Lord Skid Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 I may be wrong, but when riders were forced into using the new quieter silencers, you know the ones where someone or some organisation had a nice little earner out of it, wasn't this to ensure that noise levels were legal for health and safety, and so doing away with noise problems with planners, councils etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Maybe the local councillors can visit the NSS..? The back straight stand certainly does its job as a noise barrier... The houses that back on to the place must be no more than 75 yards from the actual track yet you can walk behind the stand during a meeting and not hear either the racing nor the sound system.. Unfortunately 'noise pollution' laws don't recognise 'who was there first', it is simply measured as being either noise pollution or it isn't when investigated.... However, I am sure if there was a will, the decibel levels hitting the estate could be kept well under control.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 18 hours ago, Lord Skid said: I may be wrong, but when riders were forced into using the new quieter silencers, you know the ones where someone or some organisation had a nice little earner out of it, wasn't this to ensure that noise levels were legal for health and safety, and so doing away with noise problems with planners, councils etc. Think you are wrong and actually the one we have now create more decibels than the ones before... Dont understand the bit about someone getting money out of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 21 hours ago, orion said: 22 press release saying that the stadium getting the thumbs up ..and still fans say great news .. I just cant believe naïve gullible these people are ..what does Osbourne Clark have to do ? What Osbourne & other developers should do ................ be accountable & rebuild or re-site new stadia before any houses are built as per the planning procedure. They should never have been allowed to build houses before the speedway & stock cars were sorted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, IronScorpion said: What Osbourne & other developers should do ................ be accountable & rebuild or re-site new stadia before any houses are built as per the planning procedure. They should never have been allowed to build houses before the speedway & stock cars were sorted. Of course that is what have should happened .. sadly back handers are pass around and we always end up in the wrong place .. just are these are these stupid anti greyhound people .. They just don't understand that without Greyhounds the stadium won't fund itself and also Greyhounds are bred for racing no Racing no Greyhounds in the first place . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, orion said: Of course that is what have should happened .. sadly back handers are pass around and we always end up in the wrong place .. just are these are these stupid anti greyhound people .. They just don't understand that without Greyhounds the stadium won't fund itself and also Greyhounds are bred for racing no Racing no Greyhounds in the first place . Interesting that a recent edition of the "Great British Railway Journeys" the presenter Michael Portillo paid a visit to Brough Park (Newcastle) to view the Greyhound Racing. Edited January 11, 2020 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Surely it is better that fewer animals are bred than to keep breeding animals that are cruelty treated ?This isn’t specific to greyhounds, but any animal. It is like saying if you stop testing products on animals it is cruel because less beagles or monkeys will be bred . It was also the fox hunt argument that if hunts are banned then the dogs won’t be needed.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, iris123 said: Surely it is better that fewer animals are bred than to keep breeding animals that are cruelty treated ?This isn’t specific to greyhounds, but any animal. It is like saying if you stop testing products on animals it is cruel because less beagles or monkeys will be bred . It was also the fox hunt argument that if hunts are banned then the dogs won’t be needed.... I agree on that thou I don't think Greyhound racing is cruel to start with .Sure there bad stories about how they are treated and what happens to them after they stop racing but your going to have bad eggs in any group . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 The only reason that they would want to move the track and retain it onsite, would be to squeeze a few more houses on to the development, Osbourne and his henchmen have no interest in any kind of Sport, and once they have finished Swindon Stadium, note i said finished not finished with, they will move there grubby little fingers down Wimborne and Torquay way, heaven help both of them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted January 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, greyhoundp said: The only reason that they would want to move the track and retain it onsite, would be to squeeze a few more houses on to the development, Osbourne and his henchmen have no interest in any kind of Sport, and once they have finished Swindon Stadium, note i said finished not finished with, they will move there grubby little fingers down Wimborne and Torquay way, heaven help both of them.. We survived his 'aspirations' at Cowley during the winter of 1975/76 and was glad to see the back of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 14 hours ago, greyhoundp said: The only reason that they would want to move the track and retain it onsite, would be to squeeze a few more houses on to the development, Osbourne and his henchmen have no interest in any kind of Sport, and once they have finished Swindon Stadium, note i said finished not finished with, they will move there grubby little fingers down Wimborne and Torquay way, heaven help both of them.. By Wimborne I assume you mean Poole?! The difference with Poole being that Osborne doesn't 'own' Poole Stadium - they lease it from Poole Council, who have stated they wish to retain the site as a sporting/leisure facility, with just a relatively small corner of the car park and an adjacent site being used for flats. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 10:56 AM, Skidder1 said: By Wimborne I assume you mean Poole?! The difference with Poole being that Osborne doesn't 'own' Poole Stadium - they lease it from Poole Council, who have stated they wish to retain the site as a sporting/leisure facility, with just a relatively small corner of the car park and an adjacent site being used for flats. Yes i meant Poole, Im aware as to who owns Poole but never ever underestimate Clark Osbourne and his underling Bill Glass, Whilst they will milk Swindon Stadium for every last penny they can get out of it, Poole and Torquay will be reasonably safe, but when the time comes that they can get nothing more out of Swindon they will switch there attention further south.