TheScotsman Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Yes he is. You had a top 3 of Masters Wolbert and Cook You have a top 3 of Masters Wolbert and Fisher. Irrelevent of what number they ride he has replaced Cook Masters will not score what Cook did Wolbert will not score what Masters did Fisher will not score what Wolbert did. I admit you had to lose points but you have lost the leagues best number 1 and the leagues best second string. Going to be very very tough to replace 20 points a meeting with Fisher and whoever else is signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Yes he is. You had a top 3 of Masters Wolbert and Cook You have a top 3 of Masters Wolbert and Fisher. Irrelevent of what number they ride he has replaced Cook Masters will not score what Cook did Wolbert will not score what Masters did Fisher will not score what Wolbert did. I admit you had to lose points but you have lost the leagues best number 1 and the leagues best second string. Going to be very very tough to replace 20 points a meeting with Fisher and whoever else is signed We have won the league without Cook before i'm pretty sure we are more than capable of doing it again. Our promotion aren't stupid they no how to build winning teams. They will only sign riders that fit into the way we do things and riders that they feel will increase their average over the season. Yes we are losing Cook and Sedgmen but just because we are replacing them like for like as such doesn't mean we aren't going to make them points up in other places of the team. I fully expect Erik and Max to put at least a point on their starting averages at least, the Fish back at his rightful home were he is happy can only mean good things and I think he will be finish the season with a average of just over 8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Further east than that. Musselburgh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spt82 Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Yes he is. You had a top 3 of Masters Wolbert and Cook You have a top 3 of Masters Wolbert and Fisher. Irrelevent of what number they ride he has replaced Cook Masters will not score what Cook did Wolbert will not score what Masters did Fisher will not score what Wolbert did. I admit you had to lose points but you have lost the leagues best number 1 and the leagues best second string. Going to be very very tough to replace 20 points a meeting with Fisher and whoever else is signed I love how you are so concerned about how Edinburgh are going to do without Cook, you're absolutely obsessed, go and find something else to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 I love how you are so concerned about how Edinburgh are going to do without Cook, you're absolutely obsessed, go and find something else to worry about.try having a discussion about it rather than give daft statements. I post on a lot of teams threads and I'm discussing that Edinburgh might find it harder. Either you have no intellect to respond or you are incapable of debating. We have won the league without Cook before i'm pretty sure we are more than capable of doing it again. Our promotion aren't stupid they no how to build winning teams. They will only sign riders that fit into the way we do things and riders that they feel will increase their average over the season. Yes we are losing Cook and Sedgmen but just because we are replacing them like for like as such doesn't mean we aren't going to make them points up in other places of the team. I fully expect Erik and Max to put at least a point on their starting averages at least, the Fish back at his rightful home were he is happy can only mean good things and I think he will be finish the season with a average of just over 8. thank you for a perfectly reasoned response which shows that some Edinburgh fans are capable of giving a proper answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Edinburgh to sweep the board and win everything next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spt82 Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) try having a discussion about it rather than give daft statements. I post on a lot of teams threads and I'm discussing that Edinburgh might find it harder. Either you have no intellect to respond or you are incapable of debating. thank you for a perfectly reasoned response which shows that some Edinburgh fans are capable of giving a proper answer Ok then, if Cook had stayed then you probably have to lose Sam, and therefore likely also end up with a 4 point rider in your top 5, the point you seem to be missing is that after a successful season Edinburgh were well over the limit, so to get back under it's pretty obvious you are going to have be to and will look a weaker team than what finished last season. As for Sam not scoring what Craig did, he managed to for most of the first half of last season, so that doesn't concern me, I also think Fisher being back in an environment he enjoys can quite easily match what Wölbert did last season. I'm personally happy with our team so far, yes we'll miss Cookie and Sedgy but life goes on. Edited December 12, 2015 by spt82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) I'll have to dig out the 5-0 video with fish's celebrations. have you got the one from workington when he gave up rode on to centre green when workington rider was pushing bike home and was behind him Edited December 12, 2015 by scarra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 have you got the one from workington when he gave up rode on to centre green when workington rider was pushing bike home and was behind him nope but not surprised... it's all part of the package. Tough season ahead Will the Monarchs achieve what we have in the last 2 years, that's unlikely as we beat the odds by repeating. But tough i don't think so. Should at least make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenway Bleachers Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Having won the Quad in 2014 then last season's treble of course 2016 looks harder because we have to weaken to get to 42.5 and in theory give everyone a chance to catch up. That's the way the sport is structured. Fisher is not directly replacing Cook because no one can and he would not be expected to. Sam wears 1 for a good reason and will be fine,especially at home. Sedgy can't be replaced because he was a heatleader in disguise and we are only allowed 3. Still Erik and Max should improve,Sam and Ryan have some fractions to add and we will be competitive again. Let battle commence......maybe this season Gavan Danny Olympic might win races at our place? Or maybe not.