Aces51 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Boxall nicholls and fricke all return to complete teamMore than pleased with that, Cook,Fricke and both Worralls all likely to improve their averages and Boxall likely to score more than Nielsen. I accept that Boxall is going to have to prove his reliability but other good choices are available if he doesn't stay the course. Let's hope now that those sides that may be struggling to build competitive teams are able to do so. It is not good for the sport for any teams in an 8 team league to be significantly below the standard of the rest. Edited December 2, 2015 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Once we lost Stefan to Swindon then it was a difficult choice to find a replacement. Provided Steve Boxall is on suitable equipment for EL , he will do a good job at 7 Really pleased with our 1 - 7 for 2016. Edited December 2, 2015 by KIRKYLANE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Boxall is a better rider than Stef. Swindon have done you a favour! Stef has never been anything more than a PL reserve (doubt hes ever had a meeting in the 1-5) while Boxall even in a bad year is a PL second string who averages just shy of 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 The point was someone asked a polite question, all he got back in response was some arsey response that didn't help. Made those making a response look childish. As you say, it has clearly been looked into, it has clearly been handled so someone, somewhere should be able to answer. You on the other hand chose to get defensive. That has been the case from the start with this project, some people have got very defensive about something they really have had no need to do. my reply was never meant to sound anything but truthful, as for defensive again my reply was nothing of the sort it was merely an obvious reply to yet even more negative posts about Belle Vue's new stadium, it's here, the home work will of been done, now all we need are more promoters with ambition and backing to take British speedway forward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Very pleased with that team. Considering we couldn't keep the same side due to points limits and the dodgy draft we have essentially replaced two PL riders who averaged 13.24 with two that averaged 12.99. Only a slight change to a, cheating aside, play off winning team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Looks like another good season ahead for the aces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Of the few teams that have completed their line-up, This one from Belle Vue has to start out as one of the strongest. Well done to the promoters for retaining most of last years riders, something that has been missing in recent years . Fans like nothing more than a continuation of riders, to relate with. Obviously Lady luck will play her part, but barring any unforeseen problems, Belle Vue should be there or thereabouts..... Edited December 2, 2015 by GRW123 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Boxall is a better rider than Stef. Swindon have done you a favour! Stef has never been anything more than a PL reserve (doubt hes ever had a meeting in the 1-5) while Boxall even in a bad year is a PL second string who averages just shy of 6. Read one or two comments on the Rye House thread. While Boxall has certainly got a better record in terms of points scoring than Nielsen, at least Belle Vue will know that Nielsen will turn up to every meeting and still be riding for the club at the end of May. That makes Nielsen a better signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Very impressed with Boxall during his all-too-short spell at Lakeside before he was injured. Quite a gutsy rider from what I saw, and although he has an unfortunate reputation for reliability ( or lack of it ) he seems to have matured quite a lot a deserves this chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Read one or two comments on the Rye House thread. While Boxall has certainly got a better record in terms of points scoring than Nielsen, at least Belle Vue will know that Nielsen will turn up to every meeting and still be riding for the club at the end of May. That makes Nielsen a better signing. That is a strange logic to apply given we haven't turned a wheel yet. I think Steve deserves an opportunity first? I don't think there is an argument in terms of ability. Stefan appears to have reached his level. There PL scores tell the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 That is a strange logic to apply given we haven't turned a wheel yet. I think Steve deserves an opportunity first? I don't think there is an argument in terms of ability. Stefan appears to have reached his level. There PL scores tell the story. He's had them. That's where he gets his reputation for unreliability and unprofessionalism from. Its all very well having better scores, but they are worth nothing if the rider isn't there. As I said, read the comments on the Rye House thread - after all, that's the last club Boxall rode for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Does Boxall Still only have one bike put together with elastic bands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Boxall certainly does have question marks over his reliability but as things stand it looks as if there are still some decent alternatives we could use if the need arises. Let's hope it isn't necessary. As for Stefan, I think many Aces fans wanted him back and were sorry to see him go. He was a popular member of the team who progressed during his time with us and I think will still progress further, given the right help and guidance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Team looks very solid. Personally think it's the strongest completed line up so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Partly agree with the above comment. I think if you had 1.zagar 2.kurtz 3.buckz 4.hans 5.cook 6.newman 7.ellis That would be strongest line up available for the 2teams combined imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Boxall has decent ability. Equipment always seems to be a problem and if he can get that sorted then he should do a decent job at reserve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Partly agree with the above comment. I think if you had 1.zagar 2.kurtz 3.buckz 4.hans 5.cook 6.newman 7.ellis That would be strongest line up available for the 2teams combined imo. Poole are stronger than the Aces IMO, but expect Belle Vue and Swindon to be battling for the other spot in final at this early stage. I think Zagar, Cook, Nicholls is almost inseperable from Holder, Andersen,Buzz. Fricke and Kurtz very similar. Watt however is clearly stronger than R worrall, And Newman/Ellis a stronger reserve pairing than Worrall/Boxall. Overall, I'd say that Poole team looks stronger by a couple of points, but more than happy with the Aces line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Read one or two comments on the Rye House thread. While Boxall has certainly got a better record in terms of points scoring than Nielsen, at least Belle Vue will know that Nielsen will turn up to every meeting and still be riding for the club at the end of May. That makes Nielsen a better signing. I missing this unreliable thing. He did walk out on Somerset about 7 years ago. But other than that.... Plus I'd rather a rider who turned up half the time and averages 6 than a rider who rides ever meeting and averages 4. The one who averages 6 will win you things. Does Boxall Still only have one bike put together with elastic bands? Yet despite his one bike held together with elastic bands still averages more than every other tier 2 rider did in the PL last season. Which makes him the best tier 2 rider. Maybe the riders not as good as him should make sure their bikes are held together with elastic bands as they clearly make Steve faster than them! He got that higher average riding in the 1-5 unlike most of the tier 2 draft riders who got their averages in the reserve berths in the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I missing this unreliable thing. He did walk out on Somerset about 7 years ago. But other than that.... Plus I'd rather a rider who turned up half the time and averages 6 than a rider who rides ever meeting and averages 4. The one who averages 6 will win you things. Yet despite his one bike held together with elastic bands still averages more than every other tier 2 rider did in the PL last season. Which makes him the best tier 2 rider. Maybe the riders not as good as him should make sure their bikes are held together with elastic bands as they clearly make Steve faster than them! He got that higher average riding in the 1-5 unlike most of the tier 2 draft riders who got their averages in the reserve berths in the PL. Boxalll was not a tier 2 rider , only 2 tier 2 riders have been selected . Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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