gazzac Posted May 2, 2016 Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 Gazzac it used to be three home and three away but it was felt that was too long with the way the fixtures were. Some teams weren't getting new averages on that basis until half way or more into the season. It was changed a couple of years ago and has obviously reduced the time a rider can spend at reserve (having seven rides if they are scoring well) if they are outscoring their team mates. Just shows whatever way it's done can never be perfect, I suppose Eastie had such a conveyor belt of good reserves last year never gave it much thought on when the averages were done as it had little effect on the team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Gazzac it used to be three home and three away but it was felt that was too long with the way the fixtures were. Some teams weren't getting new averages on that basis until half way or more into the season. It was changed a couple of years ago and has obviously reduced the time a rider can spend at reserve (having seven rides if they are scoring well) if they are outscoring their team mates. I would not think anyone would have a problem with that. The issue is why are they not using rolling averages for riders who already have an average. How can you replace history developed over 20 or 30 matches with just the latest 4? Seems bound to lead to team manipulation. Congratulations to the Young Eagles. Tom Brennan won the 500cc yesterday and Nathan Ablitt won the 150cc in the British Youth Championship 2nd round.. A nice double. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Any news on Adam Ellis took a serious soil sample at Monmore Green last night from all accounts !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrscambelt Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Congratulations to the Young Eagles. Tom Brennan won the 500cc yesterday and Nathan Ablitt won the 150cc in the British Youth Championship 2nd round.. A nice double. Well done to both sussex Lads and a very impressive times by Tom Brennan faster then some of the PL races, i cant wait to see him race later in the year. Also to Nathan Ablitt i was told he was a few steps above the other riders, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 I would not think anyone would have a problem with that. The issue is why are they not using rolling averages for riders who already have an average. How can you replace history developed over 20 or 30 matches with just the latest 4? Seems bound to lead to team manipulation. Congratulations to the Young Eagles. Tom Brennan won the 500cc yesterday and Nathan Ablitt won the 150cc in the British Youth Championship 2nd round.. A nice double. Due to the nature of the league, using rolling averages can be manipulated too because riders improve much faster when they're new to the sport. Take Mildenhall as an example with Bowtell, Isle of Wight with Dugard or Birmingham with Hume. Both improved massively at the end of last season and has nearly scored a maximum already this season. Yet his rolling average would still include his relatively poor scores at the start and middle of last season. So he would likely drop to reserve, as his average isn't going up as much as it should do as the assessed 3.00 reserve gets a new average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex bulldog Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Any news on Adam Ellis took a serious soil sample at Monmore Green last night from all accounts !! Suspected dislocated shoulder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted May 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Suspected dislocated shoulder Hopefully it's not broken or anything.... Still will knock his confidence good thing he's in a league where he can win to get confidence back..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Hopefully it's not broken or anything.... Still will knock his confidence good thing he's in a league where he can win to get confidence back..... Don't!! We'll have another 10 pages of should he or shouldn't he be here if your not careful. Edited May 3, 2016 by gazzac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted May 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Don't!! We'll have another 10 pages of should he or shouldn't he be here if your not careful. Oops sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Hope as you say there's nothing too serious wherever he's riding. Assuming with a dislocated shoulder he won't be riding Saturday, but I assume we can have basically any guest with the astute signing of a high points average No 1 ? Oh I've just done an Al3x200! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Hope as you say there's nothing too serious wherever he's riding. Assuming with a dislocated shoulder he won't be riding Saturday, but I assume we can have basically any guest with the astute signing of a high points average No 1 ? Oh I've just done an Al3x200! I'd go with the "Next Big Thing" and lie about Tom Brennan's age. Nobody'll notice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Hope as you say there's nothing too serious wherever he's riding. Assuming with a dislocated shoulder he won't be riding Saturday, but I assume we can have basically any guest with the astute signing of a high points average No 1 ? Oh I've just done an Al3x200! Any EL rider up to an eight point average 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Or maybe just wait and see if it's Adam ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Or maybe just wait and see if it's Adam ? Really hope he will be fit for Saturday,just assumed a dislocated shoulder would put him out for at least a week or so . Never underestimate a speedway rider I suppose! Edited May 3, 2016 by gazzac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Really hope he will be fit for Saturday,just assumed a dislocated shoulder would put him out for at least a week or so . Never underestimate a speedway rider I suppose! I've done it 5x over the years, he's made of strong stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Didn't Charles wright dislocate his shoulder the other night and still completed the meeting. Tough as well as nuts these Speedway riders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted May 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Might also have something to do if Poole will let him if he doesn't ride? As they are the club with preference and obviously more importance being EL they might not want him to ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 A one armed Adam Ellis will score more than the Eagles reserves .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrscambelt Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 A one armed Adam Ellis will score more than the Eagles reserves .. Have to say you may be right but the lucky has got to change soon for the Eagles. i guess thats going to be about July time when its Brennans Birthday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee jay Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Have to say you may be right but the lucky has got to change soon for the Eagles. i guess thats going to be about July time when its Brennans Birthday and the spiller bros have finished their exams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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