Shadders Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 10 years ago? Time to move on from that I think. You're welcome to move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Seem to be a lot of posters quaking in their boots at the thought of their team having to face mighty mitch. Good stuff. Don't think its quite that, more other teams have stuck by the rules governing 3pt riders, now along come Edinburgh and try and sign a rider that doesn't meet the criteria. If Edinburgh do manage to get a passport for Davey you can be sure other clubs will look to do likewise, and you cant blame them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Think it's been common knowledge for months. The fact is we embraced the concept last season in duplicate and Rob has been shafted as a result. And yes I would rather have seen Rob get the team place ahead of Mitchell this season. I think last year was much more about needs must to make the top 5 fit than 'embracing the concept in duplicate' and now its a convenient deflection strategy for you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 It was a different way of team building. So many "experts" have long stated that a top quality is essential to win the league. But we won in 2014 with a team that had pretty poor reserves by the end of the season. So we tried it again in 2015 with a pair of very inexperienced youngsters. Neither rider was expected to score many but the hope/expectation was that they would learn enough to kick on this season. And they would have done I'm sure .................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Think it's been common knowledge for months. The fact is we embraced the concept last season in duplicate and Rob has been shafted as a result. And yes I would rather have seen Rob get the team place ahead of Mitchell this season. Firstly if Davey is eligible under the rules then OK, whether it is a signing within the spirit of what was intended is up for debate! However if you believe that Edinburgh signing two 3pt riders last seasons was a noble act designed to embrace the concept of promoting young British talent then you are seriously deluded. Last season Edinburgh went with a team building plan which incorporated room for 6pts at reserve and, hats off, it proved to be totally successful. To expect plaudits for "sticking with" these riders for the season is also laughable, if the team had not performed and there was a chance to change one of reserves for a higher average rider I'm sure that would have happened, but as already stated the plan worked and both reserves contributed to back up top five. I agree it is disappointing that Branford is without a team slot, but this just highlights the lack of thought in the ruling - riders with averages below 4 were always going to struggle to get a place, look how many teams have gone with a second reserve under 4pt average. Points limit should have been dropped and additional limit of 7.5 on total reserves averages including the 3pt NL rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Taken from - http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.29729 “SPEEDWAY bosses are ready to give more opportunities to British youngsters in the 2016 season” Premier League representative George English, also a member of Management Committee, said: “We are pleased to implement the introduction of a British rider in the No.7 spot and we can confirm Heats 2 and 4 are protected so the No.7 riders will meet each other at least twice per meeting. I genuinely couldn’t care less what passport Mitchell Davey does or doesn’t hold the signing of him goes against the grain of the Corinthian spirit of the implementation of a fast track rule. I don’t doubt counter points will be made such as “well last year we signed Branford and he was squeezed out” or “different ways of building teams” or even “well it is only Mitchell Davey”, irrelevant points, as is the idea that riders wouldn’t travel, every other side has managed, I am sure riders would have travelled I would assume they simply aren’t as good as Mitchell Davey. It would be nice if the sport could introduce a rule, implement it and stick to it. The idea that promotions have a free pass simply because they find a loophole in a rule isn’t something to be applauded, used as a defence when they manipulate a rule or even a way to build a team in the first place. It’s verging on cheating and immoral to “exploit loopholes”, if rules are simply there to be manipulated and broken in the eyes of promotions, either don’t bother with them, or fine promotions when they decide to find loopholes rather than sticking to rules which other clubs seem to be able to manage to do. Edited January 28, 2016 by sparkafag 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 It's a laugh - lighten up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Taken from - http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.29729 “SPEEDWAY bosses are ready to give more opportunities to British youngsters in the 2016 season” Premier League representative George English, also a member of Management Committee, said: “We are pleased to implement the introduction of a British rider in the No.7 spot and we can confirm Heats 2 and 4 are protected so the No.7 riders will meet each other at least twice per meeting. I genuinely couldn’t care less what passport Mitchell Davey does or doesn’t hold the signing of him goes against the grain of the Corinthian spirit of the implementation of a fast track rule. I don’t doubt counter points will be made such as “well last year we signed Branford and he was squeezed out” or “different ways of building teams” or even “well it is only Mitchell Davey”, irrelevant points, as is the idea that riders wouldn’t travel, every other side has managed, I am sure riders would have travelled I would assume they simply aren’t as good as Mitchell Davey. It would be nice if the sport could introduce a rule, implement it and stick to it. The idea that promotions have a free pass simply because they find a loophole in a rule isn’t something to be applauded, used as a defence when they manipulate a rule or even a way to build a team in the first place. It’s verging on cheating and immoral to “exploit loopholes”, if rules are simply there to be manipulated and broken in the eyes of promotions, either don’t bother with them, or fine promotions when they decide to find