Ben91 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 You plainly have not read properly or understood a word I have said. It had nothing to do with disadvantaging Plymouth or their rescue bid. I made the point clearly that if a rider wished to double up PL & NL then provided he met the qualifying criteria of both Leagues he should not be stopped merely because of the order of signing if he wanted to. That has absolutely no inference that he should ride for NL to the exclusion of PL be it Plymouth or anyone else and in case you are also unaware of it, in double up situations where their is a fixture clash PL get priority anyway. In this particular case it may well be that Neilsen has not even been approached or that he has no desire to ride NL we don't know . I was looking at possible alternatives in a shrinking rider pool and highlighting that the rule was to say the least irrational. I don't know where the believe that Plymouth's rescue bid is being undermined or that three riders are being poached by greedy clubs comes from, that is also irrational and can only be a figment of your imagination. This appears to be just another attempt to deride Eastbourne and their supporters. I had hoped that we had been rid of this sort of behaviour when we left the EL but apparently not. That's the exact point though, he doesn't. He signed for a PL team, therefore he is ineligible to ride NL because his PL average is too high. If he had signed for a NL team initially and picked up a PL place during the season that is allowed, the rule has been changed to give riders who miss out on the PL in the first instance, like Ash Morris, a chance to get PL racing should it arise. Bear in mind that Eastbourne didn't need to make any changes at all, all they have done is replace Hopwood with Perks now. The season has started and Stefan is in a declared PL one-to-seven, Plymouth were put on ice and have been saved so at no point could he have signed for a NL club unless Plymouth had been unable to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) That's the exact point though, he doesn't. He signed for a PL team, therefore he is ineligible to ride NL because his PL average is too high. If he had signed for a NL team initially and picked up a PL place during the season that is allowed, the rule has been changed to give riders who miss out on the PL in the first instance, like Ash Morris, a chance to get PL racing should it arise. Bear in mind that Eastbourne didn't need to make any changes at all, all they have done is replace Hopwood with Perks now. The season has started and Stefan is in a declared PL one-to-seven, Plymouth were put on ice and have been saved so at no point could he have signed for a NL club unless Plymouth had been unable to continue. I think you have also missed the point the Plymouth had closed which means the riders have no contract to any club and would have been out of work so it ment that he could have signed for an NL team then a PL team but as we are all aware now that they are up and running. Good news for Plymouth and bad Luck for Eastbourne, but it ment that Ben had to go which has worked out well for Ben but if it all worked out would have been better for the club so i guess thats the reason they moved that direction thinking that they could get a replacement for the unlucky Hughes. But again we are not 100% sure thats what they are doing? Hopwood was not at his best but still a long season but i have a little bit of faith in the management that something we have all missed and they are just waiting for the correct window to open but i think we have more chance of winning the lottery Edited April 6, 2016 by catinthehat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 I think you have also missed the point the Plymouth had closed which means the riders have no contract to any club and would have been out of work so it ment that he could have signed for an NL team then a PL team but as we are all aware now that they are up and running. Good news for Plymouth and bad Luck for Eastbourne, but it ment that Ben had to go which has worked out well for Ben but if it all worked out would have been better for the club so i guess thats the reason they moved that direction thinking that they could get a replacement for the unlucky Hughes. But again we are not 100% sure thats what they are doing? Hopwood was not at his best but still a long season but i have a little bit of faith in the management that something we have all missed and they are just waiting for the correct window to open but i think we have more chance of winning the lottery The BSPA had put them on ice in the hope that they could be rescued and they were. He was and is still in the declared Plymouth 1-7 as far as the rules are concerned. Has it worked out well for Hopwood? He'll likely be out of a job again once Branford comes back to the UK, more like making the best of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Well lets see if Rye keep Ben and Rob as i think they will be better of that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted April 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 The Argus cat was made redundant years ago. Been terrible cutbacks in the local Press. Hahaha that's made me laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I see ben had his first match last night not a bad night for him lucky in heat 15 with the miss fortune of whats his name, but at least Ben went on to win it, any news on whats going on in the world of team building a bit like lego all little bricks ( and i mean bricks) all the same colours yellow and blue ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Eb are gold and blue this year cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 6pm part of the mystery will be solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Paul hurry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Austin Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I think you have also missed the point the Plymouth had closed which means the riders have no contract to any club and would have been out of work so it ment that he could have signed for an NL team then a PL team but as we are all aware now that they are up and running. Good news for Plymouth and bad Luck for Eastbourne, but it ment that Ben had to go which has worked out well for Ben but if it all worked out would have been better for the club so i guess thats the reason they moved that direction thinking that they could get a replacement for the unlucky Hughes. But again we are not 100% sure thats what they are doing? Hopwood was not at his best but still a long season but i have a little bit of faith in the management that something we have all missed and they are just waiting for the correct window to open but i think we have more chance of winning the lottery Pricless lmao 'but it ment that Ben had to go which has worked out well for Ben' ' 'Plymouth had closed which means the riders have no contract to any club' You cudn't make it up lmao ... but you clearly do You have no idea what youre talking about man so just wait & see, same to Alex whatever he is this weak and hunters jeez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Or not now apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Does seem a little odd that you have Dan Greenwood booked as a guest for Saturday and are making an announcement today? Perhaps its a swap for Andrews? Definitely get the feeling it will have a slight shock factor to it? Edited April 7, 2016 by Sings4Kings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Does seem a little odd that you have Dan Greenwood booked as a guest for Saturday and are making an announcement today? Perhaps its a swap for Andrews? Definitely get the feeling it will have a slight shock factor to it? Maybe he can't make it for Saturday..... Maybe he is at a wedding in Australia.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 You could bring in Owen and Dan Spiller for Hughes and Andrews, then you'd have a stronger side than you started the season with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 You could bring in Owen and Dan Spiller for Hughes and Andrews, then you'd have a stronger side than you started the season with. Marc seemed happy enough spannering for BWD on Sunday. It'll all get sorted out after the 18th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Branford to Eastbourne then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Branford to Eastbourne then he wouldn't fit on second thoughts? With a decent rider for Andrews Edited April 7, 2016 by Al3x200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) he wouldn't fit on second thoughts? With a decent rider for Andrews Unless my maths are wrong doesn't it leave us about 4.7 to play with for a replacement for Andrews with the saving we made replacing Hopwood with Perks and .25 we were under at the start of the season? Whether we can find a decent rider to fit in at 2 for that amount I'm not sure. Edited April 8, 2016 by gazzac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Unless my maths are wrong doesn't it leave us about 4.7 to play with for a replacement for Andrews with the saving we made replacing Hopwood with Perks and .25 we were under at the start of the season? I think we have 14.96 or there shouts to play with Branford is 10.14 so I think 4.8? Trouble is who is about to come in on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Looks like 51 minutes until we find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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