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, greyhoundp said: Yes i meant Poole, Im aware as to who owns Poole but never ever underestimate Clark Osbourne and his underling Bill Glass, Whilst they will milk Swindon Stadium for every last penny they can get out of it, Poole and Torquay will be reasonably safe, but when the time comes that they can get nothing more out of Swindon they will switch there attention further south.. Oh trust me I know all about Osborne and especially Bill Glass!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 4:37 PM, orion said: Of course that is what have should happened .. sadly back handers are pass around and we always end up in the wrong place .. just are these are these stupid anti greyhound people .. They just don't understand that without Greyhounds the stadium won't fund itself and also Greyhounds are bred for racing no Racing no Greyhounds in the first place . Really? Now I wonder what would be best ~ never being born or having to race? Greyhounds are not born that way they are trained by humans with money in mind as usual. No good and they are discarded or sent to China to breed yet more of them, or eaten. They are beautiful laid back dogs until trained differently. It's like saying all Border Collies are born to be working Sheep and live outdoors on a farm. No farms = no Border Collies. Perhaps you should take a look at the link below or look at CAGED Nationwide on Facebook. There are plenty of examples of how cruelly most of them are treated so would have been much better off never having been born. https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/09/dog-breeder-let-three-greyhounds-starve-death-stuffed-one-freezer-12030888/?fbclid=IwAR3uCBdXviz4CnWQz2aIkybsv02v0KX66_RShXm7MC2C5sSGHYf13YNnVo4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gemini said: Really? Now I wonder what would be best ~ never being born or having to race? Greyhounds are not born that way they are trained by humans with money in mind as usual. No good and they are discarded or sent to China to breed yet more of them, or eaten. They are beautiful laid back dogs until trained differently. It's like saying all Border Collies are born to be working Sheep and live outdoors on a farm. No farms = no Border Collies. Perhaps you should take a look at the link below or look at CAGED Nationwide on Facebook. There are plenty of examples of how cruelly most of them are treated so would have been much better off never having been born. https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/09/dog-breeder-let-three-greyhounds-starve-death-stuffed-one-freezer-12030888/?fbclid=IwAR3uCBdXviz4CnWQz2aIkybsv02v0KX66_RShXm7MC2C5sSGHYf13YNnVo4 The key is not all of them are treated badly a fact that is lost on you . anyone could pick bad examples in most things if they wanted to , we breed animals to eat so not sure what the big deal is about being breed to race what they love to do and the majority have a good life and are well looked after. Edited January 13, 2020 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 4:37 PM, orion said: and also Greyhounds are bred for racing no Racing no Greyhounds in the first place Are you suggesting the ancient Egyptians had a flutter on trap 6? Greyhounds weren't bred for racing, they are hunting dogs. If you want a slightly different perspective on the treatment of racing greyhounds, I would suggest the following: Spend about 30 seconds researching the subject. Find someone who owns a pet greyhound (ex racer or otherwise) and spend a few hours with the dog. A more gentle creature does not exist on God's Earth. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, False dawn said: Are you suggesting the ancient Egyptians had a flutter on trap 6? Greyhounds weren't bred for racing, they are hunting dogs. If you want a slightly different perspective on the treatment of racing greyhounds, I would suggest the following: Spend about 30 seconds researching the subject. Find someone who owns a pet greyhound (ex racer or otherwise) and spend a few hours with the dog. A more gentle creature does not exist on God's Earth. i know many trainers of Greyhounds so i don't need to research the treatment Greyhounds as i have seen it first hand . maybe if had you might have a better understanding of the subject yourself .the majority of Greyhounds are treated well during and after they has finish racing and enjoy a good life . I am suggesting that if was not for racing the dogs used at Swindon would not be bred in the first place Edited January 14, 2020 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 hours ago, orion said: The key is not all of them are treated badly a fact that is lost on you . anyone could pick bad examples in most things if they wanted to , we breed animals to eat so not sure what the big deal is about being breed to race what they love to do and the majority have a good life and are well looked after. It's not lost on me but I don't consider being stuck in kennels, when not racing, is a good life for a dog. It would be like a dog permanently waiting for a home all its life at the RSPCA. Being as you know many trainers I presume you can confirm their dog lives with them indoors at home, gets taken for a daily walk and are not kept in kennels until their next race? Yeah right. As to the dogs at Swindon not being bred in the first place that sounds like a damn good idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Gemini said: It's not lost on me but I don't consider being stuck in kennels, when not racing, is a good life for a dog. It would be like a dog permanently waiting for a home all its life at the RSPCA. Being as you know many trainers I presume you can confirm their dog lives with them indoors at home, gets taken for a daily walk and are not kept in kennels until their next race? Yeah right. As to the dogs at Swindon not being bred in the first place that sounds like a damn good idea. Not a good idea as the speedway club would have to close like many others across the uk as stadiums mainly stay open due to Greyhounds. I am amazed you even went to speedway on that understanding.. I expect a racing Greyhound gets a lot more exercise than a pet one ..As I always said before as humans we breed animals to kill and eat but get upset when they are bred to race and in the main have a great life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 I absolutely hate the idea of animals being killed so humans can eat their bodies, especially the way some of them are killed but there you go that's the human race for you. The majority of problems in the World are caused by them, but I suppose that's a different subject so we'll just have to agree to disagree on Greyhound Racing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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