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 I think there no doubt Edinburgh will be there or thereabouts. Fisher should be a decent signing as a no3. Im expecting a 'rabbit out of the hat' type signing for the last place. How much improvement from Riss and Clegg could decide if the team is really successful IMO. I think both are on the up its just how quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Edinburgh have got a strong looking side, and as many of the Edinburgh fans have already stated, they have a home advantage which should allow Fisher to increase his average - IF he stays on. However, anyone that says it isn't a weaker team than last year is on drugs. On paper Glasgow, Sheffield and Newcastle all look stronger, surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 No worries at all about the 5 named so far. The keys will be the 3 pointer and the final team member. Remember all 5 are championship winners!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Well one thing for sure is that the races between Fisher and Barker when the two meet are going to be entertainment. Love em or not those two have to be the maddest but most entertaining to watch imo, they would be the two at the top of my list as riders you are most likely to pay to watch regularly. Both clubs now have the type of rider likely to appeal to first timers and get them back through the gate, can only be good for Scottish speedway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Good call Lioness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Edinburgh look good as usual, Glasgow will be up there, Newcastle look very good, dont understand anyone who rates Ipswich they look beyond average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romans lovechild Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Yes he is. You had a top 3 of Masters Wolbert and Cook You have a top 3 of Masters Wolbert and Fisher. Irrelevent of what number they ride he has replaced Cook Masters will not score what Cook did Wolbert will not score what Masters did Fisher will not score what Wolbert did. I admit you had to lose points but you have lost the leagues best number 1 and the leagues best second string. Going to be very very tough to replace 20 points a meeting with Fisher and whoever else is signed and I thought simon stead was the leagues best number 1, according to the averages, cookie could guest for simon, but simon couldn't guest for cookie, point proven. there are a lot of pl teams you could make a title case for,they all look of similar strength apart from about 3 teams, this years basement club redcar could look a hot bet if they get the right guy in as last member, monarchs for the play offs in my book.(and I tipped you guys to win it this year) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 There is no rider who could replace Cookie, either ability wise or due to points restrictions. If BV had chose Saturday as race night I could have seen myself heading there some Saturdays. Re Ryan, at 32 can he put a couple of points on his average? It's a big ask but surely Riss and Clegg should make great strides. I have thought all along that the 3 pointer and the 6 pointer riders will be the crucial signings. A Barker, Worrall, Fisher, Masters race? Interesting to say the least! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Ok then, if Cook had stayed then you probably have to lose Sam, and therefore likely also end up with a 4 point rider in your top 5, the point you seem to be missing is that after a successful season Edinburgh were well over the limit, so to get back under it's pretty obvious you are going to have be to and will look a weaker team than what finished last season. As for Sam not scoring what Craig did, he managed to for most of the first half of last season, so that doesn't concern me, I also think Fisher being back in an environment he enjoys can quite easily match what Wölbert did last season. I'm personally happy with our team so far, yes we'll miss Cookie and Sedgy but life goes on. i know you had to lose points thats the nature of the sport and a successful side. My point is that you are replacing Cook/Sedgman (20 points a meeting i would guess) with Fisher/6 pointer , which in my view you will do well to get 15 points a meeting out of That must mean you are a lot weaker and all i was asking is are you worried about your chances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 i know you had to lose points thats the nature of the sport and a successful side. My point is that you are replacing Cook/Sedgman (20 points a meeting i would guess) with Fisher/6 pointer , which in my view you will do well to get 15 points a meeting out of That must mean you are a lot weaker and all i was asking is are you worried about your chances it could just mean they win 50-40 rather than 55-35.Still 3 points and possibly more entertaining.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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