In My View Ss Article.

[Fromafar]

Think that tells all regarding BSPA.its a closed shop IMO.

[KIRKYLANE]

Think that tells all regarding BSPA.its a closed shop IMO.

for those who don't get the ss anymore , what is the gist of the article ?

[Alan_Jones]

It's a badly worded article with some confusing and contradictory statements, but this is what I make of it.

 

Nominations for the BSPA MC closed on 13th October and the BSPA issued a memo confirming Buster Chapman, Rob Godfrey and Neil Machin as the only candidates. Because they couldn't vote until the November 3rd meeting it was decide at the AGM that further nominations could be taken before then. There was evidently "uproar" at a claim that the previous memo was in error. Several promoters have since contacted Speedway Star claiming there to be an anti-Buster campaign, one even claiming that a BSPA employee told Buster he had no right applying for the chairmanship without informing them first. These promoters all want to remain anonymous and appear to be ready to support Buster.

Edited October 30, 2015 by Alan Jones

[g13webb]

To me, the article written by the Forum's own Philip Rising was indicative of the governing body of our sport. Amazing, these GUTLESS wonders haven't the presence to stand up for what they believe in. How can our sport survive, when these unhanded existence, is happening at the very top of the game. Not wonder our sport is in the gutter.

 

I thank PR for this brilliant exposing article, from within. Just wished he would name and shame the people concerned,............. but understand why he can't.......

[topaz325]

I have read this article......and says much about the situation the sport is in.

All is rosy in the garden, just tinker with draft riders,tinker with the averages.

 

For months/years the "fans" have been telling the promoters their thoughts and what they dont like about the way Speedway is heading in the Speedway Star and in this forum, even in the last few months in the Speedway star Phil Rising and other contributors have been voicing their opinions.

 

Reading between the lines in the EL sections in the last few weeks there has been gossip about one or two night a week Speedway and other rumours such as squad systems but nothing concrete from the recent AGM.

 

Supporters want a value for money sport , well presented, efficient and colourful!

 

Personally i amnot bothered about losing the "superstar " riders if they were lost to the Eurpoean Leagues if it meant a more cost efficient and susttained sport in Britain.

[barncooseboy]

Lets face it the 2015 season opening Visa situation was caused by the BSPA Office members believing they were above everybody else in the world and they didnt need to rreply to the UKVI (British Government) by the date laid down How much money and angst did that one failure cause? There should be a complete clear out of office staff over that alone

[Fromafar]

I have read this article......and says much about the situation the sport is in.

All is rosy in the garden, just tinker with draft riders,tinker with the averages.

 

For months/years the "fans" have been telling the promoters their thoughts and what they dont like about the way Speedway is heading in the Speedway Star and in this forum, even in the last few months in the Speedway star Phil Rising and other contributors have been voicing their opinions.

 

Reading between the lines in the EL sections in the last few weeks there has been gossip about one or two night a week Speedway and other rumours such as squad systems but nothing concrete from the recent AGM.

 

Supporters want a value for money sport , well presented, efficient and colourful!

 

Personally i amnot bothered about losing the "superstar " riders if they were lost to the Eurpoean Leagues if it meant a more cost efficient and susttained sport in Britain.

Like you say all is rosy in BSPA eyes.Who needs fans!!

[E I Addio]

 

Reading between the lines in the EL sections in the last few weeks there has been gossip about one or two night a week Speedway and other rumours such as squad systems but nothing concrete from the recent AGM.

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Rosco has said there is likely to be a move towards two nights EL, Speedwáy but it can't be done right away.

 

This is is part of the problem with this forum, people are content to read between the lines and pick up on a bit of gossip but don't look out for specific comment. It's not something that the AGM will make rules on but it's for individual promoters to decide on race nights.. It looks as though there will be a gradual move towards Thurs/Fri or Weds /Fri race nights over the course of a few seasons. I understand Belle Vuw want to move to Friday once they have their own stadium, so no doubt others will follow suit as and when they can , but it's not an AGM matter , at least not for rules or preliminary announcements, especially when the AGM is not even finalised yet.

 

The BSPA have enough to answer for without making up complaints based on gossip.

[Fromafar]

Rosco has said there is likely to be a move towards two nights EL, Speedwáy but it can't be done right away.

This is is part of the problem with this forum, people are content to read between the lines and pick up on a bit of gossip but don't look out for specific comment. It's not something that the AGM will make rules on but it's for individual promoters to decide on race nights.. It looks as though there will be a gradual move towards Thurs/Fri or Weds /Fri race nights over the course of a few seasons. I understand Belle Vuw want to move to Friday once they have their own stadium, so no doubt others will follow suit as and when they can , but it's not an AGM matter , at least not for rules or preliminary announcements, especially when the AGM is not even finalised yet.

The BSPA have enough to answer for without making up complaints based on gossip.

the BSPA have enough to answer for FULL STOP.

[g13webb]

Rosco has said there is likely to be a move towards two nights EL, Speedwáy but it can't be done right away.

 

This is is part of the problem with this forum, people are content to read between the lines and pick up on a bit of gossip but don't look out for specific comment. It's not something that the AGM will make rules on but it's for individual promoters to decide on race nights.. It looks as though there will be a gradual move towards Thurs/Fri or Weds /Fri race nights over the course of a few seasons. I understand Belle Vuw want to move to Friday once they have their own stadium, so no doubt others will follow suit as and when they can , but it's not an AGM matter , at least not for rules or preliminary announcements, especially when the AGM is not even finalised yet.

 

The BSPA have enough to answer for without making up complaints based on gossip.