loopholes rather than sticking to rules which other clubs seem to be able to manage to do. I agree with you, but its only verging on cheating if Edinburgh are allowed to exploit their loophole, as you say the BSPA need to enforce the rule that's there now as it seems simple enough to the rest of the clubs in the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) It's a laugh - lighten up!! I’ve never heard Billy Connolly have to tell people he was telling a joke… Edited January 28, 2016 by sparkafag 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 People will need to wait and see if and when he gets his passport then Edinburgh will have to submit him to scb what if they knock him back don't think it will be as simple as get passport straight onto team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 I’ve never heard Billy Connolly have to tell people he was telling a joke… So you've been to all his gigs? He must be well impressed. Do you sit beside him at porkheid too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) So you've been to all his gigs? He must be well impressed. Do you sit beside him at porkheid too? Your patter is honking. Edited January 28, 2016 by sparkafag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 It's a laugh - lighten up!! I think the joke is on you . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Comment? (That's French by the way.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 i made a comment on here or was it the somerset thread about edinburgh sticking to the rules, unlike somerset it now seems that the monarchs boss,s are twisting the rules a little to get davey into the 2016 team .. thet cant get a rider to travel , poor excuse about the travelling on a Friday night . the number 7 spot was earmarked for British riders and not overseas ones . i dont mind the edinburgh promotion , but in this case, its a bending/twisting of the number7 rule . if davey gets his british passport sorted out and he is presented to the powers that be, they may throw out edinburgh,s 7th rider as being not British. still we will have to wait and see . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Taken from - http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.29729 SPEEDWAY bosses are ready to give more opportunities to British youngsters in the 2016 season Premier League representative George English, also a member of Management Committee, said: We are pleased to implement the introduction of a British rider in the No.7 spot and we can confirm Heats 2 and 4 are protected so the No.7 riders will meet each other at least twice per meeting. I genuinely couldnt care less what passport Mitchell Davey does or doesnt hold the signing of him goes against the grain of the Corinthian spirit of the implementation of a fast track rule. I dont doubt counter points will be made such as well last year we signed Branford and he was squeezed out or different ways of building teams or even well it is only Mitchell Davey, irrelevant points, as is the idea that riders wouldnt travel, every other side has managed, I am sure riders would have travelled I would assume they simply arent as good as Mitchell Davey. It would be nice if the sport could introduce a rule, implement it and stick to it. The idea that promotions have a free pass simply because they find a loophole in a rule isnt something to be applauded, used as a defence when they manipulate a rule or even a way to build a team in the first place. Its verging on cheating and immoral to exploit loopholes, if rules are simply there to be manipulated and broken in the eyes of promotions, either dont bother with them, or fine promotions when they decide to find loopholes rather than sticking to rules which other clubs seem to be able to manage to do. Don't mean to pee on your fire, nor have I turned.The headline says " British Youngsters". Now when did 29 become a youngster. Who's signed a 29 year old? Edited January 28, 2016 by george.m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Facts are Mitchell Davey debuted in the pl in 2008, still has a sub 3 average, must be in his late 20's and is Australian. And hes odds on to become edinburghs fast track number 7, designed to help young brits progress in the sport. You couldnt make it up!!! Even if he does take out a uk passport, it is still ridiculous. Youll have Glenn cunningham being re assessed and used as somersets number 8 next Edited January 28, 2016 by Pinny 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebaker Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Ex BSPA Chairman, Mr. Harkness leading by example. Edited January 28, 2016 by simmo1958 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Don't mean to pee on your fire, nor have I turned. The headline says " British Youngsters". Now when did 29 become a youngster. Who's signed a 29 year old? Can't think George!! But I hope you appreciate him! And I think Lee Payne might be the other one!! And then there's the other two that started riding in 2009 and 2010 respectively. And one of their new teams was doing a fair bit of creativity last season. And of course BWD was born in New Zealand. Buy hey ho - you only want blood because it's us! I also heard a wee rumour that because Mitch has missed the last couple of seasons through injury he is entitled to a reduction in the 3.0 starting average. Only a rumour you understand!! Ex BSPA Chairman, Mr. Harkness leading by example. That post was so original and good that you had to Like it yourself!! Wowser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Can't think George!! But I hope you appreciate him! And I think Lee Payne might be the other one!! And then there's the other two that started riding in 2009 and 2010 respectively. And one of their new teams was doing a fair bit of creativity last season. And of course BWD was born in New Zealand. Buy hey ho - you only want blood because it's us! I also heard a wee rumour that because Mitch has missed the last couple of seasons through injury he is entitled to a reduction in the 3.0 starting average. Only a rumour you understand!! That post was so original and good that you had to Like it yourself!! Wowser. If Davey should get his GB passport let him serve a year in the national league like B.W.D. has and then see if you still want him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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