Dekker Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 is it like a smaller Exeter ? In what way, its not a track you ride the boards all the time and the fence isnt steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 However, Ipswich and Glasgow don't look so strong...Glasgow are far too top heavy of which I'm struggling to see which one of them (possibly Worrall exempt) will increase their average... None of the other 3 look likely to give any sort of consistent back-up. Teams have won championships with so called "top heavy" teams, e.g. when it was: Joe Owen, Rod Hunter, Bobby Beaton, Alan Emerson, it didn't matter what the other 3 scored - that top 4 obliterated any team on their own. Long time ago yes, but to have two 10 pointers (Hunter and Beaton), an 11 pointer (Joe Owen), then also an 8 pointer (Emerson) was already too much for any team. The other 3 might as well not have bothered to turn a wheel, it didn't matter. As I recall they did it 2 seasons on the trot, winning back to back championships. They were feared alright and it was nothing to do with the bottom 3 riders although there's more than one way to skin a cat right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 It's not a trick track so I disagree with some of the above posts. It does however require thought and a bit of skill to get round, something some riders these days are sadly lacking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchlad Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Good riders should be able to ride any track 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Good riders should be able to ride any track If you mean every "good" rider will ride every track well, to paraphrase Don Corleone if history (of speedway) has taught us anything... it is that not all riders can ride all tracks well! There will always be tracks that some riders are suited to better than others and conversely some tracks that are bogey tracks for some riders, even high average ones. By and large you're right of course, most will the majority of the time, but.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 If you mean every "good" rider will ride every track well, to paraphrase Don Corleone if history (of speedway) has taught us anything... it is that not all riders can ride all tracks well! There will always be tracks that some riders are suited to better than others and conversely some tracks that are bogey tracks for some riders, even high average ones. By and large you're right of course, most will the majority of the time, but.... The dale shows up those that have poor turning technique and who lose speed in the turns - usually they don't go in fast enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spt82 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Yes. Except you could fit it inside LakesideLakeside is 252 meters, Armadale is 278 meters so you're talking garbage there I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucks Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Good riders should be able to ride any track horses fof courses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 At least give him credit for having the b***s and self belief to try. Sure it is a gamble but at least, if it does not work out, he won't spend the rest of his life wondering 'If only ...'. He has a long way to go to be regarded as GP standard but who would have thought that Zagar, Iversen, Kildermand, Batchelor Doyle etc.would make the grade, looking back to their early days in Britain. Too many riders 'step off the bus' when the going gets tough and settle for a comfortable life within their comfort zone. spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Teams have won championships with so called "top heavy" teams, e.g. when it was: Joe Owen, Rod Hunter, Bobby Beaton, Alan Emerson, it didn't matter what the other 3 scored - that top 4 obliterated any team on their own. Long time ago yes, but to have two 10 pointers (Hunter and Beaton), an 11 pointer (Joe Owen), then also an 8 pointer (Emerson) was already too much for any team. The other 3 might as well not have bothered to turn a wheel, it didn't matter. As I recall they did it 2 seasons on the trot, winning back to back championships. They were feared alright and it was nothing to do with the bottom 3 riders although there's more than one way to skin a cat right enough. Agreed, back in the day when speedway was based 90% skill, 10% speed... However, I don't see which one of Glasgow's string quartet fit into the Owen/Hunter/Beaton/Emerson mould... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Agreed, back in the day when speedway was based 90% skill, 10% speed... However, I don't see which one of Glasgow's string quartet fit into the Owen/Hunter/Beaton/Emerson mould... Of course you don't haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Lakeside is 252 meters, Armadale is 278 meters so you're talking garbage there I'm afraid. And you're taking my post far too serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Re Fisher i think he will do a good job as 3rd heat leader ,even allowing he was 3rd choice after Ritchie W and Josh G who decided to go elsewhere,I believe Glasgow contacted Fisher early on but his demands were to excesive. Now they have the fans trust Edinburgh can go back to paying rates that Glasgow cant match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Re Fisher i think he will do a good job as 3rd heat leader ,even allowing he was 3rd choice after Ritchie W and Josh G who decided to go elsewhere,I believe Glasgow contacted Fisher early on but his demands were to excesive. Now they have the fans trust Edinburgh can go back to paying rates that Glasgow cant match Thats the story of Fishers career (excessive demands). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Re Fisher i think he will do a good job as 3rd heat leader ,even allowing he was 3rd choice after Ritchie W and Josh G who decided to go elsewhere,I believe Glasgow contacted Fisher early on but his demands were to excesive. Now they have the fans trust Edinburgh can go back to paying rates that Glasgow cant match Surely Embra aren't trying to buy the league? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Re Fisher i think he will do a good job as 3rd heat leader ,even allowing he was 3rd choice after Ritchie W and Josh G who decided to go elsewhere,I believe Glasgow contacted Fisher early on but his demands were to excesive. Now they have the fans trust Edinburgh can go back to paying rates that Glasgow cant match So Edinburgh couldn't afford Worall and Glasgow couldn't afford Fisher. Seems everything's about even! Thats the story of Fishers career (excessive demands). Good for him, what mugs works for less than they can?! Edited December 15, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 If you mean every "good" rider will ride every track well, to paraphrase Don Corleone if history (of speedway) has taught us anything... it is that not all riders can ride all tracks well! There will always be tracks that some riders are suited to better than others and conversely some tracks that are bogey tracks for some riders, even high average ones. By and large you're right of course, most will the majority of the time, but.... Example Stoney and Exeter. If you mean every "good" rider will ride every track well, to paraphrase Don Corleone if history (of speedway) has taught us anything... it is that not all riders can ride all tracks well! There will always be tracks that some riders are suited to better than others and conversely some tracks that are bogey tracks for some riders, even high average ones. By and large you're right of course, most will the majority of the time, but.... Example Stoney and Exeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Re Fisher i think he will do a good job as 3rd heat leader ,even allowing he was 3rd choice after Ritchie W and Josh G who decided to go elsewhere,I believe Glasgow contacted Fisher early on but his demands were to excesive. Now they have the fans trust Edinburgh can go back to paying rates that Glasgow cant match LOL @ the last sentence. Example Stoney and Exeter. Newport in the old days and Exeter did seem to have a reputation lol. + Eastville. Edited December 14, 2015 by Dekker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 So Glasgow couldn't afford Fisher and Glasgow couldn't afford Fisher. Seems everything's about even!Good for him, what mugs works for less than they can?!Have to Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchlad Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Re Fisher i think he will do a good job as 3rd heat leader ,even allowing he was 3rd choice after Ritchie W and Josh G who decided to go elsewhere,I believe Glasgow contacted Fisher early on but his demands were to excesive. Now they have the fans trust Edinburgh can go back to paying rates that Glasgow cant match I right, both Richie and Scrableman went for bigger signing on fees.....or should I say double the signing on fees ....and BIG points money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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