 

Would that come under the heading ' Passing the Buck'.

 

It's not up to promoters to decide what night to run on . Its up the BSPA to control and arrange our league to be run in a correct and proper manner. Each day of the week could be afforded to a specific league. Say 2 days (Wed and Thurs) EL ; Friday, Sat and Sun for PL leaving Mon and Tues for the NL. Once that's been sorted, the Promotions pick what day and league they would like to run. No more problems with meetings clashing for double up riders and everybody would know who races on what day. No more clashes with leagues aboard which would also open the door for more top riders. Such a simple answer to a massive problem. If the BSPA was to put the sport first instead of personal preferences, this would have been sorted years ago......

 

Could you imagine Man utd or Chelsea saying to the FA we will only play on Thursday's ..... ..... exactly....

[The White Knight]

 

Would that come under the heading ' Passing the Buck'.

 

It's not up to promoters to decide what night to run on . Its up the BSPA to control and arrange our league to be run in a correct and proper manner. Each day of the week could be afforded to a specific league. Say 2 days (Wed and Thurs) EL ; Friday, Sat and Sun for PL leaving Mon and Tues for the NL. Once that's been sorted, the Promotions pick what day and league they would like to run. No more problems with meetings clashing for double up riders and everybody would know who races on what day. No more clashes with leagues aboard which would also open the door for more top riders. Such a simple answer to a massive problem. If the BSPA was to put the sport first instead of personal preferences, this would have been sorted years ago......

 

Could you imagine Man utd or Chelsea saying to the FA we will only play on Thursday's ..... ..... exactly....

What about Stadia availability? At certain Stadia you can only Race on a particular Night. That is decided by the 'Landlord' - there is not much a Promoter can do about that.

 

Either accept the Night or close.

 

What happens then?

 

I would not be for closing Tracks.

[g13webb]

What about Stadia availability? At certain Stadia you can only Race on a particular Night. That is decided by the 'Landlord' - there is not much a Promoter can do about that.

 

Either accept the Night or close.

 

What happens then?

 

I would not be for closing Tracks.

 

You're missing the point. Nobody is saying you have to fold or close your track, simply race in the league that runs on the days the track is available.

 

No doubt, you want your cake and eat it as well by picking what league you want to race in........ It's because of this unstructured approach, why the sport is always in the decline .

 

Why should the sport be held to ransom just because Joe Bloggs wants PL on a night that doesn't suit. ??????

[moxey63]

Speedway will only redeem itself once one body is appointed to set the rules and disallow the ability of each club to act purely out of self interests. Some clubs appear to be stronger than the actual body that runs the sport. It is like a shopping complex this sport of ours, every track acting out of self-interest and trying to pull one over the other.The BSPA seem so weak. Then again, how daft is it to have a collective body that runs the sport individually run their own track? Both should be separate.

Edited October 30, 2015 by moxey63

[Tsunami]

 

You're missing the point. Nobody is saying you have to fold or close your track, simply race in the league that runs on the days the track is available.

 

No doubt, you want your cake and eat it as well by picking what league you want to race in........ It's because of this unstructured approach, why the sport is always in the decline .

 

Why should the sport be held to ransom just because Joe Bloggs wants PL on a night that doesn't suit. ??????

Exactly, so why go on about forcing clubs to say two nights. Let the promotions run on the most convenient night for their track.

[moxey63]

British speedway has always existed on seven days a week. So what happened?

 

The answers: allowed riders to dilly-dally into foreign leagues; relied on too many of the so-called team to race for another team, in another division; bowed to the more-attractive and powerful GP, which is expected.

 

There will never be a set night for British speedway. So the solution is to try to address the three main problems I've listed.

[Hawk127]

The sport badly needed a revamp, not tinkering with riders, that will not bring the supporters back yet they fanny about while Rome burns. I am disappointed because I thought some of the people running the sport would recognise that it is the public who contribute to the income and they should at least give some thought to want the customer wants, but no carry on blindly and ignoring those voices who could financially save clubs. Well done BSPA, you may well have thrown your last chance away.

[moxey63]

Come on fellas. Don't expect these business folk running our sport to work wonders. Afterall, that is why the sport hasn't a club that actually owns its own stadium. That is why it has to rely on dog tracks to stage an almost 100-year sport. That is another reason we can't have one race day.

 

ONE HUNDRED YEARS approaching, and we're in a worst state than 40 years ago.

Edited October 30, 2015 by moxey63

[The White Knight]

Come on fellas. Don't expect these business folk running our sport to work wonders. Afterall, that is why the sport hasn't a club that actually owns its own stadium. That is why it has to rely on dog tracks to stage an almost 100-year sport. That is another reason we can't have one race day.

 

ONE HUNDRED YEARS approaching, and we're in a worst state than 40 years ago.

Belle Vue, Redcar, Scunthorpe do off the top of my head - unless I'm missing something moxey63.

[moxey63]

Belle Vue, Redcar, Scunthorpe do off the top of my head - unless I'm missing something moxey63.

 

Is Belle Vue council-owned? Are the other two you've mentioned, WK? The thing is, there is always an uncertain air about a speedway track. For example, would Hyde Road have been allowed to disappear had it been a non-league soccer club? Land containing a speedway track often attracts interest from bulldozers.

[Alan_Jones]

Afterall, that is why the sport hasn't a club that actually owns its own stadium.

 

Rye House, Belle Vue, Scunthorpe, Leicester, Somerset, Glasgow, King's Lynn, Redcar, Buxton, Eastbourne.

 

Edit: ...and Kent.

Edited October 30, 2015 by Alan Jones