Robinh88 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Interesting topic and just another black hole in the world of Speedway and why guest bookings need to stop. It has been brought to my attention a few times about riders who start off poorly drop a point or two and pick lots of other meetings elsewhere. Not knocking anyone for trying to make a better living, but a few riders 2008 2011 stick in my mind of blokes who started badly and ended up with twice the PL fixtures.... There has also been the issue of riders doing it to get team places elsewhere, which I am certain is nothing new I guess you just need to be careful who you sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Never happens, it's all in the imagination. Besides I haven't seen any suspicious average lowering for at least.... ......an hour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Is average manipulation cheating if so where is Lewy on this subject 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Interesting topic and just another black hole in the world of Speedway and why guest bookings need to stop. It has been brought to my attention a few times about riders who start off poorly drop a point or two and pick lots of other meetings elsewhere. Not knocking anyone for trying to make a better living, but a few riders 2008 2011 stick in my mind of blokes who started badly and ended up with twice the PL fixtures.... There has also been the issue of riders doing it to get team places elsewhere, which I am certain is nothing new I guess you just need to be careful who you sign Have to agree,riders have to watch their average nowadays for Team places the following season . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Average manipulation has gone on for years, these rolling averages may not be perfect but at least they mean it takes longer to get your average down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Average manipulation has gone on for years, these rolling averages may not be perfect but at least they mean it takes longer to get your average down.The rolling averages certainly helps regarding dropping averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 The rolling averages certainly helps regarding dropping averages. It does, though it could also be argued that any club that have a rider that is obviously dropping his average and keep him in the team, deserve all they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Of course often it is in the teams interests for them to lower their average. Has happened since the 80s. Rolling averages may not fix it, but has made it tougher to do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Average manipulation has gone on for years, these rolling averages may not be perfect but at least they mean it takes longer to get your average down. Didn't inconvenience Kevin Wolbert too much in his average quest in 2014 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 he was just low on confidence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 According to John Campbell we didn't speak to him the right way. Obviously telling him to f...ing get the finger out, was not what he liked hearing......Although we should've just told him to get out! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Edinburgh v Glasgow at the Dale a few years ago in June. Don't need to say any more. Edinburgh v Glasgow at the Dale a few years ago in June. Don't need to say any more. Sorry wrong thread. Should be in one called team manipulation of averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Burgergate still the best one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Burgergate still the best one Yes, it cost us the PL title that year. We won the 42.50 league, but the Monarchs won the 44.00 league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yes, it cost us the PL title that year. We won the 42.50 league, but the Monarchs won the 44.00 league. Edinbiurgh always plan in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Edinbiurgh never plane in advance! Tidied for you mate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Edinbiurgh always plan in advance! Like telling a rider not to travel like. Allegedly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Edinburgh v Glasgow at the Dale a few years ago in June. See this old chestnut rears its head as soon as someone even insinuates anything against the beloved Monarchs predictable tiresome but predictable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Burgergate still the best one If only Two Kevs 2014 engines worked as quick as that Berlin airport burger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Burger gate! No idea what you mean, as far as I'm aware he was ill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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