Starman2006 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) ARE you serious? David Gordon and Chris Morton have spent seven years of their lives bringing this to fruition. It's a hic-up, a big one admittedly, but if you manage to go there Steve you will marvel at what they have achieved and appreciate what a wonderful facility British speedway has at it's disposal. Do you honestly expect them to walk away and allow another promoter (Matt Ford?) to reap the benefit. Granted Phil, but it took them just 3 hours to balls the whole lot up,along with that Track curator.. As I said umpteen times, they would have known and so did the track curator know bends 3-4 was to soft and not racable, and therefore the meeting should never had gone ahead nor fans let in,and because of that ,they've backed themselves into a corner. And im sure the speedy Star will have a full write up this week. Edited March 21, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 surprised at lack of coverage really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 ARE you serious? David Gordon and Chris Morton have spent seven years of their lives bringing this to fruition. It's a hic-up, a big one admittedly, but if you manage to go there Steve you will marvel at what they have achieved and appreciate what a wonderful facility British speedway has at it's disposal. Do you honestly expect them to walk away and allow another promoter (Matt Ford?) to reap the benefit. Not there choice ..if they lose there licence ..lets be honest they should have have lost it after the Poole match . letting convicted cheats carry on was only going to end badly . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelliejim Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 it wont be long until someone blames it all on Poole and MF its the done thing on this forum isnt it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 it wont be long until someone blames it all on Poole and MF its the done thing on this forum isnt it ! Somebody already has. Par for the course I suppose.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzCagney Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) surprised at lack of coverage really Its speedway so, to borrow a phrase from above, par for the course. Oh look, a speedway meeting ended in an embarrassing shambles. Really? Anyway, crap weather we've been having...... Edited March 21, 2016 by BuzzCagney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Granted Phil, but it took them just 3 hours to balls the whole lot up,along with that Track curator... And im sure the speedy Star will have a full write up this week. lol ..looking forward to that ....Don't expect any stick for Belle Vue seeing how close Phil is with Gordon and Morton . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Some of the reaction on here is really sad. Quite frankly you don't deserve to be speedway fans. Last post for me on here. I'm off to support my club and give them backing they deserve for the work that has gone in over the last 9 years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 WHY. It's BV's track, and their opening night, and had the relevant licence covering actual dimensions. If a promotion goes ahead with a meeting despite advice to the contrary, it's down to them to get it right. They didn't. You've alluded more than once that they were advised not to go ahead with the meeting. Can you tell us who by, what was said and when this took place? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzCagney Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) They deserve credit for the magnificent stadium, definitely, but wow, what a massive balls up they made of actually putting it to use! Edited March 21, 2016 by BuzzCagney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) DEFINITELY shades of Warsaw here. As I now understand it the BV management had no direct control over the laying of the track as that fell within the remit of the contractors and until such time as the stadium is officially handed over that will remain the case. Really, then where the hell was the track curator,he should have been overseeing the process. And that is fact... Edited March 21, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 WHY. It's BV's track, and their opening night, and had the relevant licence covering actual dimensions. If a promotion goes ahead with a meeting despite advice to the contrary, it's down to them to get it right. They didn't. You've alluded more than once that they were advised not to go ahead with the meeting. Can you tell us who by, what was said and when this took place? The statement put out by BV could be a legal cover for them. Imagine 50 people going to small claims demanding BV pay for their hotel, fuel etc as they knew of the problem but still allowed people to waste their money fully in the knowledge that these people were wasting their money. Do the BV two actually have any actual financial input in the club? The stadium isnt theirs, so basically they just have the lisence. By bringing the sport into disrepute can the bspa remove the licence and stick a promoter in there who could do a good job. I think you're right about the statement being framed as it was for legal reasons but nothing to do with actions against them in the small claims court but action they may have to take against others. So far as I understand it David and Chris have a considerable stake in the new stadium. Do you recall the long list of financial backers that David put forward and they are repaying the cost of the stadium to the council over a substantial number of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 You've alluded more than once that they were advised not to go ahead with the meeting. Can you tell us who by, what was said and when this took place If Tsunami said so with his contacts I would take it as gospel ...he also tends to stick up for promoters as a rule . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Really, then where the hell was the track curator,he should have been overseeing the process. And that is fact... His could he oversee it if Belle Vue had no control over the contractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 It's not our fault, it's not the BSPA's fault. I mean really???? Just whose fault do they assume it is? its clear no lessons have been learned by those in charge of our sport as is usual it's always someone else's fault. Do they seriously believe anyone is buying the options of running Friday? They had the track tested last week yet that proved nothing. Even if they offered assurances, free entry,free parking, a free easter egg and a £20 gift voucher I still wouldn't waste my time going on Friday. I guess promoters really do think supporters will buy any guff announcement. It's the weathers fault, remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 What an appalling statement to make. From appointing one donut as head of the bspa to another. Belle vue messed up, but to see a statement like that is baffling. And he wonders why the wheels are falling off at his club at an alarming rate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 His could he oversee it if Belle Vue had no control over the contractors. The track curator has an obligation to oversee the laying of the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 If Tsunami said so with his contacts I would take it as gospel ...he also tends to stick up for promoters as a rule . He is doing, he's supporting the BSPA. Those are the people who in this instance issued a statement blaming one of their members without first bothering to find out the facts. There is no way now that they can carry out an impartial investigation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) BSPA Chairman Keith Chapman said: This is a massive setback to the sport in this country and it can have a negative impact on every other club throughout the UK. It was down to the promotion to ensure the meeting went ahead under the supervision of the SCB referee and failed. It's an embarrassment and the rest of the sport in this country could be hit by it". A thorough investigation has already started. _____________________________________________________________________ Says a bloke who cancelled a meeting at Kings Lynn against Lakeside because, although he had 72 hours to do so, couldn't identify and fix a blown fuse. Pity there wasn't 'a thorough investigation' over that incident isn't it Chapman. Pot bleedin' kettle if ever I've seen it. Two-faced tw@t! Edited March 21, 2016 by The Voice Of Reason 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 The track curator has an obligation to oversee the laying of the track. Don't talk rubbish. This wasn't a normal situation. This was a new stadium. It was a part of the contract that the building company would build the track and Belle Vue have no authority over the contractors until the stadium is handed over to them. They couldn't tell the contractors what or, what not, to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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