Game On Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Which words of mine do you not understand now, Liar Troll? I can help with your education into the world of human beings and the 21st century if would like me to. Well done good effort, that nearly made sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Which words of mine do you not understand now, Liar Troll? I can help with your education into the world of human beings and the 21st century if would like me to. Well done good effort, that nearly made sense. This is more like dear Deidre than Belle Vue forum!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nicki Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 This is more like dear Deidre than Belle Vue forum!! Sorry everybody, I can't get the Liar Troll ('Game On' the poster who said they had proof that Dakota North's father was not injured) off my back - which is not a pleasant sight, or experience. Hope you can get your Thread back now and Enjoy your speedway folks. Hope it happens soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Sorry everybody, I can't get the Liar Troll ('Game On' the poster who said they had proof that Dakota North's father was not injured) off my back - which is not a pleasant sight, or experience. Hope you can get your Thread back now and Enjoy your speedway folks. Hope it happens soon. Well I'm sure your enjoying the attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Instead of all of these continuing allegations perhaps some people need to consider objectively what we now know about what has happened The facts are that we now know that the problem with the track is and always has been the base on the 3rd and 4th bends, which was not constructed in accordance with the specification. We know it is a fault that was hidden under the surface and therefore not obvious to those inspecting the track and we know that the track can be ok, even after extensive practice but that cold or inclement weather can then cause problems to appear which could not be forseen or anticipated. We know this because of what happened before the Leicester meeting. On the Wednesday before the match on the Friday the track came through an extensive practice session ok but then late on the Thursday water had risen to the surface on those bends and was flowing down the track. Going back now to the PCMM meeting, the situation on the Friday prior to the meeting was that two riders tested the track and it was OK. Even the Chairman of the SCB grudgingly admitted after their investigation that on the Friday the track looked as if it would just come right for the Saturday. We know that the track looked ok on the Saturday, we know that the riders were not paying undue attention to those bends during their track inspection, which they would have done if the problems were visible and as obvious as some must believe. We also know that the SCB referee, who had control of the meeting from 2 hours before start time, did not call off the meeting, which he would have to have done if the track was visibly unsafe. This all clearly points to the fact that there was no reason to believe on the Friday and during the day on Saturday that the track was not raceable and that the meeting should be postponed. It was the cold inclement weather on the Saturday which caused the track to become unsafe,just as it did on the Thursday before the Leicester match but at that time nobody knew about the defective base. On a different aspect, I can understand why some are pointing out that Colin Meredith should have, supervised, overseen, advised, on the track build and should now do so with the repairs. As has been said many times, the MCC are in charge of this project, Belle Vue cannot insist or demand anything. The Council are aware of Colin's expertise but only they can decide if they wish to utilise his skills. Don't waste your time and energy trying to explain to someone who clearly only wants to lay blame. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin wood Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Yes let's get back on track .What we've learned so far is that the management at Belle Vue are not to blame for the state of the track,which is now being sorted out.Poole's track meanwhile which Starman kindly informed us was laid in a week and has come in for some criticism looks like its not going to be repaired any time soon.The money is probably earmarked for the main stand and back straight terracing which Shovvy informed us is in a bit of a state.Meanwhile some posters think the new NSS stadium is a waste of time and we should have stayed at the dog track!Oh well its nice to beg to differ I suppose. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Holes, dips, crowns, adverse cambers, ruts, are notoriously hard to reinstate, crowns being the easier.. Holes and dips, even after filling, wackering, filling, wackering never seem to "stay" filled and always seem to get "power slided" out! Or absorb water quicker, soften, then get graded out! Where possible, it's much better to grind a hole/deep rut bigger and not to leave a vertical edge.. Fill the bigger hole, which is now more of a dip with small layers, wacker well, them another layer, wacker well.. if the problem area is really deep, into or through the base, then a soil stabiliser can be used in the initial filling, but don't overdo that stage, build the infill up slowly, difficult to do in winter if it's very wet, short of dry weather and little sun/warmth as the layers will not fully cure.... In my opinion. Edited April 18, 2016 by Shale Searcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Holes, dips, crowns, adverse cambers, ruts, are notoriously hard to reinstate, crowns being the easier.. Holes and dips, even after filling, wackering, filling, wackering never seem to "stay" filled and always seem to get "power slided" out! Or absorb water quicker, soften, then get graded out! Where possible, it's much better to grind a hole/deep rut bigger and not to leave a vertical edge.. Fill the bigger hole, which is now more of a dip with small layers, wacker well, them another layer, wacker well.. if the problem area is really deep, into or through the base, then a soil stabiliser can be used in the initial filling, but don't overdo that stage, build the infill up slowly, difficult to do in winter if it's very wet, short of dry weather and little sun/warmth as the layers will not fully cure.... In my opinion. should be ready for 2017 then, you've not been talking to Chapman by any chance,have you!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Yes let's get back on track .What we've learned so far is that the management at Belle Vue are not to blame for the state of the track,which is now being sorted out.Poole's track meanwhile which Starman kindly informed us was laid in a week and has come in for some criticism looks like its not going to be repaired any time soon.The money is probably earmarked for the main stand and back straight terracing which Shovvy informed us is in a bit of a state.Meanwhile some posters think the new NSS stadium is a waste of time and we should have stayed at the dog track!Oh well its nice to beg to differ I suppose. still not repaired that hole the tractor driver 'accidently' dug on bend 1 ? you would think poole would be able to spend big and get it done properly and not keep bodging it up Edited April 18, 2016 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 should be ready for 2017 then, you've not been talking to Chapman by any chance,have you!. No.....!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I was told by the management that Swindon was going to have the WC at their new stadium in 2016, should they move the venue, oh hang on a bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I was told by the management that Swindon was going to have the WC at their new stadium in 2016, should they move the venue, oh hang on a bit I think by 'WC' they meant the replacement for the infamous back straight bogs A ORLOV!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) I think by 'WC' they meant the replacement for the infamous back straight bogs A ORLOV!!! I wish you were right, but no they were talking out of the wrong orifice. The projected stadium has a spectator capacity of 3500 and confirmed parking for 572 vehicles at the stadium . If stadia uk charge for parking and there are alternatives available next door to the stadium do you think people are going to pay to park. I will not pay for parking if I can help it, I have never paid at Poole when I visit. Edited April 18, 2016 by A ORLOV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Colts meeting scheduled for Sunday ahead of next Wednesday's poole Sky match. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I thought i'd read that the sky match was put back to may ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 This thread seems to be going round in circles. Hope the track is nearly sorted and we can just get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 They are anticipating that the work will be finished on Friday and obviously only if everything goes to plan will the Colts match take place on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 TBH I want this to happen. Here's hoping. RE: Swindon parking. It#s perfectly normal to use on street parking when you park for a sporting event. Planning rules are just over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) Fingers crossed then, can't see how it's possible to dig it up and relay it in just 8 days when 100+ days was a 'rush job'. I suppose it will only show those peddling the 'rush job' theory as blatant liars which can't be the case. Someone is lying though? NOT sure that anyone has said they took 100 days to finish bends 3/4 after the contractors had stopped using that part of the track as an entry/exit point. Three months (100 days) before the scheduled opening the rest of the track wasn't laid. The theory is that the contractors bodged that last section and that combined with the weather and one or two other reasons it didn't settle as had the rest of the circuit. Now, presumably, they have completed the track to the same specifications as the rest and all, hopefully sooner rather than later, will be good. No doubt Sky will be anxious to see the junior match go ahead but without it my guess is they might switch the fixture to Wimborne Road. Edited April 21, 2016 by PHILIPRISING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Fingers crossed then, can't see how it's possible to dig it up and relay it in just 8 days when 100+ days was a 'rush job'. I suppose it will only show those peddling the 'rush job' theory as blatant liars which can't be the case. Someone is lying though? So im getting the gist from this post the whole of bends 3-4 are going to be re-laid then ? Very wise, because if they don't i would fully expect the problem to be ongoing. And yes, our old track curator put in the present track at Poole in a week, save for help with fence poles and chicken wire.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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