Hornsey Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Not finalised, but the team is very similar to last year, but with much better reserves, which, along with AJ's injury, was our downfall last year. It seems to me, that even if we start with a squad, it will naturally evolve into a normal 1-7, as any weak rider will be dropped in favour of making it a stronger team. No bad thing to have some competition for team spaces early on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER180 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Its a hard one for all concerned as jon said at the forum polish tv have moved the goalposts and are showing meetings during the week the FIM has done the normal brown nosed the polish league and said they have 1st choice on the riders for these fixtures. mainly the polish riders but foreign riders aswell and as the uk has hardly any riders in the foreign leagues (not just Poland) its the same old same old we are the poorer relations.I feel jon and stuart are doing the right thing by trying to keep a solid consistant side as belle vue and Coventry have showed having the same team for 8-10 meetings back to back pay dividends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Poor Bjarne. Don't Poole have between 1-3 fixture clashes with Hans and we haven't dropped him, so agree that there is probably another reason as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Probably because Neil Vatcher's not there anymore!!? ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Would be surprised if it was only three clashes, the feel I got at last weeks fans forum that a change was on the cards and Bjarne was the man least spoken about, in fact the only reference to him was by a fan who asked why did we sign a rider of his age who is seemingly on the way down. This thing with Poland getting a TV deal that will see them race on just about any day of the week is going to make life very hard for the Elite League and even Swedes and Danes will be under immense pressure to ride for their Polish club over a British one, that is the nexus of the problem. I would not assume the final place will be Bridger, that is a potential rider change down the road if Lewis decides he wants to return to full time racing and is totally committed to it but as it stands there is water to be tread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Poor Bjarne. Don't Poole have between 1-3 fixture clashes with Hans and we haven't dropped him, so agree that there is probably another reason as well. Reading the Lakeside statement carefully, there are at least 5 fixture clashes re Bjarne. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) Reading the Lakeside statement carefully, there are at least 5 fixture clashes re Bjarne.They have just listed three as far as I can see. But if more than three then fair enough. Would they not of known about these fixture clashes a while ago? Edited February 22, 2016 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Unfortunately Lisa no, this thing with Poland has only just come into effect, there was a meeting of promoters last week where this was discussed. It's thrown a spanner in the works not just for Lakeside but potentially every Elite League club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Unfortunately Lisa no, this thing with Poland has only just come into effect, there was a meeting of promoters last week where this was discussed. It's thrown a spanner in the works not just for Lakeside but potentially every Elite League club. Ah okay. Thanks for that, interesting times ahead then!! 😌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Poor Bjarne. Don't Poole have between 1-3 fixture clashes with Hans and we haven't dropped him, so agree that there is probably another reason as well. Seems harsh to drop him because of 3 fixture clashes, One would think there is more to it than the official explanation is letting on  I don't think Lakeside should have gone with Bjarne this year, but to drop him just weeks before the season starts is a little unfair in my opinion It's not three fixture clashes though. The club statement says three fixture clashes just against Belle Vue in addition to Coventry and Poole. It also implies the situation is likely to get worse.  When Bjarne first announced he wanted to ride again and wanted a job he said he was going to give Britain priority, then once he had a place at Lakeside he managed to get a job in Poland and suddenly GB is not such a priority after all. It will be a massive game changer for Lakeside because Bjarne was one rider that could give AJ the much needed support in heats 13 and 15, now it depends on someone else stepping up.  Realistically you can't go into tough matches against teams like Belle Vue, Poole and Coventry with r/r for your second heat-leader, especially as Kelvin said he wants to make it a fortress at home. If Bjarne was only missing for home matches against Leicester or Kings Lynn they could probably get by on r/r. On the positive side it seems the message has got home that the fans a are sick to death of guests and r/r.  I suppose it will mean Marmite Bridger will step up. There is no doubt that in the last 2or 3 months of 2014 he was riding really well, probably better than at any time in his career, especially at home, but I kind of feel that is as was at the upper limit of his ability, and really it needs a bit more than that to be a good second heatleader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) The originally issued Polish Nice Division 1 League schedule showed that there was only one clash between Lakeside's fixtures and those of Bjarne's Polish club, Polonia Pila, and that was on Friday 05 August when Pila are due to be riding at home to Bydgoszcz and Lakeside are due to be riding at home to Belle Vue. Â The Lakeside statement states that there are also clashes with Coventry and Poole,so it looks as if these are clashes with Bjarne's Danish club Holsted and would be on: Friday 20 May when Holsted are at Munkebo and Lakeside are due at Coventry and; on Friday 01 July when Holsted are at Esbjerg and Lakeside are due to be at home against Poole. Â (There is also a clash on Wednesday 03 Aug when Lakeside are due at Belle Vue and Holsted are at home to Outrup.) Â Polish League 1 fixtures were announced around 19 January and the Danish fixtures were issued around 26 January. Edited February 22, 2016 by macca56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 lakeside to win the lite league with their 9 riders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 lakeside to win the lite league with their 9 riders If they use Bridger he might get them a ballet award or the most retired rider in history award. They'll be vying with Lions and Wolves for the cherished spoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Lakeside have the biggest squad the world has ever seen to cover missing rider's but sack a rider because he's going to be missing  British Speedway Logic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Lakeside have the biggest squad the world has ever seen to cover missing rider's but sack a rider because he's going to be missing British Speedway Logic Better to be to in that position than to be less than a month from the start of the season and still not even have your basic 1-7 ,! ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Thought Lakeside signed Jonsson to cover any 2-5 absentees!!??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Whilst the designated number 8 can cover riders 2-5 I think it was aimed more at riders 4-5 by average, even then in most cases it will be a weaker replacement but a more presentable one to the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Thought Lakeside signed Jonsson to cover any 2-5 absentees!!??? Â Jonsson (as in Dennis not AJ } was only signed to give him a trial in GB. Jon Cook said last week that he contacted Lakeside during the winter more with a view to his long term career than this season. He is not in any particular hurry to start his British career and is not EL standard yet, but according to Jon if he scores a couple of points in the opening meeting everyone will be happy and they'll take things from there.. Â Maybe the plan is to sign him cheaply, wait till he improves then sell him to Poole at a healthy profit as they appear to be doing with Adam Ellis ( allegedly ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornsey Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Â Jonsson (as in Dennis not AJ } was only signed to give him a trial in GB. Jon Cook said last week that he contacted Lakeside during the winter more with a view to his long term career than this season. He is not in any particular hurry to start his British career and is not EL standard yet, but according to Jon if he scores a couple of points in the opening meeting everyone will be happy and they'll take things from there.. Â Maybe the plan is to sign him cheaply, wait till he improves then sell him to Poole at a healthy profit as they appear to be doing with Adam Ellis ( allegedly ) Wouldn't that be viewed as a shrewd business move, assuming it was somewhere near the truth, of course? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hope we have another heat leader joining otherwise it's going to be another season fighting for the wooden spoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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