to say there's a lack of houses and more houses won't fix the issue but it's not the main issue. It's banks lending silly amounts, mainly to BTL investors that has caused our recent issues.

 

But a "housing crisis" means most people who do no look into it will get upset at the idea of homes being left empty.

 

"Get Real" - then read this. And there's a lot more available if you care to Google for it.

http://england.shelter.org.uk/campaigns/why_we_campaign/the_housing_crisis

Id pay very little attention to Shelter. A lot of their funding comes from Nationwide building society. One of the biggest BTL mortgage providers in the UK. They're hardly going to want homes to be made more affordable, it'll mean less profit for them!!

[van wolfswinkel]

Not sure if there is what you would call a housing crisis in Swindon, all I can state is that the Council have and are ruining the town by building thousands of houses. At certain times of the day the traffic is at a standstill and the infrastructure of the town cannot cope with the current population, let alone the projected increases. The reason housing prices are not going through the roof is that if they did many would not be able to afford them.

Tried getting onto the A419 today by the stadium...a sodding total standstill.

 

Swindon, after Warrington, is supposed to have the best income/house price ratio

The UKs housing crisis is more as described earlier, Londons moves to Reading as it's cheaper and they force up the price, so people from Reading move to Swindon as it's cheaper and force up prices. They in turn move to Newport and force up prices, and those people move up into the Welsh valleys. It's a ripple effect. I'm not gong to say there's a lack of houses and more houses won't fix the issue but it's not the main issue. It's banks lending silly amounts, mainly to BTL investors that has caused our recent issues.

 

But a "housing crisis" means most people who do no look into it will get upset at the idea of homes being left empty.

Id pay very little attention to Shelter. A lot of their funding comes from Nationwide building society. One of the biggest BTL mortgage providers in the UK. They're hardly going to want homes to be made more affordable, it'll mean less profit for them!!

Don't know anyone from Swindon who has moved to Newport, although know a few peeps who have moved to Chepstow, Caldicot, Monmouth, Wye Valley, Swansea, and Pembrokeshire. My daughter loved being at Uni in Swansea.

Edited November 10, 2015 by haydon hat

[Fromafar]

Judging by the Mildenhall situation,these new house owners will soon get rid of the motor sport from the Stadium(if it every materialises )

[greyhoundp]

Call me a cynic but am I right to say that Clark Osborne has something to do with Blunsden Stadium? I well remember when he placed Cowley in great jeopardy back in 1975 under the banner of Bristol Stadiums Ltd (?) when the site was about to be sold for redevelopment until saved thru' the great efforts of local fans (my uncle was one).

 

Yes this is the same guy, and the same company under a different guise these days, and the history of Bristol, Milton Keynes, Reading does not bode well for Swindon, I don't understand why PP has not already been granted, they have had long enough to sort it out by now, or is it that Stadia UK have become expert at engineering delays, just so that the houses are built first and there is NO need then to provide a Stadium so they can then demolish a ramshackle Stadium that could well be a Health & Safety risk by that time, and Clark Osborne, Bill Glass and there merry band of asset strippers can have an increased pension pot by then.

[YerRopes]

Does Swindon really have a housing crisis?

 

The poorest in this country will suffer further shortly, thanks to the public schoolboy, land owning, never worked knobs currently in power..

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/10/housing-target-david-cameron-dismantling-welfare-state

[Tsunami]

 

The poorest in this country will suffer further shortly, thanks to the public schoolboy, land owning, never worked knobs currently in power..

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/10/housing-target-david-cameron-dismantling-welfare-state

As opposed to bankruptcy for all with the other lot. Actually your description also goes for them as well, except Captain Catweasal that is, who also happens to be a millionaire, i am led to believe.

Edited November 10, 2015 by Tsunami

[YerRopes]

As opposed to bankruptcy for all with the other lot. Actually your description also goes for them as well, except Captain Catweasal that is who also happens to be a millionaire, i am led to believe.

 

When I posted this, I wondered if you'd be the first to respond...

 

I don't like any of them...

[hyderd]

As opposed to bankruptcy for all with the other lot. Actually your description also goes for them as well, except Captain Catweasal that is who also happens to be a millionaire, i am led to believe.

Brought about by having to save the Banks who cheated their way to nearly bankrupting this country.

[The White Knight]

 

The poorest in this country will suffer further shortly, thanks to the public schoolboy, land owning, never worked knobs currently in power..

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/10/housing-target-david-cameron-dismantling-welfare-state

OI !!!

 

I worked all of my life until I retired at 61. Not all Public Schoolboys lead 'the life of Riley'.

[Tsunami]

Brought about by having to save the Banks who cheated their way to nearly bankrupting this country.

Ignoring, of course, the part that the Labour government did to provide that situation, when the finances were woefully weak and unable to ride the difficulties. Never a good idea to try and rewrite the history to cover your erse.

 

When I posted this, I wondered if you'd be the first to respond...

 

I don't like any of them...

I dispute your assessment of the current situation, but just think it could have affected everyone and the country, if Labour had bankrupted the nation and we were well on the way to do so.

[Humphrey Appleby]

What do you mean "get real?" I live in NZ it was a genuine question. IT's also quite rare for a housing crisis to impact a whole country, generally it impacts specific areas only, hence the question with regards to Swindon.

certainly I've seen quite educated/knowledgeable folk, such as SCB and Sir HA, dispute that there is shortage of housing in the UK, and they have pointed out that there are actually many vacant buildings in parts of the country.

 

The problem is that Swindon is a growing 'new' town because it's along the M4 corridor, generally has good employment prospects and is semi-affordable by the standards of the South(-East) of England (along Swindon is technically in the South-West.

 

There's also the fact that ramshackle old sports stadiums are relatively cheaper and more desirable to redevelop than other sites, plus in Toryshire they generally don't want/care about speedway as a general rule.

 

In parts of the country though, there are indeed a huge number of empty and derelict houses. Unfortunately there's also poor employment prospects as well.

 

 

[Guest]

 

What do you mean "get real?" I live in NZ it was a genuine question. IT's also quite rare for a housing crisis to impact a whole country, generally it impacts specific areas only, hence the question with regards to Swindon.

certainly I've seen quite educated/knowledgeable folk, such as SCB and Sir HA, dispute that there is shortage of housing in the UK, and they have pointed out that there are actually many vacant buildings in parts of the country.

 

The problem is that Swindon is a growing 'new' town because it's along the M4 corridor, generally has good employment prospects and is semi-affordable by the standards of the South(-East) of England (along Swindon is technically in the South-West.

 

There's also the fact that ramshackle old sports stadiums are relatively cheaper and more desirable to redevelop than other sites, plus in Toryshire they generally don't want/care about speedway as a general rule.

 

In parts of the country though, there are indeed a huge number of empty and derelict houses. Unfortunately there's also poor employment prospects as well.

 

 

What part of the above is your actual response Humphrey?

[SCB]

Don't know anyone from Swindon who has moved to Newport, although know a few peeps who have moved to Chepstow, Caldicot, Monmouth, Wye Valley, Swansea, and Pembrokeshire. My daughter loved being at Uni in Swansea.

I was illustrating a point rather than being literal.

 

And God only knows why anyone would want to live in Chepstow or Caldicot. Pembrokeshores not cheap either as it where retired Londoners move to. Again, not sure why, miles from anywhere. Yes it nice in the summer but just visit for a holiday!

[Gemini]

What part of the above is your actual response Humphrey?

Even I can work that out but as you seem to like being awkward....... This bit.... The problem is that Swindon is a growing 'new' town because it's along the M4 corridor, generally has good employment prospects and is semi-affordable by the standards of the South(-East) of England (along Swindon is technically in the South-West.

There's also the fact that ramshackle old sports stadiums are relatively cheaper and more desirable to redevelop than other sites, plus in Toryshire they generally don't want/care about speedway as a general rule.

In parts of the country though, there are indeed a huge number of empty and derelict houses. Unfortunately there's also poor employment prospects as well.

Edited November 11, 2015 by Gemini

[steve roberts]

I find it very disturbing and a sad reflection on speedway in the 21st Century but with the loss of Reading and Oxford (whether the sport returns to Cowley remains a huge question mark?) and now possibly Swindon will mean that the Thames Valley will no longer have a representation. Considering that London hasn't had a team in years and I understand that Coventry is also under threat (I meet people form all parts of the country in my employment within the museum industry) it's certainly a worrying trend.